Adamant Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 The pacers should be - Bumrah Umran/ Siraj Chahar/Harshal. speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 13 hours ago, DarkProfile said: Or, will you simply wait for them to complete their 15 years of international cricket and then retire them out? how sure are you that they will never perform again ??? if you are then stick by it , im sticking by that they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 18 hours ago, express bowling said: T20 league cricket all over the world is a combination of business and frivolous entertainment. Top players know it. Some fans don't. Let me pose this question to you: Bumrah has to bowl four overs at full potential. That is four overs every 4-5 days. Does that really take that much of a toll on him? He is our premium strike bowler and there is a legacy, of his own creation, that he must live up to. DarkProfile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Let me pose this question to you: Bumrah has to bowl four overs at full potential. That is four overs every 4-5 days. Does that really take that much of a toll on him? He is our premium strike bowler and there is a legacy, of his own creation, that he must live up to. Then give him 2 overs with the new ball ( and he can bowl his customary 2 overs st the death ). I have been strongly advocating this from MI's 2nd game itself. He is India's premier fast bowler and must be treated as such. He once refered to himself as the Lion. Make him feel like a Lion and he will roar. Top pacers need spells to get into rhythm. They need to feel pride to give that extra something. The nerds advocating matchups and 1 over spells to avoid the batsmen getting into a groove are also preventing the quick bowlers from getting into their grooves. In the last match, when Bumrah got the new ball, he bowled a very dangerous snd nasty over to Rayudu who was super lucky to survive. Let this continue for 2 or 3 games snd you may see the difference. The captain must use him as a strike bowler upfront and not as a part time bowler bowling a couple of low profile middle overs. Instill the pride and passion. Edited April 22, 2022 by express bowling DarkProfile, rollingstoned, Mosher and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, express bowling said: Then give him 2 overs with the new ball ( and he can bowl his customary 2 overs st the death ). I have been strongly advocating this from MI's 2nd game itself. He is India's premier fast bowler and must be treated as such. He once refered to himself as the Lion. Make him feel like a Lion and he will roar. Top pacers need spells to get into rhythm. They need to feel pride to give that extra something. The nerds advocating matchups and 1 over spells to avoid the batsmen getting into a groove are also preventing the quick bowlers from getting into their grooves. In the last match, when Bumrah got the new ball, he bowled a very dangerous snd nasty over to Rayudu who was super lucky to survive. Let this continue for 2 or 3 games snd you may see the difference. The captain must use him as a strike bowler upfront and not as a part time bowler bowling a couple of low profile middle overs. Instill the pride and passion. This aspect was demonstrated sgain by how Pant handled Khaleel today. Khaleel was totally bamboozling Buttler in his 1st over eith outswing at sharp pace. Was removed after just 1 over. and part timer Lalit Yadav was brought in for 2 overs. Buttler got set The ball stopped swinging. And when he came back he was hit for 2 sixes. Taking multiple wickets upfront is still the best way to win T20s ... and that happens on most days when the strike bowlers bowl upfront. Mosher, DarkProfile, Lone Wolf and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Kkr game tomorrow. Let's see what pace Mavi bowls. I hope he will again be looking to win fastest delivery award. Suhaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkProfile Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, express bowling said: This aspect was demonstrated sgain by how Pant handled Khaleel today. Khaleel was totally bamboozling Buttler in his 1st over eith outswing at sharp pace. Was removed after just 1 over. and part timer Lalit Yadav was brought in for 2 overs. Buttler got set The ball stopped swinging. And when he came back he was hit for 2 sixes. Taking multiple wickets upfront is still the best way to win T20s ... and that happens on most days when the strike bowlers bowl upfront. Williamson lets Jansen bowl 2-3 overs on the trot. Pant hasn't yet impressed me with his captaincy. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Harshal Bumrah Umran Chahar Chahal Backups-prasidh,khaleel,bhuvi,jaddu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 9:58 AM, express bowling said: Then give him 2 overs with the new ball ( and he can bowl his customary 2 overs st the death ). I have been strongly advocating this from MI's 2nd game itself. He is India's premier fast bowler and must be treated as such. He once refered to himself as the Lion. Make him feel like a Lion and he will roar. Top pacers need spells to get into rhythm. They need to feel pride to give that extra something. The nerds advocating matchups and 1 over spells to avoid the batsmen getting into a groove are also preventing the quick bowlers from getting into their grooves. In the last match, when Bumrah got the new ball, he bowled a very dangerous snd nasty over to Rayudu who was super lucky to survive. Let this continue for 2 or 3 games snd you may see the difference. The captain must use him as a strike bowler upfront and not as a part time bowler bowling a couple of low profile middle overs. Instill the pride and passion. it goes both ways though. as India's premier fast bowler, he needs to step up. instead, what comes to my mind on the big occasion is him bottling it - WTC vs NZ, CT vs Pak, and so on. It may be harsh, but I consider there is some truth in this assessment. DarkProfile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lone Wolf Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Next T20 series vs SA should be specifically used to find ideal partners for Bumrah. I think Umran Prasidh Nattu.. All three need to be used. Shami experiment has to end. He plays no T20Is & suddenly finds himself in WT20 squads. That agenda that he is India's 2nd best bowler also needs to stop. Mixing of formats has hurt India so bad that we have continued botching ICC trophies non stop. Vijy and DarkProfile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MK55 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 The bowlers that have impressed me this season (so far) have been Prasidh and Umran. Prasidh has found some aggression and thats a required trait for fast bowlers. It plays on the psyche of the batsmen affecting their focus. Also, the bowler is then charged up to get back at the batsmen the next delivery after he gets hit. Even Siraj became more effective last year when he became more agressive. Siraj has been disappointing so far. No impact. Bumrah hasn't got wickets but he bowled pretty well today especially at the death. I'm not worried about his form at all. He just needs to be well rested so that he's fresh. They should probably give him some days off now that MI is totally out of contention. I expect the selection to be Natarajan, BK, PRasidh, Bumrah although I would want Bumrah, Prasidh, Umran, Natarajan. They shoudn;t waste too much time on Umran and get him in the team asap. For test match selection, I can understand as his body needs to get accustomed to that kind of workload but not for LOIs. Even Steyn has said, they shouldn't make him wait too much. express bowling, Mosher, Suhaan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 hours ago, MK55 said: The bowlers that have impressed me this season (so far) have been Prasidh and Umran. Prasidh has found some aggression and thats a required trait for fast bowlers. It plays on the psyche of the batsmen affecting their focus. Also, the bowler is then charged up to get back at the batsmen the next delivery after he gets hit. Even Siraj became more effective last year when he became more agressive. Siraj has been disappointing so far. No impact. Bumrah hasn't got wickets but he bowled pretty well today especially at the death. I'm not worried about his form at all. He just needs to be well rested so that he's fresh. They should probably give him some days off now that MI is totally out of contention. I expect the selection to be Natarajan, BK, PRasidh, Bumrah although I would want Bumrah, Prasidh, Umran, Natarajan. They shoudn;t waste too much time on Umran and get him in the team asap. For test match selection, I can understand as his body needs to get accustomed to that kind of workload but not for LOIs. Even Steyn has said, they shouldn't make him wait too much. yes, Umran, Prasidh are a must, and would back up Bumrah. Nattu and Khaleel should be in the mix since they both offer something different than the norm. I would still have one trundler in the squad who can bat like Deepak C (PP specialist) or Harshal (death over specialist) express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Vijy said: yes, Umran, Prasidh are a must, and would back up Bumrah. Nattu and Khaleel should be in the mix since they both offer something different than the norm. I would still have one trundler in the squad who can bat like Deepak C (PP specialist) or Harshal (death over specialist) Could umran become even better than bumrah shami in tests? That would be some sight. So far he has been poor in first class but that's on shitty patta pitches. Remember he hasn't learnt reverse swing etc and all the other tricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, Jay said: Could umran become even better than bumrah shami in tests? That would be some sight. So far he has been poor in first class but that's on shitty patta pitches. Remember he hasn't learnt reverse swing etc and all the other tricks. the thread was on T20s alone; my comments also on that format. otherwise, I would not recommend khaleel at all for tests, and not nattu either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Wow just wow..........5.6 eco at death is champion stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Wow just wow..........5.6 eco at death is champion stuff 66 in 9 overs is 7.33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Bumrah Natarajan Arshdeep as our frontline; Prasidh as the attacking option. Would that be ok with the selectors, if they can overcome the under/non performing trundler quota ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Bumrah Prasidh Umran Chahal Sundar Chahar Natrajan Krunal as backup Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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