Texan Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The problem with Indian cricket is that FC cricket is not much of an upgrade from U-19 international cricket and so players like Dhull find it very easy to play. He should be added to the A teams right away. SRT100 and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Texan said: The problem with Indian cricket is that FC cricket is not much of an upgrade from U-19 international cricket and so players like Dhull find it very easy to play. He should be added to the A teams right away. good ranji teams are much stronger than U19 teams. people underestimate gap between U19 and FC levels, which is why the majority of U19 players don't make it in FC Suhaan, nevada and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment
Jay Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Texan said: The problem with Indian cricket is that FC cricket is not much of an upgrade from U-19 international cricket and so players like Dhull find it very easy to play. He should be added to the A teams right away. Ranji is like the best domestic comp in the world. Lol at not much higher than under 19. Shaw got bamboozled twice by undacutta of all people in ranji. Many of the so called sena fodders would get cleaned by even guys like harshal Patel in ranji. It's a whole different ball game. Vijy 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Vijy said: good ranji teams are much stronger than U19 teams. people underestimate gap between U19 and FC levels, which is why the majority of U19 players don't make it in FC The stronger teams, yes. But due to the large number of teams in Ranji, there are many weak teams that are quite club level. SRT100 and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay said: Ranji is like the best domestic comp in the world. Lol at not much higher than under 19. Shaw got bamboozled twice by undacutta of all people in ranji. Many of the so called sena fodders would get cleaned by even guys like harshal Patel in ranji. It's a whole different ball game. Not all teams are competitive. We need to reduce the number of teams playing Ranji Trophy to improve the quality. Link to comment
Jay Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Texan said: Not all teams are competitive. We need to reduce the number of teams playing Ranji Trophy to improve the quality. Oh yea I agree not all teams are quality. But we have plate divisions for that. 3 pools. Top 10 is very tough. Link to comment
Jay Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: Why? We don't have enough teams given our population,even a tiny country like aus have 6 teams . You mean tiny in terms of population? Yes. Link to comment
Lord Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 7 hours ago, MultiB48 said: Why? We don't have enough teams given our population,even a tiny country like aus have 6 teams . how does that matter. The population can compete at lower levels. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Texan said: The stronger teams, yes. But due to the large number of teams in Ranji, there are many weak teams that are quite club level. yes, about 1/3 or 1/2 of ranji teams might lose to Ind U19 but that's mostly because of the addition of new teams. I believe that at least 10-12 teams in ranjis can beat U19 comfortably. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Vijy said: yes, about 1/3 or 1/2 of ranji teams might lose to Ind U19 but that's mostly because of the addition of new teams. I believe that at least 10-12 teams in ranjis can beat U19 comfortably. Deodar Trophy is there for that. In the past like 70s, 80s, 90s Irani Trophy was given a lot of weightage for national call up. Even national players would take part In this match Ganguly captained ROI. Tendulkar captained Mumbai. In an epic chase Dravid and Laxman sealed the deal for ROI by chasing 344 runs in 4th innings. Do we still have Irani trophy. Was cancelled long back if i am right. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/irani-trophy-2003-04-369682/mumbai-vs-rest-of-india-133757/full-scorecard Vijy 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Deodar Trophy is there for that. In the past like 70s, 80s, 90s Irani Trophy was given a lot of weightage for national call up. Even national players would take part In this match Ganguly captained ROI. Tendulkar captained Mumbai. In an epic chase Dravid and Laxman sealed the deal for ROI by chasing 344 runs in 4th innings. Do we still have Irani trophy. Was cancelled long back if i am right. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/irani-trophy-2003-04-369682/mumbai-vs-rest-of-india-133757/full-scorecard deodhar trophy also had a beast performance from yusuf pathan. Link to comment
Lord Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/13/2022 at 6:20 PM, MultiB48 said: Without Ranji status they won't and without opportunity no one improves. They can get opportunity at lower levels. Only those who are very good should make it to Ranjis Right now there are too many mediocre players in Ranjis and it is difficult to assess players as even semi good ones have crazy numbers due to opposition being poor Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord said: They can get opportunity at lower levels. Only those who are very good should make it to Ranjis Right now there are too many mediocre players in Ranjis and it is difficult to assess players as even semi good ones have crazy numbers due to opposition being poor Duleep trophy should be the next big test for cricketers passing through Ranji and should form national selection criteria base BCCI should pay emphasis to these things Ranjis shouldn't be all end all ,zonal cricket should be made more competitive and only the best of the lot should come through over there and eventually in the national reckoning raki05 and Lord 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 22 hours ago, Lord said: They can get opportunity at lower levels. Only those who are very good should make it to Ranjis Right now there are too many mediocre players in Ranjis and it is difficult to assess players as even semi good ones have crazy numbers due to opposition being poor Most teams will have one or two good bowlers. If those one or two bowlers can be seen off you can cash in against others. Nowadays players don't hesitate to move to another state to get noticed. Sandeep warrier moved to TN. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ranji-trophy-2022-23-yash-dhull-named-captain-of-delhi-ishant-sharma-also-in-squad-for-first-two-games-1349040 Dhull named captain of Delhi Ranji team, Ishant also in squad for first two games Link to comment
gattaca Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ranji-trophy-2022-23-yash-dhull-named-captain-of-delhi-ishant-sharma-also-in-squad-for-first-two-games-1349040 Dhull named captain of Delhi Ranji team, Ishant also in squad for first two games Lol can ishant stop hogging place in Ranjis ? At least a youngster can play. That dude has been in cricket forever. vvvslaxman and raki05 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, gattaca said: Lol can ishant stop hogging place in Ranjis ? At least a youngster can play. That dude has been in cricket forever. Unbelievable he is playing under a guy who played under-19 in 2022!! When Ishant made debut Yash Dhull was 4 years old lol gattaca, raki05, Sgattick10 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 7 hours ago, gattaca said: Lol can ishant stop hogging place in Ranjis ? At least a youngster can play. That dude has been in cricket forever. We should be grateful that he is not occupying a place in the Indian Team. nevada and Pollack 2 Link to comment
Adamant Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 9 hours ago, gattaca said: Lol can ishant stop hogging place in Ranjis ? At least a youngster can play. That dude has been in cricket forever. Why should he not play? Any particular reason why he should end his domestic career too? Its on selectors and TM to not pick him if he isn't good enough. We owe a lot to Ishant for our fast bowling supremacy from 2016 to 2020. Even now we are missing someone like him, a stock bowler who can be deadly when the ball moves in air. His absence is the reason our bowling lineup has started conceding 250 + targets in test cricket. He will definitely try to get back, it's on selectors and TM to not pick him if he isn't good enough. anish2tweet 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Dhull has gone off the boil a bit lately, and he has been given delhi captaincy too early. would have been nice to see him get 1 more ranji season under the belt before taking up the pressure of captaincy. now, I am concerned that he will burn out Link to comment
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