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President rule in Bengal, need of the hour!!

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13 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

When most channel debating bengal violence...check NDTVs prime time debate today:

 

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And still chutiya rubbish has gall to say that people are brain washed aur muddo ko dabaya ja raha hai. Why don't people tweet him directly and why he is not beating his chest for Bengal violence like he did for hathras.

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1 hour ago, raki05 said:

And still chutiya rubbish has gall to say that people are brain washed aur muddo ko dabaya ja raha hai. Why don't people tweet him directly and why he is not beating his chest for Bengal violence like he did for hathras.

People don’t watch NDTV anymore. It’s  surviving because of relation with International Interested partiies. They will keep it up and running till they find alternative to it

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On 3/22/2022 at 6:14 AM, raki05 said:

 

 

It is India's grave misfortune that West Bengal has been run by traitors. 

 

First, the communist dogs whose hearts bleed for the rabid barbaric CCP and China.

 

And then this EVIL vicious bi^^tch . She is an evil incarnate who deserves capital punishment for killing 1000s of hindus for her lust for power.

 

In all the communal violence across India - this is a rare exception where a Hindu by birth ( it is a disgrace to call this piece of filth Mamata a Hindu ) is getting Hindus killed.

 

As @ravishingravi said , ballot politics will not work here with the terror that has been inflicted on BJP workers. 

 

Brute force is required, to retaliate and strike the fear of death among TMC workers. 

 

let the evil  bi^^tch mamata moan, cry and die.  

 

 

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9 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

But Modi govt is also to be blamed here. They seem to wet their pants whenever they had to deal with Mamta Banerjee.

 

Sirf kadi ninda karne se kuch nehi hoga...disperse army and drag her from CM seat and put behind the bars.  She is a blot to Indian democracy. 

 

 

They are not afraid of this EVIL BI^^tch Mamata.

 

They are afraid of what the foreign press will say about them. They don't seem to get it that the foreign press are not well wishers of India but have a huge malefic agenda.

 

Brute military force is the answer.  Senior influential TMC MLAs  must start fearing for their lives and quit the party.

 

The answer to  brute violence is much more brutal and terrifying violence with the full force of central govt - if this does not happen - expect bengal to become another Kashmir.

 

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What's the story of this violence ? Who killed the TMC MLA and who was killed as retaliation ? Didn't see the facts being reported in headlines, maybe I missed them or they're not reported clearly since its a secular crime.

 

Central gormint obviously can't use official means to impose president's rule as of now, it will mean "death of democracy" in the media locally & internationally. Other ways such as bankrupting the criminal party and its head goons as well as putting them behind bars on suitable charges will have have to be attempted. If one can remove article 370 legally, there have to be ways to cleanse WB one step at a time. 

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42 minutes ago, Clarke said:

What's the story of this violence ? Who killed the TMC MLA and who was killed as retaliation ? Didn't see the facts being reported in headlines, maybe I missed them or they're not reported clearly since its a secular crime.

 

Central gormint obviously can't use official means to impose president's rule as of now, it will mean "death of democracy" in the media locally & internationally. Other ways such as bankrupting the criminal party and its head goons as well as putting them behind bars on suitable charges will have have to be attempted. If one can remove article 370 legally, there have to be ways to cleanse WB one step at a time. 

 

a muslim TMC leader was killed in a bomb attack- in retaliation his supporters started violence against a rival muslim faction and the people who were burnt alive were muslims too- thats why media is quiet....

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President's Rule should NOT be imposed in WB. And I am saying this not because I feel the law and order situation is good there. In fact, it has gone to the dogs. TMC has successfully acquired all CPM goons and added some more of their own. In fact, WB is a perfect example of a failed state where unionism, communism combined to create a deadly cocktail that wiped out all capitalism. When Bengalis voted for a change from the Left, they picked an even more leftist party. Nobody can help them honestly.

 

But the reason why President's Rule should not be imposed is that if it is, then it will enable Mamta to use the victim card and further propel theories of democracy not being respected under Modi government. She will use that to galvanize support for 2024 and could even become a serious candidate. Indira Gandhi similarly had exploited the victim card back in 1980 to get back to power and people promptly forgot all the atrocities from the emergency. Hence, let WB deal with the problems. Summon Mamta to the center and ask questions, but don't do something as drastic as President's Rule.

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32 minutes ago, Texan said:

President's Rule should NOT be imposed in WB. And I am saying this not because I feel the law and order situation is good there. In fact, it has gone to the dogs. TMC has successfully acquired all CPM goons and added some more of their own. In fact, WB is a perfect example of a failed state where unionism, communism combined to create a deadly cocktail that wiped out all capitalism. When Bengalis voted for a change from the Left, they picked an even more leftist party. Nobody can help them honestly.

 

But the reason why President's Rule should not be imposed is that if it is, then it will enable Mamta to use the victim card and further propel theories of democracy not being respected under Modi government. She will use that to galvanize support for 2024 and could even become a serious candidate. Indira Gandhi similarly had exploited the victim card back in 1980 to get back to power and people promptly forgot all the atrocities from the emergency. Hence, let WB deal with the problems. Summon Mamta to the center and ask questions, but don't do something as drastic as President's Rule.

People of Bengal need to realize what is happening there and wake up and demand change. Can't do much without that. They are so happy about giving BJP the middle finger and so being "secular" that they don't realize that they are not far from a Bengal Files like situation. Was Kashmir the same? In the name of Kashmiriyat - did the Hindus of Kashmir always think that the excesses of the Islamists were ok? 

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Bhadralokis deserve this.

 

They have always had this fake superiority complex about their "kaalchaar" .The only kaalchaar they have is what the Brits gave them and now they think they are the ones that civilized India lol.

 

Bangladesh gaya,waste Bengal bhi jaayega and they will come to western states and give their gyan of secularism. Inko aloo aur maach khilao bad itna hi chaahiye.

 

 

 

 

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I think Modi gvmnt is very weak when it comes to using the stick of President rule to keep state CM under check. I am hoping that after re-election of Modi, this stick will be used in some states to get law and order sorted

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On 3/25/2022 at 4:00 AM, Yoda-esque said:

Bhadralokis deserve this.

 

They have always had this fake superiority complex about their "kaalchaar" .The only kaalchaar they have is what the Brits gave them and now they think they are the ones that civilized India lol.

 

Bangladesh gaya,waste Bengal bhi jaayega and they will come to western states and give their gyan of secularism. Inko aloo aur maach khilao bad itna hi chaahiye.

 

 

 

 

 

as much I agree with your sentiments im not advocating sitting and watching a second genocide happening in WB against hindus like what happened in Kashmir.. the central gov has the power to step in NOW before massacres start to happen. Bhad me gaya democracy and western approval

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On 3/25/2022 at 1:01 AM, mishra said:

I think Modi gvmnt is very weak when it comes to using the stick of President rule to keep state CM under check. I am hoping that after re-election of Modi, this stick will be used in some states to get law and order sorted

 

Is President's rule a long term solution ? 

 

Till Mamata is alive and in active politics with and TMC the party with its goons is still functional --- what difference 6 months of President's rule going to make ? 

 

She has made the entire state a magnet for illegal immigrants and veering towards becoming another Kashmir.

 

If the 6 months of President's rule can be used to wipe out TMC from the grassroots  - it is a different matter.  Ultimately  - that is the only thing that can save Bengal.

 

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2 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Is President's rule a long term solution ? 

 

Till Mamata is alive and in active politics with and TMC the party with its goons is still functional --- what difference 6 months of President's rule going to make ? 

 

She has made the entire state a magnet for illegal immigrants and veering towards becoming another Kashmir.

 

If the 6 months of President's rule can be used to wipe out TMC from the grassroots  - it is a different matter.  Ultimately  - that is the only thing that can save Bengal.

 

Not happening unless the ppl of Bengal support that. Ppl of Bengal are too "secular" for that. They want to be under TMC and revel in having a govt that is diff from the rest of the country. It feeds into their superiority complex of being different from the rest of India.

 

Bengal desperately needs a local face to lead the change for a development oriented Bengal.

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5 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Is President's rule a long term solution ? 

 

Till Mamata is alive and in active politics with and TMC the party with its goons is still functional --- what difference 6 months of President's rule going to make ? 

 

She has made the entire state a magnet for illegal immigrants and veering towards becoming another Kashmir.

 

If the 6 months of President's rule can be used to wipe out TMC from the grassroots  - it is a different matter.  Ultimately  - that is the only thing that can save Bengal.

 

thats what president rule should be used for. Lets not just assume that Bhadalok's are voting TMC for sake of being different. The fear plays big role. It  is similar to tthe fear of Communist cadres at vvillage and grassroot level in Jyoti babus era of Bengal rule.

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10 hours ago, mishra said:

thats what president rule should be used for. Lets not just assume that Bhadalok's are voting TMC for sake of being different. The fear plays big role. It  is similar to tthe fear of Communist cadres at vvillage and grassroot level in Jyoti babus era of Bengal rule.

 

10 hours ago, mishra said:

thats what president rule should be used for. Lets not just assume that Bhadalok's are voting TMC for sake of being different. The fear plays big role. It  is similar to tthe fear of Communist cadres at vvillage and grassroot level in Jyoti babus era of Bengal rule.


All the opposition parties will say this is like imposing an emergency in the country - because they fear it will happen to them too.

 

The hypocritical western media will liken to us becoming a dictatorial country that is decimating the opposition.

 

We have to have plans to counter all that. 
 

There are too many rogue opposition parties in India who are happy to damage and even bleed  India so long as they benefit politically - all of them will rally for TMC. 
 

Congress, NCP, Shiv Sena, AAP…. Etc etc 

 

But unfortunately the only answer is FORCE  - extraordinarily brute force. 
 

TMC has to be erased. The remnants of CPI has to be erased. 
 

For a so called intellectual state - Bengalis are the dumbest morons when it comes to political choice for growth, betterment and welfare. 

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On 3/28/2022 at 11:04 AM, rangeelaraja said:

 


All the opposition parties will say this is like imposing an emergency in the country - because they fear it will happen to them too.

 

The hypocritical western media will liken to us becoming a dictatorial country that is decimating the opposition.

 

We have to have plans to counter all that. 
 

There are too many rogue opposition parties in India who are happy to damage and even bleed  India so long as they benefit politically - all of them will rally for TMC. 
 

Congress, NCP, Shiv Sena, AAP…. Etc etc 

 

But unfortunately the only answer is FORCE  - extraordinarily brute force. 
 

TMC has to be erased. The remnants of CPI has to be erased. 
 

For a so called intellectual state - Bengalis are the dumbest morons when it comes to political choice for growth, betterment and welfare. 

There are  many nuances. Let's cover one by one.

1. In Bengal there is no industrial development despite boasting large human capital excellent literacy..great educational environment. Urban educated Bengalis realize this and will gladly welcome change 

2. Rural Bengal on the other hand is Mamatas strength as she has done a lot there including the Modi style of sops rations etc.

 

3. Third, Bengal will be very proud of their culture and language due to the superiority complex and quite similar to southern states. So having the coarseness and vulgarity of hatred also spewed above in this thread will get rejected.

 

To beat mamata.the language of development spearheaded by someone from the land will work better than bringing Ram against Durga or Kali..insulting women and trying to use the age old tactic of sparking communal tension..will not work...buy mamata is apopulist with no development or any idea..use that to beat her..looking forward to jt

 

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10 hours ago, straighttalk said:

There are  many nuances. Let's cover one by one.

1. In Bengal there is no industrial development despite boasting large human capital excellent literacy..great educational environment. Urban educated Bengalis realize this and will gladly welcome change 

2. Rural Bengal on the other hand is Mamatas strength as she has done a lot there including the Modi style of sops rations etc.

 

3. Third, Bengal will be very proud of their culture and language due to the superiority complex and quite similar to southern states. So having the coarseness and vulgarity of hatred also spewed above in this thread will get rejected.

 

To beat mamata.the language of development spearheaded by someone from the land will work better than bringing Ram against Durga or Kali..insulting women and trying to use the age old tactic of sparking communal tension..will not work...buy mamata is apopulist with no development or any idea..use that to beat her..looking forward to jt

 


 

Sorry, you are are missing a lot of the reality.

 

She has created an environment of fear and terror - culture, language etc does not matter when people who campaign for BJP are killed in broad day light and the local police does nothing. Absolutely nothing. 

 

Did you see how they bullied the Vice chancellor of a major university ? The sheer audacity in inflicting terror in broad daylight is staggering. 
 

Did you know thousands of panchayat seats went uncontested against TMC out of sheer fear ? 
 

The rate at which demography  is changing in Bengal - she is creating another Kashmir. 
 

Sorry, but TMC workers who are responsible for the condition of the stage have to be eliminated extra judicially - by the 100s. 
 

The thought of those  people burnt alive by TMC goons still haunts me. These are not even humans. Hope Mamata dies the most miserable and gruesome painful death. 
 

She is the worst form of evil incarnate.

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8 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:


 

Sorry, you are are missing a lot of the reality.

 

She has created an environment of fear and terror - culture, language etc does not matter when people who campaign for BJP are killed in broad day light and the local police does nothing. Absolutely nothing. 

 

Did you see how they bullied the Vice chancellor of a major university ? The sheer audacity in inflicting terror in broad daylight is staggering. 
 

Did you know thousands of panchayat seats went uncontested against TMC out of sheer fear ? 
 

The rate at which demography  is changing in Bengal - she is creating another Kashmir. 
 

Sorry, but TMC workers who are responsible for the condition of the stage have to be eliminated extra judicially - by the 100s. 
 

The thought of those  people burnt alive by TMC goons still haunts me. These are not even humans. Hope Mamata dies the most miserable and gruesome painful death. 
 

She is the worst form of evil incarnate.

Ya she is a goon. But such goons are present in many states. Some goons kill opposition workers like bjp. Some goons kill people of another religion in the name of some God. Some goons kill innocents because someone shot dead a PM in 1984.

Calling for mass murder because of actions of few is only going to destroy a society from within. The communist did the same and mamata was able to defeat. Mamata can also be beaten democratically. Same for Modi too as he is more vulnerable economically. In politics no one is infallible.

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