Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Okay, you're missing a word, maybe noun & some adverbs there. Coming to this - sure, now again how do you quantify that? Even if you take the worst case number of 10% provided by union govt. That cannot account for other 90% of pollution. There are other underline issues. Stubble burning is insignificant Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Khota said: Go look at supreme court proceedings. The number I have is fact based. The number you have is one pulled from where sun dont shine no more. If you lack the basic mental capacity to grasp that statistics can be cherrypicked and massaged to support any argument, then I have nothing to say to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, sandeep said: If you lack the basic mental capacity to grasp that statistics can be cherrypicked and massaged to support any argument, then I have nothing to say to you. You have nothing to say is because you truly have nothing to say. The maximum worst case contribution of 10% was given by the union govt. Not the farmers. The problem here is simple Your hate of farmers is keeping you blibd. sandeep and Under_Score 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Khota said: Let us take Japan. Healthcare yes major industry no. There in BHEL or BEML equivalent. All done by private entities. You sound very clueless Dude, Canada, Scandinavia our countries are built on public system. - our healthcare and education systems are have been built on that.i am not even going onto old age security, workers comp, workplace insurance etc. I don't know about Indian system in depth at all but saying public system doesn't work is just the height of stupidity. I have no idea what BHEL and BEML are. Public sector and gov't entities are the basis of what a country builds upon. For profit companies, do not engage in public programs and other systemic programs. I won't engage on this because that's basic economics. There isn't any logic in what you're saying - if you feel correct that's fine Edited November 19, 2021 by Try_Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Try_Ball said: Dude, Canada, Scandinavia our countries are built on public system. - our healthcare and education systems are have been built on that. I don't knowabout Indian system in depth at all but saying public system doesn't work is just the height of stupidity. I have no idea what is BHEL and BEML are. Public sector pt gov't entities are the basis of what a country builds upon. For profit companies, do not engage in public programs and other systemic programs. I won't engage on this because that's basic economics. There isn't any logic in what you're saying - if you feel correct that's fine Education and healthcare in Canada is done by govt. Not the day to day industrial stuff. Also go try getting a surgery in Canada. Odds are wait would run in months.while at it see how heavily is farming subsidized in canada Since you dont live in India quit posing as a. Expert regarding what goes on there. sandeep and Under_Score 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Khota said: You have nothing to say is because you truly have nothing to say. The maximum worst case contribution of 10% was given by the union govt. Not the farmers. The problem here is simple Your hate of farmers is keeping you blibd. so if I disagree with you, I supposedly "hate" farmers. I think we need some special education to help you. Get well soon. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Khota said: Education and healthcare in Canada is done by govt. Not the day to day industrial stuff. Also go try getting a surgery in Canada. Odds are wait would run in months.while at it see how heavily is farming subsidized in canada Since you dont live in India quit posing as a. Expert regarding what goes on there. As a Canadian, i can say you couldn't be further from the fact about our healthcare system. Don't comment on things you haven't experienced or live in. I am no expert In any Indian system and I made that quite clear. I am not saying anything on the efficacy and efficiency of the public system in India. I am debating on the public system in itself and it definitely works! Like I said, you don't have agree to my opinion and that's fine. My goal isn't to convince you in any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, sandeep said: so if I disagree with you, I supposedly "hate" farmers. I think we need some special education to help you. Get well soon. I feel your pain. It is difficult for you to adjust to the fact that BJP did the morally correct thing sandeep and Under_Score 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Try_Ball said: As a Canadian, i can say you couldn't be further from the fact about our healthcare system. Don't comment on things you haven't experienced or live in. I am no expert In any Indian system and I made that quite clear. I am not saying anything on the efficacy and efficiency of the public system in India. I am debating on the public system in itself and it definitely works! Like I said, you don't have agree to my opinion and that's fine. My goal isn't to convince you in any way That is true that I don't know about Canadian system. All I do know that was the only developed country begging Modi for vaccine. You can always correct me if I am wrong about your dysfunctional health care system. sandeep and Under_Score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Khota said: I feel your pain. It is difficult for you to adjust to the fact that BJP did the morally correct thing I have no dog in this fight. I am a thousand miles away. All I wish to see is progress for all of India. But fools like you live in the delusion that those who disagree with you are the "enemy" who "hate" farmers. All you are doing is demonstrating the levels of your 'intellect'. Try_Ball, LordPrabhzy, Clarke and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Khota said: That is true that I don't know about Canadian system. All I do know that was the only developed country begging Modi for vaccine. You can always correct me if I am wrong about your dysfunctional health care system. Yes Canada did ask for help from India for vaccines and our manufacturing system doesn't represent our healthcare system. From what I've seen from you is that you argue on everything with everyone and I don't get paid to correct you. Just a food for thought, how much would be an inpatient stay in a quality hospital in India and how much on average would you pay for that? And compare that to how much a Canadian pay? As you know everything about everywhere, you'd know the answer to that. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Try_Ball said: Yes Canada did ask for help from India for vaccines and our manufacturing system doesn't represent our healthcare system. From what I've seen from you is that you argue on everything with everyone and I don't get paid to correct you. Just a food for thought, how much would be an inpatient stay in a quality hospital in India and how much on average would you pay for that? And compare that to how much a Canadian pay? As you know everything about everywhere, you'd know the answer to that. Canadian health care is better than Indian. I know it too. If that is what you are proud of so be it. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, sandeep said: I have no dog in this fight. I am a thousand miles away. All I wish to see is progress for all of India. But fools like you live in the delusion that those who disagree with you are the "enemy" who "hate" farmers. All you are doing is demonstrating the levels of your 'intellect'. Showing no empathy for poor farmers who are committing suicide as we speak tells me that you multiple dogs in this fight. Under_Score and sandeep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Khota said: Showing no empathy for poor farmers who are committing suicide as we speak tells me that you multiple dogs in this fight. Which farmers? The ones who cut up that dude with a sword and let him bleed to death? And btw, over the last decade, most if not all advocacy groups who support farmers have been begging for reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, sandeep said: Which farmers? The ones who cut up that dude with a sword and let him bleed to death? And btw, over the last decade, most if not all advocacy groups who support farmers have been begging for reform. No one has sympathy for murders. But you so conveniently forgot to mentioned a minister of the state is involved in murder of so many farmers. Minimum you can do for the decorum of ICF is quit lying and saying you don't have any dog in this fight. sandeep and Under_Score 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Khota said: Canadian health care is better than Indian. I know it too. If that is what you are proud of so be it. I am proud of it. But I had an opinion on the public system around the world and what its possibilities are and how well it can do. You may think public system is utterly bad and that's fine too. I am not looking for you agree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Try_Ball said: I am proud of it. But I had an opinion on the public system around the world and what its possibilities are and how well it can do. You may think public system is utterly bad and that's fine too. I am not looking for you agree with me So your experience is based on canadian system where people dont take bribes and try to do the right thing It is totally different in India Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, sandeep said: I have no dog in this fight. I am a thousand miles away. All I wish to see is progress for all of India. But fools like you live in the delusion that those who disagree with you are the "enemy" who "hate" farmers. All you are doing is demonstrating the levels of your 'intellect'. I'm in the same position as you man, I can relate. Heck I literally have no stakeholder in any of this issue but from a cometly neutral perspective, I can see how polarized people are based on their personal beliefs and anything contrary to that cannot be handled.if every street is India has people who are experts on everything and quite stubborn in their beliefs then no wonder, nothing can be changed in there sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Khota said: So your experience is based on canadian system where people dont take bribes and try to do the right thing It is totally different in India Ofcourse. So public system does work well and should be improved upon rather than asking it to be scrapped. If theres a deficiency In a system it needs to be built upon better sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Khota said: No one has sympathy for murders. But you so conveniently forgot to mentioned a minister of the state is involved in murder of so many farmers. Minimum you can do for the decorum of ICF is quit lying and saying you don't have any dog in this fight. so now I am 'protecting evil politicians'. what else you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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