maniac Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, rkt.india said: Samad is not an AR. Any batsman who can just hurl the ball to the wk can't be called AR. Samad isn’t much of a batsman too from what I have seen of him so far. Yes he has power and timing when the ball is in his arc kind of like ocean smith or ocean Smith or whatever the WI allrounder name is . He has 0 temperament or cricket awareness from what I have seen. Since he is young hope he learns. Edited February 14, 2022 by maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, maniac said: Obviously compromising on pace and only bowling knuckles is a problem. Isn’t that so obvious that we all agree on. There's an answer express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Just now, Suhaan said: There's an answer That is not an answer. just seems like speculation or assumption. Bhuvi also picked up his pace a few years back when he was in SRH. Guys like Sandeep and Kaul were being played because of T.I.N.A factor because SRH had problem with overseas combos. Top 3 all foreign bats + Rashid Khan. SRH was punching above its weight all these years because of bowling. Few years back their fast bowling line up was Steyn,Ishant, Siraj (who was really impressive with SRH), Thampi (who did well with SRH), Natarajan (who evolved into an international player and contributed well), Bhuvi (who improved his pace briefly). Sure there was decline Bhuvi being injured and over the hill. Sandeep and Kaul had good seasons too where they were useful. Sandeep is actually a specialist new ball bowler and he did have success against top bats. SRH always had a bowling culture so I am looking at this positively. I don’t understand the negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, maniac said: That is not an answer. just seems like speculation or assumption. Bhuvi also picked up his pace a few years back when he was in SRH. Guys like Sandeep and Kaul were being played because of T.I.N.A factor because SRH had problem with overseas combos. Top 3 all foreign bats + Rashid Khan. SRH was punching above its weight all these years because of bowling. Few years back their fast bowling line up was Steyn,Ishant, Siraj (who was really impressive with SRH), Thampi (who did well with SRH), Natarajan (who evolved into an international player and contributed well), Bhuvi (who improved his pace briefly). Sure there was decline Bhuvi being injured and over the hill. Sandeep and Kaul had good seasons too where they were useful. Sandeep is actually a specialist new ball bowler and he did have success against top bats. SRH always had a bowling culture so I am looking at this positively. I don’t understand the negativity. SRH was top notch post Steyn days when Bhuvi was really swinging it,he has nothing to boast off apart from bowling 6 knuckle balls, ofcourse LockieArcher,Wood have deceptive slowers but that deception comes as a huge variation With 120k trundlers bowling 6 slowers ones its innocuous bowling They all have ability to swing,but all of them would have opened bowling anyway,their strategy was all about cutters , slowers etc which didn't work in other seasons Sides need variety in their attack,you should understand it ,Tyagi already has good slower delivery,he doesn't need to over learn or overdo it Umran hasn't played much we need to see a little more to make any opinion about him,maybe he too already has good variations Yes,Steyn is a great addition for these young kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Suhaan said: SRH was top notch post Steyn days when Bhuvi was really swinging it,he has nothing to boast off apart from bowling 6 knuckle balls, ofcourse LockieArcher,Wood have deceptive slowers but that deception comes as a huge variation With 120k trundlers bowling 6 slowers ones its innocuous bowling They all have ability to swing,but all of them would have opened bowling anyway,their strategy was all about cutters , slowers etc which didn't work in other seasons Sides need variety in their attack,you should understand it ,Tyagi already has good slower delivery,he doesn't need to over learn or overdo it Umran hasn't played much we need to see a little more to make any opinion about him,maybe he too already has good variations Yes,Steyn is a great addition for these young kids I don’t know what is different in what you are saying from what I have said now or before. That fear that some how a person bowling 145+ will be turned into a dibbly dobbly trundler under a professional set up with highly paid coaches is dumb and irrational. Sandeep and Kaul might not suit your taste but they did have some skills that worked on some pitches. That’s about it. That doesn’t make them the worst bowlers to play the game. Having too many such bowlers is an issue and that is why Umran was fast tracked and now Tyagi was sought after. let’s step back a bit: what exactly seems to be your complain? You are telling me that SRH has a conspiracy to identify fast bowlers in India and turn them into trundlers on purpose? Edited February 14, 2022 by maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, maniac said: I don’t know what is different you are saying from what I have said now or before. That fear that some how a person bowling 145+ will be turned into a dibbly dobbly trundler under a professional set up with highly paid coaches is dumb and irrational. Sandeep and Kaul might not suit your taste but they did have some skills that worked on some pitches. That’s about it. That doesn’t make them the worst bowlers to play the game. Having too many such bowlers is an issue and that is why Umran was fast tracked and now Tyagi was sought after. let’s step back a bit: what exactly seems to be your complain? You are telling me that SRH has a conspiracy to identify fast bowlers in India and turn them into trundlers on purpose? Umran wasn't fast tracked brother,he was an injury replacement SRH were robotic in their approach by playing all trundler attack,you too know it well 9 minutes ago, maniac said: step back a bit: what exactly seems to be your complain? You are telling me that SRH has a conspiracy to identify fast bowlers in India and turn them into trundlers on purpose? Hehe,no no But they think bowling cutters, slowers all across 55-60 deliveries will always work for them, Hope they give Umran,Tyagi proper run The fear is just a concern,need to see how they show up this season and mostly been done on a lighter note,but yes i admit few of us are little concerned Edited February 14, 2022 by Suhaan express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ungboysj Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 9:52 AM, express bowling said: I am really worried about Tyagi now. Boobi and Natarajan maybe automatic picks. Umran may get in because of his express pace. ( After all he was retained ) How will the fast, bouncy, hostile and tall Tyagi get to play !!!! Not expected from you to use such unacceptable words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Kartik should have been picked by MI. They got Unadkat instead. Pollack and Rightarmfast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Tyagi is the most exciting young talent. Way better than zameer and any other age fudging pricks. Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 2:27 AM, rkt.india said: Samad is not an AR. Any batsman who can just hurl the ball to the wk can't be called AR. true, I should have written part-timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 11:23 AM, rkt.india said: Kartik should have been picked by MI. They got Unadkat instead. perhaps they wanted a slow-medium bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 @Austin 3:!6 pls move it to IPL section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 Only team where results don’t matter. Every one tunes in to watch 157 (this will be in the past soon too) or a young 20 year old already hitting 149 Win or lose has entire cricketing world buzzing raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 2:22 PM, express bowling said: I am really worried about Tyagi now. Boobi and Natarajan maybe automatic picks. Umran may get in because of his express pace. ( After all he was retained ) How will the fast, bouncy, hostile and tall Tyagi get to play !!!! If you ask me in terms of potential, i would say my rankings are prasidh then tyagi and followed by umran. I always maintained that ummie will need to be consistent with brutal bouncers to be as good as prasidh and tyagi. They are all good in their own right but my personal preference is a pure bounce based bowler. History has shown that a bowler who bowls with consistent bounce is harder to hit than even an ultra fast bowler. It's the truth. If ummie can develop that back of good length ball for rising deliveries then he can be as good as prasidh in the long run. Potential is certainly there. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 9:53 PM, rkt.india said: Kartik should have been picked by MI. They got Unadkat instead. Unadkat being picked by MI has Zaheer Khan written all over it. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay said: If you ask me in terms of potential, i would say my rankings are prasidh then tyagi and followed by umran. I always maintained that ummie will need to be consistent with brutal bouncers to be as good as prasidh and tyagi. They are all good in their own right but my personal preference is a pure bounce based bowler. History has shown that a bowler who bowls with consistent bounce is harder to hit than even an ultra fast bowler. It's the truth. If ummie can develop that back of good length ball for rising deliveries then he can be as good as prasidh in the long run. Potential is certainly there. ambrose, garner, mcgee, and so on. best combo is to have an ultrafast bounce bowler, preferably left-arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dery Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Vijy said: ambrose, garner, mcgee, and so on. best combo is to have an ultrafast bounce bowler, preferably left-arm. Shaheen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dery said: Shaheen He isn't bouncy for his height express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Suhaan said: He isn't bouncy for his height And he sucks and chucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Dery said: Shaheen They are not talking about "Name the bowler who got thrashed for 3 sixes in a row by a Gujarat Titans drop out" singhvivek141, raki05, nevada and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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