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Progress of Punjab under the new leadership of Bhagwant Mann

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39 minutes ago, Khota said:

Punjab border is where all the invaders came from. Bogus arguement.

Coz it's a plain area ripe for launching a invasion.  Ghori captured Bhatinda first too.  Made a ideal base for attacking Delhi.  Subsequent invaders followed same paths. 

Alexander also attacked Punjab.. 

 

Indian forces launched a invasion into Pak Punjab & Sialkot in 1965 from same sector...  Both armies were at a deadlock in Kashmir at mountains. 

It's a saying the one who controlled Punjab & Khyber (pass)  controlled Indian landmass.   Mauyras,  Guptas then Muslims,  Sikhs under Ranjit Singh & finally British were the only powers who did that. 

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5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Coz it's a plain area ripe for launching a invasion.  Ghori captured Bhatinda first too.  Made a ideal base for attacking Delhi.  Subsequent invaders followed same paths. 

Alexander also attacked Punjab.. 

 

Indian forces launched a invasion into Pak Punjab & Sialkot in 1965 from same sector...  Both armies were at a deadlock in Kashmir at mountains. 

It's a saying the one who controlled Punjab & Khyber (pass)  controlled Indian landmass.   Mauyras,  Guptas then Muslims,  Sikhs under Ranjit Singh & finally British were the only powers who did that. 

And let us not forget Sikander and Porus (the king of Punjab) fought here too.

 

ICFers conveniently forget that Rajasthan is a desert and not convenient for launching a invasion. Kashmir is a mountainous area. They come up with this crap argument that others are border states too and the cult agrees.

 

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Guj coastline was under direct fire in 1965. The much targeted magnate from the same state built the world's largest refinery there. Now if you fancy attacking his telecom infra based on khayali pulao, tough luck getting big investment. Ditto with the example of Mundra port and the other magnate. Over there we have the resident santas cook up a story on a flourishing drug business. Maybe Udta Punjab is all the jamaat is capable of. 

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If Punjab wants to increase employment it has to look at labour intensive sectors which can employ a lot of ppl. With its rich culture, amazing food and Amritsar as a crown jewel - can really focus on tourism. Airports are already in place in multiple cities. All it needs is good infra for hotels and hospitality. Heavy industries in a place already reeling under pollution doesn't make any sense. Thanks to Bollywood - Punjab is already a well known place across India. It should really capitalize on this sector. Industries require a lot of capex and will ultimately only provide a few thousand jobs vs the hundreds of thousands with tourism. Entire countries like Turkey run thanks to only that.

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1 hour ago, Clarke said:

Guj coastline was under direct fire in 1965. The much targeted magnate from the same state built the world's largest refinery there. Now if you fancy attacking his telecom infra based on khayali pulao, tough luck getting big investment. Ditto with the example of Mundra port and the other magnate. Over there we have the resident santas cook up a story on a flourishing drug business. Maybe Udta Punjab is all the jamaat is capable of. 

That was nothing compared what happened in 1965 where direct artillery & mechanized infantry action was happening along Punjab & J&K.  Largest Tank battles since WW2 happened in Khemkaran & along Sialkot...  Nearby Jammu was facing immense pressure after capture of Chammb. 

Only direct notable infantry action Gujarat saw was just before 1965 when Pak infiltrated in far flung areas of Rann of Kutch. 

There's basically difference of night & day comparing the two. 

Also Indian Navy comes into play along tge coast & basically bullies small little PN. 

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4 hours ago, bharathh said:

If Punjab wants to increase employment it has to look at labour intensive sectors which can employ a lot of ppl. With its rich culture, amazing food and Amritsar as a crown jewel - can really focus on tourism. Airports are already in place in multiple cities. All it needs is good infra for hotels and hospitality. Heavy industries in a place already reeling under pollution doesn't make any sense. Thanks to Bollywood - Punjab is already a well known place across India. It should really capitalize on this sector. Industries require a lot of capex and will ultimately only provide a few thousand jobs vs the hundreds of thousands with tourism. Entire countries like Turkey run thanks to only that.

Good post. Tourism is a part of it. You do need industry too.

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1 hour ago, Khota said:

If true, that the CM was drunk there can be no excuse and he has to apologize. He needs counselling as this is not the best representation.

 

He still deserves a chance as the Badals plainly looted the state.

Agree, just bcoz  he has not been involved in any corruption until now doesn't mean that he can get drunk in public & cause embarrassment to himself & the party. Already so many challenges for him, every move of his is being hounded by Badals & other opposition parties ( including their IT cell warriors who make up BS like there is no tomorrow :phehe: ).....he has to be extra careful....hopefully he understands this for the betterment of Punjab. 

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8 hours ago, Khota said:

If true, that the CM was drunk there can be no excuse and he has to apologize. He needs counselling as this is not the best representation.

 

He still deserves a chance as the Badals plainly looted the state.

There is no if. Its true. Thehindu report on story is as factual as it can get supported by eyewitness accounts and circumstancial evidence.  But Why should he resign on what he does in his private life? If anything he should be measured on Policy calls, governance and efficiency. Punjab has voted for him for 5 years and he should complete the term.

 

Next election is only when he should or shouldn’t be dethroned

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1 hour ago, ravishingravi said:

For this state it doesn't matter. They are high on drugs anyway. They can protest against a bill for two years without reading it. Do you think they understand what fiscal means. 

 

 

Distribution of wealth in India is not fair to begin with. Lower strata people who have no voice are always exploited.

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Just now, mishra said:

There is no if. Its true. Thehindu report on story is as factual as it can get supported by eyewitness accounts and circumstancial evidence.  But Why should he resign on what he does in his private life? If anything he should be measured on Policy calls, governance and efficiency. Punjab has voted for him for 5 years and he should complete the term.

 

Next election is only when he should or shouldn’t be dethroned

I agree. If true, he needs to conduct himself better in public. I don't see Modi or Kejriwal behaving like that in public. 

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2 hours ago, Khota said:

Distribution of wealth in India is not fair to begin with. Lower strata people who have no voice are always exploited.

 

Random statements doesn't change bad economics. I am with you on inequality. Inequality is there at all levels. Doesn't change bad economic policy. Sri Lanka has a more equal society and the whole economy has collapsed due to bad economic policy.

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11 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Random statements doesn't change bad economics. I am with you on inequality. Inequality is there at all levels. Doesn't change bad economic policy. Sri Lanka has a more equal society and the whole economy has collapsed due to bad economic policy.

India is not SL and Punjab is not SL. Punjab is propped by remittances. But I agree with you that freebies cannot be sustained.

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15 hours ago, mishra said:

There is no if. Its true. Thehindu report on story is as factual as it can get supported by eyewitness accounts and circumstancial evidence.  But Why should he resign on what he does in his private life? If anything he should be measured on Policy calls, governance and efficiency. Punjab has voted for him for 5 years and he should complete the term.

 

Next election is only when he should or shouldn’t be dethroned

There is a difference between a single instance of a bad decision vs an observable pattern. There is a reason why addicts are not allowed to take up positions of responsibility - it makes you vulnerable to manipulation/bad decisions. If this man is an addict he should resign and someone else appointed. 

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