zen Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Lord said: except both Indian pacers and spinners took 10 wickets each The point is on pitches that turn excessively esp. from day 1 (not on which type of bowler. Warne took wkts almost everywhere for e.g.) ... The venue already got demerit points Edited March 21, 2022 by zen Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 It had excessive turn. That is the most ridiculous and idiotic statement.Srinath needs to get his head examined. ICC test finals was played on pitch which had exessive seam and swing from day 1 .Batting was never easy thru out the match as indicated by scores.Was that fair contest between bat and ball. Did we hear anything on that pitch. Norman and Lord 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 For some morons in here excessive spin is not good but to the same morons consider excessive swing and seam movement as great spectacle and great advertisement for test cricket.Who makes these rules.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Stan AF 1 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, putrevus said: For some morons in here excessive spin is not good but to the same morons consider excessive swing and seam movement as great spectacle and great advertisement for test cricket. Who makes these rules. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Logic usually given for that is that medium pacers/fast bowlers need a rest while spinners can keep on bowling so that makes it worse. Tbh bowling friendly pitches are not necessarily bad but the best pitches are those that encourage competition between bat and ball. Did any of the pitches in the 2017/18 tour of saf get rated as poor or below average? Link to comment
Stan AF Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 12 hours ago, putrevus said: For some morons in here excessive spin is not good but to the same morons consider excessive swing and seam movement as great spectacle and great advertisement for test cricket. Who makes these rules. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk White boys Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stan AF said: White boys The problem is not white boys. The problem is some Asians particularly Indians (including morons like Javagal Srinath) who still live with colonial mindset. Broad taking 8/15 on first day is considered a great spell.If Axar Patel takes 6fer on Indian wicket on first day .It is considered as an unfair pitch. These morons need to be told cricket is not basketball where conditions stay same everywhere. Edited March 22, 2022 by putrevus Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 All Pink ball tests have this nature. Don't they see that? Lord 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 18 hours ago, Lord said: except both Indian pacers and spinners took 10 wickets each One of the major flaw in this analysis is, it was our seamers that made inroads on day 1. Srinath has botched this one up. lol He was often a comedian with his decision making while running between wickets. He has done the same here. Lord and rollingstoned 2 Link to comment
sarcastic Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: All Pink ball tests have this nature. Don't they see that? Precisely. I think the pitches for pink ball tests should be "almost" flat roads since the wickets seem to fall invariably one time or the other, especially during twilight time. So, make the pitch more suitable for batsmen and let bowlers take care of the pink ball conditions and we have a balanced test match. Link to comment
Serpico Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, putrevus said: Broad taking 8/15 on first day is considered a great spell.If Axar Patel takes 6fer on Indian wicket on first day .It is considered as an unfair pitch No where have they mentioned about spinners taking wickets. The pitch didn't behave properly on day 1 with uneven bounce. You can see pitch breaking up and dust exploding from second session itself. That is the main problem. 6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: One of the major flaw in this analysis is, it was our seamers that made inroads on day 1. Srinath has botched this one up. lol He was often a comedian with his decision making while running between wickets. He has done the same here. Vijy 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 12:59 PM, Lord said: if Ashwin can score runs including a ton,the pitches were fine Except ofcourse pink ball Test where it skids on too fast and batsmen arent able to adjust to spin. he didn't score much beyond a ton. and those pitches were too bowler friendly. someone like root should not be getting cheap 5-fers Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Serpico said: No where have they mentioned about spinners taking wickets. The pitch didn't behave properly on day 1 with uneven bounce. You can see pitch breaking up and dust exploding from second session itself. That is the main problem. I merely go by this. Even otherwise there are certain times first day can be hard to bat on and it gets easier as the match goes on. Happened in SA. Often times that is the case in NZ. Even in India on a couple of occasions INdia got rolled over double digit score on day one and it became a batting beauty later. In the report, Srinath said: “The pitch offered a lot of turn on the first day itself and though it improved with every session, in my view, it was not an even contest between bat and ball.” Vijy 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Serpico said: No where have they mentioned about spinners taking wickets. The pitch didn't behave properly on day 1 with uneven bounce. You can see pitch breaking up and dust exploding from second session itself. That is the main problem. An office bearer of the Karnataka State Cricket Association (KSCA) in the past, Srinath felt "the pitch offered a lot of turn on the first day itself and though it improved with every session, in my view, it was not an even contest between bat and ball," as per an ICC media release. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/bengaluru-pitch-gets-below-average-rating-from-icc-match-referee-1306574 This is what was on cricinfo. Uneven bounce is not reason for pitch to be rated poor. It was not dangerous .Pitch became progressive better , there is no rule that pitch has to favor batting on day one. Edited March 23, 2022 by putrevus Lord 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 19 hours ago, Vijy said: he didn't score much beyond a ton. and those pitches were too bowler friendly. someone like root should not be getting cheap 5-fers Root got that in pink ball Test which I already mentioned. No.7 wont get much beyond a ton anyway. Had to slog as it was last wicket. Eng batting against spin is not the criteria to judge the pitch. putrevus 1 Link to comment
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