LordPrabhzy Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 hours ago, New guy said: So halal and pork ban to please Extremist/Fanatic muslims. Banning beef to please hindu fanatics Religious mania completely taking over and dictating what others eat. What a banana nation we are becoming Corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, New guy said: Nope they are not. It's been made illegal by right wing fanatics. India is a huge diverse country and hinduism itself is diverse and has many sects it’s in the constitution and it is left to states to enforce it. Gandhi ji is also a RW fanatic for you? No sect of Hinduism says it s ok to slaughter Cows. you have been fed some Liberal cool-aid Quote Fundamentslists are trying to hijack it and make it a copy of other fundamentalist religions in the world just to retain political power. So far they have been succeeding All through History Cows are worshipped in Hinduism. Cow slaughter was punishable by death in some kingdoms. Islamic invaders would force feed cow meat to Hindus and they would never be able to convert back as they would get ostracized from the community, goHatya is one of the worst paap beyond redemption Gandhi and other such Hindus wanted to ban cow slaughter all over India, but has to bow down to Nehru and Commies and of course Muslims. So, the article in the Constitution gives states power to enforce ban of cow slaughter. It is not a win. A lot of Hindus eat meat , but they don’t have to eat Halal. Some Sikh sects believe they have to eat Jhatka only. This is not a Fundamentalists issue. It is for most Hindus. Try serving Horse meat in US or Dog meat anywhere in the west, the majority decides such practices. Only in India, it is a minority issue Quote One of the most ancient, diverse, peaceful and great religion is being hijacked by fundamentalist and being made into a copy of intolerant abhramic religions. Yeah right. Show me in history where Hindus would eat Cow meat. Don’t give some Marxist historian account. Which they distorted since a few hundred years Edited November 20, 2021 by coffee_rules Suhaan and AuxiliA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 Some environmentalists in the west have caught on this news copied below, but in India , because it is rejected and religiously against eating beef by the majority, libtards and Islamists have an objection on cow slaughter ban. Dogs are considered family by some people, eating dog meat is preposterous. Can’t they feel the same for Hindustan? No, ours is a tolerant community that allows all practices. We are expected to cow down (pun intended) to all practices even though our beliefs are against it. Somebody brings in Meghalaya and the NE. They are beef eaters and cow is not sacred as the majority are either converted Christianis or subjugated as indigenous, so the state has the right. So in any case it is up to the majority Govt in the state to set the rule on sensitive religious practices. Libs want one size fits all egalitarian solution , but ignores the same for Islamic countries over pork or dog meat in western countries “Beef production is particularly harmful to the planet; it requires 160 times more land and produces 11 times more greenhouse gases than staple plant-based foods such as potatoes, wheat, and rice. For every kilogram of beef produced, the equivalent of 36 kilograms of CO2 is released into the atmosphere.” AuxiliA and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Realist Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Can't play cricket unless regularly eating bacon and sausages. Ask Eng as that's why they can play at high SR in limited over cricket and smoke 6s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 12 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Halal enforced on all is conveniently ignored in your analysis, classic monkey balancing . If the report is taken on its face value By the same logic, isnt beef banned even for Muslim cricketers if the report is to be taken at face value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I just dont get how this rule makes any sense. Did anyone except the god awful opindia report this? Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 8 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: Corrected He was right because 99% of them are fanatics, so, didn't need to write fanatics for them. They are being made fanatics as soon as they are born. Lord, Chakdephatte and Suhaan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: By the same logic, isnt beef banned even for Muslim cricketers if the report is to be taken at face value? Doesn't make sense, Beef (cow meat) eating is not part of Islam, they choose to eat it. Ban doesn't mean much to them But Halal is internal and part of religious cbelief of Islam. Why should non-Muslims be forced to follow a particularly Muslim custom? if the report is to be taken at face value, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: I just dont get how this rule makes any sense. Did anyone except the god awful opindia report this? They just picked up a story from Sports Tak? Why should opIndia be god awful? Because they usually hit the nail on the head and expose the hypocrisy of libtards? Chakdephatte and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 13 hours ago, New guy said: So halal and pork ban to please muslims. Banning beef to please hindu fanatics Religious mania completely taking over and dictating what others eat. What a banana nation we are becoming The future of india is theocratic. its either dharmic or abrahamic. Choose a side now. Do not be a fence sitter by spouting out irritating liberal lines. You are doing nothing except looking comical to ICF ers Suhaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 No credible source and hitjob aimed at evoking religious discussion. Successful so far considering there is a thread on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: No credible source and hitjob aimed at evoking religious discussion. Successful so far considering there is a thread on this topic. If BCCI or Sports Tak retracts the story, you mod can close the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dery Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Another masterstroke by Modi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Doesn't make sense, Beef (cow meat) eating is not part of Islam, they choose to eat it. Ban doesn't mean much to them But Halal is internal and part of religious cbelief of Islam. Why should non-Muslims be forced to follow a particularly Muslim custom? if the report is to be taken at face value, Same way eating meat is not obligatory for hindus. They choose to eat it. So doesnt matter if its halal or not. Rules are reduntant axcording to your logic. Everyone goes home happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Same way eating meat is not obligatory for hindus. They choose to eat it. So doesnt matter if its halal or not. Rules are reduntant axcording to your logic. Everyone goes home happy. Heard of a religion called Sikhism ? Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Clarke said: Heard of a religion called Sikhism ? I am just mirroring his logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: If BCCI or Sports Tak retracts the story, you mod can close the thread Why will BCCI retract from story posted by some random site? Why will sports tak retract from the story? I think thread should be closed directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 22 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Why will BCCI retract from story posted by some random site? Why will sports tak retract from the story? I think thread should be closed directly. Every site is random and driven by its subscribers. Credibility is not the issue anymore. Innocent till proven guilty. True until proven fake. Yes BCCI would retract or deny like any organization would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Poor guys are missing out on two of the tastiest meats on the planet. Beef Chukka with Parota, Fried rice with Sweet and Sour Pork will surely be in my all time Top 5 dishes. People who have not tasted Pork before, try it once. You will never go back to chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) Veg vs Non-Veg 1 kg of meat needs a lot more resources than 1 kg of vegetables. But still I consider that as a result of evolution, we (i.e. human beings) need a large variety of food, which includes vegetables/fruits and also meat/fish. (1) All the scientific data proves that our ancestors were hunter-gatherers for millions of years. (2) Our teeth points out that we are omnivore and could eat both vegetables and meat. (3) * The length of intestine of herbivores is about 10 (or more) times of their total height, so that vegetable get enough time to be digested. * While the Intestine of Carnivores is very small (half the length of body), as meat does not need long time for digestion. Actually, is should come out of body as soon as possible, otherwise it becomes toxic. * While the length of intestine of omnivores is about 5 times of their total height. It is a compromise between meat and vegetables. And human intestine is about 5 times of his height, which also indicates that we are omnivores. If we follow the nature and the scientific data and logic, then all of them point out that Omnivorous diet is ideal for us as human beings. Cutting blood arteries of throat is indeed a better and superior way than Jhatka Please differentiate between these 2 things: (1) Slaughtering in name of Allah/God (i.e. Halal/Kosher/Bali). It should be banned in all countries. (2) Slaughtering an animal in a way that has been in modern Halal/Kosher way (i.e. cutting the blood arteries in the throat, so that maximum blood is drained out). I fully support this way of slaughtering as compared to Jhatka, while: * Jhatka causes a lot more pain to an animal as compared to cutting only the blood arteries. * Drainage of blood during slaughter produces meat which is more tender, more tasty and stays fresh for longer time. Such meat has less microbial load (link to scientific study 1 and study 2 ). Even in the western countries, even if they do Jhatka, still they try to hang the body upside down, in order to drain the blood, while they also know if blood remains in the body, then it does not make the meat tasty. Pain Argument: One of the greatest mistake that we (i.e. Non-Muslims) make is to try to ban Halal slaughter in name of "Pain Argument". Please remember that Muslims will always win this argument against us, while modern scientific studies are on their side and they show that Halal way causes lesser pain than the Jhatka way. Scientific study (which was done by a German scientist Dr. Schulze) shows that death (unconsciousness) is caused within 10 seconds (for sheep/goats) and within 30 seconds (for cattle) in Halal method due to lack of blood, and it is the same for Jhatka method too where whole neck is cut off in one strike. In both methods "unconsciousness" is caused due to the lack of blood. But the difference is this that in Jhatka method, the "spinal cord" is also cut. Due to this, the nerves going to heart are also cut off immediately, and the heart stops beating (i.e. immediate heart attack in many cases), and thus the blood also stops running in the veins and arteries and drainage of blood does not take place. But there are cases where the animal does not get this immediate heart attack in Jhatka method, and the heart keeps on beating. In this scenario, animal keeps it's movements almost just like in Halal slaughter. Please watch the following video (link) where whole throat has been cut, but still the animal is able to do the movements after a minute, while the animal didn't get the heart attack. Islam didn't invent the method of Halal slaughter (i.e. cutting the blood arteries in throat), but ancient Hunters invented it The slitting the blood arteries of throat (like in Halal slaughter) was an old practice. Before Islam, it was done by the per-Islamic Arabs and also by the Arab Jews who resided in Madina. And before Jews, it had already been done by the Hunters for thousands of years. For cutting the whole throat in one strike (non Halal Method), one needs a big heavy axe. But it was not possible for the hunters to carry such heavy axe during hunt where they had to chase the animals for many miles. Thus hunters only carried knives with them during long chase, and thus slitting the blood arteries of throat was the preferred way of killing for them as compared to cutting the whole throat off. Many people even didn't have knives, and they had to use sharp stones, and thus they were only able to cut the blood arteries of throat, and not the whole neck. Therefore, CREDIT of present Halal method does not go to Islam, but to the ancient hunters. Most Humane way of slaughter (better than Halal one): In Halal slaughter the wind pipe, food-tract (oesophagus) are also cut along with the 2 jugular veins. But this cutting of wind pipe and food tract is extremely painful for the animal. The most humane way of slaughter not Halal, but to only cut of the two jugular veins. You could see this slaughter in this video (link). Also stun the animal before slaughtering (as has been done in the modern times). It will make whole process totally pain free for the animal. Summary: * Don't use Jhatka, as it is not as good for health as compared to cutting the blood arteries. * Do stun the animal, and then only cut the blood arteries which carry the blood to the brain, so that animal becomes unconscious within next 3-5 seconds. * Stop using the Pain Argument for supporting the Jhatka method over the Halal method. It is a mistake which will only benefit Muslims and their arguments as scientific studies are showing that Jhatka causes more pain to the animal. * Don't call this method to be Halal. No, it is not Halal while firstly it was invented by the Hunter gatherers, and secondly, you are not cutting the wind pipe and oesophagus (food tract) in this method. * Put a complete ban upon HALAL in the Official affairs (i.e. Indian Airlines, hospitals, sports etc). Reason is very simple, we could not eat any meat which has been slaughter in the name of any god/Allah etc. Muslims may eat Halal privately, but India should not provide any Halal meat officially. All players should go on hunger-strike if still Halal meat is provided to them. Edited November 22, 2021 by Alam_dar Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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