Majestic Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Who is the worst cricketer to play 100 or more tests in international cricket? Some names in contention :- Mark Boucher Ian Bell Mike Atherton Daniel Vettori Ishant Sharma Saleem Malik Carl Hooper Harbhajan Singh A case can be made for a few more. Discuss! tweaker and Clarke 1 1
goose Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Ishant Sharma....daylight....Ishant Sharma. nevada, Norman and ravishingravi 1 2
Popular Post vvvslaxman Posted January 8, 2022 Popular Post Posted January 8, 2022 Ishant despite playing 100 tests was always a back up lol. If Tendulkar's son makes debut now Ishant will be his back up. velu, Sgattick10, I6MTW and 8 others 11
Trichromatic Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 If Ian Bell is in the list, why not Ganguly then?
Majestic Posted January 8, 2022 Author Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: If Ian Bell is in the list, why not Ganguly then? Ganguly was a great captain and a part time seamer. Bell was more of a home track minnow basher. Edited January 8, 2022 by Majestic
First class Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Salim Malik was fixer, no doubt about it but was great cricketer otherwise , deserved to play 100 test if he was not a fixer. Boucher , Vittori and Hooper all were worth 100 tests player. Worst player to play 100 tests would be Azhar Ali , if he played 9 more for Pakistan , I hope not . Majestic, Clarke and rollingstoned 1 1 1
kosingh Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Probably Bell. How much they would love to have someone like Bell in the current. That average of 37 in Australia looks very useful now.
R!TTER Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Limp d*** Sharma India's Ishant Sharma says 100 Tests just a number
coffee_rules Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Some in list don’t deserve to be in the list. Mark Boucher - didn’t he have ARG wkt stats till recently or still has? I sharma of course, but he also benefited from TINA for a long time when India only produced trundles like Praveen , Vinay, Unadkat, etc Clarke 1
putrevus Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, Majestic said: Ganguly was a great captain and a part time seamer. Bell was more of a home track minnow basher. Non sense Bell was far superior batsman than Ganguly.
Vijy Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, putrevus said: Non sense Bell was far superior batsman than Ganguly. he had a better technique and looked "pretty" when batting, but was an underachiever. Ganguly had clear technical limitations (e.g., bounce), and did as well as he could under the circumstances.
Vijy Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Carl Hooper was a big underachiever. However, WI batting was uneven in 90s, which is why it makes sense he played 100 tests. My vote for the most undeserving player for 100 tests is Ishant, even though I am grateful for his contributions for the last 3-4 yrs.
Majestic Posted January 8, 2022 Author Posted January 8, 2022 42 minutes ago, putrevus said: Non sense Bell was far superior batsman than Ganguly. Clearly you have not followed their careers well enough. Ganguly had an average of 49 till 1999 after which he took the captaincy and his batting saw dip. Yes, he had technical limitations but he still has produced enough memorable moments/performances to be rated as much better player than Bell. With Ganguly, you can think of his Brisbane knock which was on genuine bouncy wickets of Brisbane in 2003. Back then, Adelaide and Sydney were more suited to us but Ganguly played that knock on Brisbane. He also has a batting average of 60+ in England. With Bell though, you can't really come out with any such iconic knock away from home in tough conditions. He was mostly a support batsman to Cook and KP and by the time around 2014-15, when he had the chance to lead the England batting after KP left and Cook was going through bad patch, he was overshadowed by younger men like Root who were playing more impactful knocks while Bell used to go missing batting higher up the order (2015 Ashes). You just add what Ganguly achieved as captain and this becomes simply a no brainer. diga, Vk1, AuxiliA and 3 others 6
LordPrabhzy Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Ishant.... played over 100 tests yet nowhere close to 400 wickets Lord 1
Texan Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Ishant Sharma and Harbhajan Singh I think people are not seeing through how useless Harbhajan was in his last few years in the team. Since 2006, he had a bowling average of 37 overall and even in India, it was 35. We were just carrying an extra deadweight everywhere we played.
Texan Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 By the way, why are Boucher, Bell, Vettori, Mallik in the list? Mallik, Bell averaged 43, 42 respectively. Those averages aren't great but not bad either. If these guys made it to the list, then why not Ganguly, Fleming, Strauss and Mark Waugh? Mark Waugh in my opinion was one of the most overrated batsmen of all time, who kept his place in a strong Australian lineup blocking better players like Dean Jones, Darren Lehmann and Stuart Law from playing. Also, why is Boucher in this list? He played in a team that had all-rounders like Pollock, Kallis, Klusener and even Symcox, so his batting was not all that needed and he often had to just score some quick runs to enable a declaration. His keeping was topnotch and his batting was better than Dave Richardson, who he had replaced in the team. I also don't get why Vettori is in this list either. If you look purely at his bowling average, then yes, he wasn't that great purely as a bowler. But, he has a batting average of 30 with 6 hundreds. So, he was a useful bowler who could bat really well. Majestic, rollingstoned, Chakdephatte and 3 others 1 1 4
rangeelaraja Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 None other than Sanath Jayasuriya. Averaged 25 odd in Sena countries over a 20 year cricket and 110 tests. Colombo and Sharjah FTB Under_Score 1
Majestic Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 7 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: None other than Sanath Jayasuriya. Averaged 25 odd in Sena countries over a 20 year cricket and 110 tests. Colombo and Sharjah FTB Jayasuriya was aggressive opener and has close to 100 test wickets too. That's more than good enough.
rangeelaraja Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Majestic said: Jayasuriya was aggressive opener and has close to 100 test wickets too. That's more than good enough. 70 % of his wickets are home wickets just like his one sided batting performance and dud performances in SENA countries. He was the quintessential flat track/home track bully who was an absolute FLOP in tests in SENA countries. Under_Score 1
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