speedheat Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Keep the discussion to election machinery . Conjectures don’t Commiserations bro. You must be crying a river today Under_Score and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Because he is getting salary for caring. Stop voting for him, salary will stop. Beside if people dont want farm bill then so be it, who cares about progress. Only time we give a sh-t about India is when some joker pakistani ministers call a t20 win islam ke jeet. coffee_rules, raki05 and Chakdephatte 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: I guess India will be able to manage good economic growth and we will see BJP in power for another term. If there is real growth he will easily win. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Khota said: It was more like govt. passing something without consensus building. But is consensus building a necessity in any democratic country? If a government wants to pass a bill or a legislature and they invite all the relevant stakeholders to come and debate on it or find a majority/consensus on it, would it always be achieved ? If it doesn't get achieved, should that mean that it shouldn't be implemented? This would be an ideal situation where two parties are working on the same goals with mutually exclusive repercussions but if it's a linked issue where the outcome of a certain law or legislation is "deemed" to be beneficial for a country - Is consensus an aboslute necessity ? I don't see that as being practical or even possible. For example - If govt decides to increase tuition fee or University fee for students by 10% a year, ofcourse the student's wouldn't be happy with that and wouldn't reach a consensus but does that mean that's a wrong decision to implement the hike in fee? Or If a govt let's say decides to increase taxes on major corporations within a country but they get opposed by the major companies and there isn't a consenses - then should the Administration not employ those changes ? Clarke and Chakdephatte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, speedheat said: Commiserations bro. You must be crying a river today Its sad if you cant see reason for crying coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, jf1gp_1 said: Stop voting for him, salary will stop. Beside if people dont want farm bill then so be it, who cares about progress. Only time we give a sh-t about India is when some joker pakistani ministers call a t20 win islam ke jeet. Dont listen to those morons. The lesson for us is to select a strong team. F@#k kohli coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, speedheat said: @Trichromatic @Cricketics please unban @Under_Score it's time to celebrate He was banned for religious insults. I don't think this decision will be changed for now. Under_Score, speedheat and coffee_rules 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Khota said: Nobody cursed the entire govt. It was few laws. You missed some gems for sure. and you didn't definitely see the bigger picture. The govt was getting cursed quite globally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I wish he had done the same when he ordered demonetization.. f*** up the economy for a decade for us. Western UP equation probably is the main reason... Phat rhi hai Under_Score and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Khota said: Masses are not smart. He is the PM of entire nation so he has to care whether they vote for him or not. You are wrong he is a politician who needs vote to stay. If today our janta starts a mass movement to allow honor killing, i am willing to bet it will be back in 5yrs. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Try_Ball said: But is consensus building a necessity in any democratic country? If a government wants to pass a bill or a legislature and they invite all the relevant stakeholders to come and debate on it or find a majority/consensus on it, would it always be achieved ? If it doesn't get achieved, should that mean that it shouldn't be implemented? This would be an ideal situation where two parties are working on the same goals with mutually exclusive repercussions but if it's a linked issue where the outcome of a certain law or legislation is "deemed" to be beneficial for a country - Is consensus an aboslute necessity ? I don't see that as being practical or even possible. For example - If govt decides to increase tuition fee or University fee for students by 10% a year, ofcourse the student's wouldn't be happy with that and wouldn't reach a consensus but does that mean that's a wrong decision to implement the hike in fee? Or If a govt let's say decides to increase taxes on major corporations within a country but they get opposed by the major companies and there isn't a consenses - then should the Administration not employ those changes ? You are trying to manipulate half the Indian economy. You need some consensus. Just like 370. Absolutely the right thing to do and there was consensus. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, jf1gp_1 said: Its sad if you cant see reason for crying Ohh please.. these people insulted and mocked hardworking,blood dripping farmers... I am in no mood to show sympathies. Under_Score and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Try_Ball said: You missed some gems for sure. and you didn't definitely see the bigger picture. The govt was getting cursed quite globally Farming always draws attention. Was the govt. Right in the long term. Yes they were. But farming is subsidized everywhere. It has to be done gradually. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: You are wrong he is a politician who needs vote to stay. If today our janta starts a mass movement to allow honor killing, i am willing to bet it will be back in 5yrs. No it will not be. India is lot smarter than that. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Blackmail works jf1gp_1, Lone Wolf, Under_Score and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Blackmail works Loving it. Cry more please Vancouver, Under_Score and coffee_rules 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Blackmail works Blackmail never works. Common sense works. It worked here. speedheat, Under_Score and coffee_rules 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 in the next week shaheen bagh type nonsense is again going to come up coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Khota said: You are trying to manipulate half the Indian economy. You need some consensus. Just like 370. Absolutely the right thing to do and there was consensus. I am sure there would have been some degree of consensus - when you have a country of the size of India with a billion perspectives -how can you really take everybody on board? It isn't always the magnitude for example if a country let's say impose conscription into Army - Turkey, France , Sweden many have it. Now a law like that affects the whole population of the country - everyone is a stakeholder and if a consensus is tried to be built around that - you'd never get people supporting that as a practice as you'd have to send your child away whether you like it or not but countries do enforce these laws. even the US does not really build consensus over things like Gun Laws or Border Wall etc. or backing away from the Paris agreement . coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, speedheat said: Commiserations bro. You must be crying a river today Yes, it hurts, but you live in India where Khalistanis rule roost and stubble burners choke the capital, you are celebrating with a Enjoy your state in MVA speedheat and Under_Score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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