BacktoCricaddict Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 12:57 PM, kepler37b said: Covid is NOT a flu. It's a disease that is capable of systematic inflammation. Millions of people across the world are suffering from autoimmune diseases Linger after the infection subsides. Called long covid. I have been free of Covid for a month, but still suffering from after effects. Wish you a full and speedy recovery. kepler37b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Vijy said: v. sorry to hear that - I wish you a safe and smooth recovery! as someone with chronic illness, I imagine it must be very tough dealing with day-to-day life and coping with the manifold ways in which one's body has become fragile Yeah man. The disease has been pretty severe for me. It is beyond my control now. Comparing life before and after covid hurts a lot. Vijy and Lord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vk1 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 @BacktoCricaddict whats your opinion on neoCov.. lots of media trying to create fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vk1 said: @BacktoCricaddict whats your opinion on neoCov.. lots of media trying to create fear I spent a little time reading the original research paper (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.24.477490v1). It is a "pre-print," which means it has not been peer-reviewed and published yet. I am taking the results at face-value since I am not fully qualified to analyze all the technical nuances that someone who does those sorts of experiments regularly can pick up. Take-aways: (1) The experiments described in the paper were done in cell cultures to test hypothetical models generated by computer algorithms. (2) The results show that NeoCoV *could* *maybe* efficiently enter human cells that are grown in the lab in petri-dishes *if* they pick up one specific spike-protein mutation. Since NeoCoV is closely related to MERS-CoV, it *could* *maybe* kill humans at the same rate as MERS. (3) But, we don't know *if* NeoCoV will pick up the mutation in nature and become more infectious in humans. It is possible that, *if* it ever picks up that mutation, it won't even survive in bats, and may never make it to humans. If it ever does, we don't know *if* it will kill at the same rate as MERS (35% death rate). It is also important to note that they were not working directly with NeoCoV and manipulating it to have the mutations. So, lots of *ifs* and *buts* at this stage, but nothing to be scared about. But we must monitor zoonotic sources (camels, bats etc) to see if there are any indications of this mutation in MERS-CoV and NeoCoV that have popped up in nature. Most importantly, we must ensure that closer monitoring of virology labs all over the world to ensure that they are adhering with proper biosafety protocols. I don't know what can be leveraged against powerful governments, but this is an imperative (There are very few things that I am convinced about, but I am getting close to being convinced that SARS CoV2 leaked from WIV due to negligence). Second, we must put a moratorium on gain-of-function virus research again or ban it altogether. It is just not worth it. Edited January 28, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict EnterTheVoid, Vk1 and Vijy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 12 hours ago, Vk1 said: @BacktoCricaddict whats your opinion on neoCov.. lots of media trying to create fear i thought it was only in bats and not human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 @BacktoCricaddict Anna does this to all his detractors daily (warning: use headphones) diga, BacktoCricaddict, Sgattick10 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:09 PM, jf1gp_1 said: i thought it was only in bats and not human The Chinese are not sure of their lab safety standards and are warning the world of what might leak in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 11:27 PM, kepler37b said: Covid is NOT a flu. It's a disease that is capable of systematic inflammation. Millions of people across the world are suffering from autoimmune diseases Linger after the infection subsides. Called long covid. I have been free of Covid for a month, but still suffering from after effects. this covid seems like the god of diseases. now we can add auto immune diseases under the covid umbrella. but your definition of inflammation does have some merit though. Inflammation causes heart disease, stroke, abnormally high blood pressure, kidney failure, etc. Have you felt anything of this sort before getting vaccinated or after. You have said you were vaccinated and had this long covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Real McCoy said: this covid seems like the god of diseases. now we can add auto immune diseases under the covid umbrella. but your definition of inflammation does have some merit though. Inflammation causes heart disease, stroke, abnormally high blood pressure, kidney failure, etc. Have you felt anything of this sort before getting vaccinated or after. You have said you were vaccinated and had this long covid Yes. It is god of diseases. I was vaccinated with Covaxin, the most "traditional" of the ones. I absoultely had no effects after vaccination. And I believe it did NOT help me at all in my sickness. People are saying it kept me alive. But no one is sure. The kicker is that even the most fit and healthy people are coming down with severe post covid reactions. This is a bio-weapon class virus. Edited February 4, 2022 by kepler37b EnterTheVoid and voldy666 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 With hardly any new cases, why this preparedness drill and urging people to mask up again ? The variant ba7 itself has been in India for months. What am I missing ? Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: With hardly any new cases, why this preparedness drill and urging people to mask up again ? The variant ba7 itself has been in India for months. What am I missing ? China has been doing bad may be there is a new variant who knows. But china has millions of hospitalizations and many deaths. They even went as far mobilizing troops to Taiwan for the cover up lol. Edited December 27, 2022 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 14 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: With hardly any new cases, why this preparedness drill and urging people to mask up again ? The variant ba7 itself has been in India for months. What am I missing ? Better be prepared than face the unexpected. The virus keeps mutating ... with so many in China affected - I am sure there will be a few new mutations to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 16 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: With hardly any new cases, why this preparedness drill and urging people to mask up again ? The variant ba7 itself has been in India for months. What am I missing ? Once bitten twice shy based on the delta wave last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 13 hours ago, Clarke said: Once bitten twice shy based on the delta wave last year. yeah, that's right. better to be safe than sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Why is China so poorly vaccinated, it doesn’t add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, goose said: Why is China so poorly vaccinated, it doesn’t add up. Chinese vaccines are fake as well. They hide their numbers too. Edited December 31, 2022 by gattaca Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 7 hours ago, goose said: Why is China so poorly vaccinated, it doesn’t add up. the numbers are not trustworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Vijy said: the numbers are not trustworthy Which numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 This crap is here to stay. I lost my sense of smell. It has now come back. Take every booster that is available and stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 2 hours ago, goose said: Which numbers? the ones that were coming out before they stopped sharing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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