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25k Govt jobs announced by AAP. More overhead for the govt... are they trying to run out of budget in the first month itself? 

 

@Khota you always had a dislike for pensionjeevis - what is your thought about 25k jobs causing more overhead for the govt? 

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/punjab-cabinet-approves-25000-govt-jobs-first-meeting-aap-bhagwant-mann-1927036-2022-03-19

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2 hours ago, bharathh said:

25k Govt jobs announced by AAP. More overhead for the govt... are they trying to run out of budget in the first month itself? 

 

Punjab runs on bheekh from rest of India in the form of grants from center. The plan is to enhance government spend mindlessly and ask center for money - and when denied - cry about Punjab not getting its due etc. Create a sense of grievance combined with hateful khalistani manure being mainstreamed.

 

Only today, these langarjeets have stopped vehicles from Himachal entering the state because the government in Himachal confiscated khalistani flags from a bunch of them.

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4 hours ago, bharathh said:

25k Govt jobs announced by AAP. More overhead for the govt... are they trying to run out of budget in the first month itself? 

 

@Khota you always had a dislike for pensionjeevis - what is your thought about 25k jobs causing more overhead for the govt? 

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/punjab-cabinet-approves-25000-govt-jobs-first-meeting-aap-bhagwant-mann-1927036-2022-03-19

I am against all that. I think pvt sector should do bulk of the work.

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12 hours ago, bharathh said:

25k Govt jobs announced by AAP. More overhead for the govt... are they trying to run out of budget in the first month itself? 

 

@Khota you always had a dislike for pensionjeevis - what is your thought about 25k jobs causing more overhead for the govt? 

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/punjab-cabinet-approves-25000-govt-jobs-first-meeting-aap-bhagwant-mann-1927036-2022-03-19

So these are not nee jobs

 He is expediting filling existing vacancies.

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1 hour ago, Dery said:

BJP will try to discourage pro people policies of AAP 

What BJP will do is up to them.... I would rather focus on what AAP doesn't do that will give the opportunity to any other political party to point fingers & discourage the voters of Punjab.

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1 hour ago, Khota said:

Could you give some numbers or you pulled it out of you know where.

I posted some numbers earlier. You can take a look.. Punjab makes 22% of its budget (state only) in revenue. This does not include the many thousands of crores that are spent on MSP etc.

 

Electricity freebies means that it will lose 10% of its revenue straight off the bat - which will become an additional expense.

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2 hours ago, Dery said:

BJP will try to discourage pro people policies of AAP 

 

Where has any political party made a statement against this? Pro people policies = spend money you don't have? Does the Punjab govt have any plan for actually generating money? Otherwise it is all beekh na? 

 

So AAP promised many lakh jobs in their manifesto. Is their plan to give govt jobs to everyone? They are hiring 10k for police (probably useful) and 15k for other adminsitrative jobs (?) Don't you think there is enough red tapism and babudom without more administrative jobs being required? 

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11 minutes ago, Dery said:

Giving 25k jobs is hardly a big thing. How many jobs did BJP promise ?

 

Do you only see everything from a BJP lens. What does BJP have to do with this conversation? 

 

Btw 25k jobs is nothing? Really? 

 

If you even take 1 lakh a year for each job on average - the cost to the govt will be 250 C additional overhead YoY in a budget that is already going to be stretched thin with freebies. More than that - what are the jobs they will be put into? Police is understandable.. but 15k govt jobs in administration?? Are you saying our govt offices need more employees? You do understand that the salaries will keep increasing YoY and these folks will need to be paid lifetime pensions.

 

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I think we should stop looking at each and every thing they do , and start appreciating or criticising. 6 months is your honeymoon period where you can always talk about all the election promises like freebies etc without even worrying about the finances. Then the reality hits, and if AAP succeeds to reduce corruption, increase the revenue by improving industrialisation etc, they can give freebies which helps the poor, But giving every women Rs 1K is foolish move. It should be given to those for whom this makes a difference, for others it may be pocket money. But this can be excused as this is for winning elections,  every party in India do the same one way or other, and AAP is no different.  

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Not sure why OP has titled this thread as "Progress of Punjab". People of Punjab have voted for freebies. There was never any "progress" intended in AAP's plans, so if they don't deliver any progress, then they should not be faulted. It was never intended. As long as AAP can deliver on their goals of freebies and drag the state further into debt, then they would have met their stated goals. 

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^ There has been only regress in Punjab for the last two decades..courtesy  Akali Dal-BJP  & Congress. This is the first time ever there is a glimmer of hope for 'Progress'. Also.....Punjab voters were fed up & wanted a change....hence the Election result.

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6 hours ago, bharathh said:

I posted some numbers earlier. You can take a look.. Punjab makes 22% of its budget (state only) in revenue. This does not include the many thousands of crores that are spent on MSP etc.

 

Electricity freebies means that it will lose 10% of its revenue straight off the bat - which will become an additional expense.

I am asking for the numbers whe red e you mention it is one of the worst states.

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2 hours ago, Khota said:

I am asking for the numbers whe red e you mention it is one of the worst states.

Where did I mention that?

 

Anyways - here you go on behalf of someone else - https://www.financialexpress.com/economy/many-states-have-debts-hovering-around-40/2413768/

 

AAP is making the fiscal situation of Punjab even worse with freebies and increasing overhead without any measures to increase revenue to offset debts and kickstart the economy. I guess they are betting on reviving Khalistan or making Udta Punjab  into Behta Punjab with liquor stores like Delhi

 

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According to the latest Reserve Bank of India report on state finances, Punjab topped the states with the highest debt-to-GSDP at 49.1% in FY21, 6.6 percentage points more than a year ago. This is the worst debt ratio for the state since 1991; the high debt level is the result of years of fiscal profligacy such as farm loan waivers, free electricity to large sections of consumers, among others.

As a consequence, Punjab’s annual debt servicing liability is almost the same as its annual gross borrowings, leaving little resources for asset creation. The state has consistently underperformed vis-a-vis its capital expenditure targets: it achieved just 42% of the target in FY21 and 10% in FY20.

 

 

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2 hours ago, bharathh said:

That article quotes him as saying 10k new jobs for Police and 15k new jobs for admin are being created. How is this filling existing vacancies? 

Give AAP 2-3 years to understand which direction state is Going. I do not trust them to be capable enough to deliver anything. As I said, Punjab doesn’t enjoy Delhi NCR benefits. Its a state in itself. Expecting likes of watch makers and standup comedians to deliver something under anarcHist Kejri , I am near about 100% certain that nothing will happen.

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As expected, he is going to double down on socialism and govt jobs to avoid structural problems which frankly no govt can solve. I don’t begrudge them. State is a gone case. A very tough cocktail of jaahil, fundamentalists, addicts and revolutionaries. 
 

If AAP plays smart, they should keep handing out as much as possible because honestly Punjab is in the bag. They can run deficit as high as possible and central govt will fund them. But they can do good story around turnaround which may never happen. 

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