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Building a bowling attack for this year t20 Wc


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10 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

I'd say Khaleel has been most impressive Indian pacer on display.  Showing control with both new ball & older ball.  Best left arm pacer in the country who gets good bounce from his hard lengths. 

 

Bumrah 

Harshal

Deepak/Umesh (new ball) 

Khaleel

 

These are my top 4 picks right now. 

If Khaleel is the most impressive Indian pacer than our bowling lineup is really heading towards a new low. 

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11 hours ago, express bowling said:

Keeping in mind the flat and bouncy Australian pitches 

 

My pool   (  as of today, may change later on )

 

 

In the playing 11

 

6. Hardik

7. Jadeja

8. Harshal

9. Bumrah

10. Chahal

11. Prasidh

 

 

Shami

Deepak

Sen ... early days and this may change

Axar / Washington 

 

 

 

why Shami?

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23 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

why Shami?

 

 

The composition that I have gone gone for regarding specialist pacers is ....

 

1)   Quick bowler who can take wickets upfront. [  Prasidh and his bounce is a big plus in Australia ... backup Shami  ]

 

2)  Quick bowler with good yorker and death bowling skills  [  Bumrah ... backup Sen if he continues to perform and develop  ]

 

3)   Death over specislist who can bat and hit at 8 too  [   Harshal ... poor backup in Deepak as no one else is there ]

 

 

Shami and Umesh are the 2 backups for this role at 1)   ... and I trust Shami more.

 

 

 

 

 

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The way Pandya is bowling, first name in my side. 
 

No Shami in T20 please. Weird I was asking for him to be included in the last one and people were arguing against it but finally I have given up on Shami and people

want him in WT20 in Aus?

 

Shami will be more effective in Odi and T20 in Sc. In Aus he will be cannon fodder apart from maybe the first 1-2 overs in suitable conditons.

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2 minutes ago, maniac said:

The way Pandya is bowling, first name in my side. 
 

No Shami in T20 please. Weird I was asking for him to be included in the last one and people were arguing against it but finally I have given up on Shami and people

want him in WT20 in Aus?

 

Shami will be more effective in Odi and T20 in Sc. In Aus he will be cannon fodder apart from maybe the first 1-2 overs in suitable conditons.

 

no way he can make it as bowler or batter alone. Batting needs to pick up and biggest thing he needs to stay fit

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Just now, Lord said:

 

no way he can make it as bowler or batter alone. Batting needs to pick up and biggest thing he needs to stay fit

Pandya is always a 5th bowler at best. If he can bowl like this then we can accommodate a Sundar who has utility in PP or even take chance with specialist bowlers like Kuldeep Yadav etc  to without shoving Jadeja down our throats for batting line up. Gives us so much flexibility. He only gave flexibility on paper so far except May be the WC in 2019 where he was more than useful even though didn’t set the tournament on fire.

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2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Pandya is always a 5th bowler at best. If he can bowl like this then we can accommodate a Sundar who has utility in PP or even take chance with specialist bowlers like Kuldeep Yadav etc  to without shoving Jadeja down our throats for batting line up. Gives us so much flexibility. He only gave flexibility on paper so far except May be the WC in 2019 where he was more than useful even though didn’t set the tournament on fire.

 

That's why his batting needs to do better.When last did he play a quick knock? Eng series?

 

Venky if he bats quicker/better should be preferred. Bowling is just to fill overs

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5 hours ago, express bowling said:

Shami

shami has never ever been good in t20, every time he does well in IPL and goes back to international its same dhawan story .  After a point shami is easier to lineup in t20 which has been his downfall in t20 , same jadeja the bowler.

Both are predioctable and doesnt vary their lengths much neither have much variety in their bowling . 

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This generic approach is exactly why we failed in the previous T20 WC. See my post:

 

I'd rather do tactical match-ups against individual teams and select players that fit the profile.

 

Pakistan

Kuldeep Yadav should be in the playing XI given his psychological edge over Babar. He's in great form as well.

We can troll the preparation of their batsmen by substituting Bumrah, who anyway has a poor track record against them, with another bowler who fits against some key weakness of their top-order.

 

My approach would be something like this:

 

1) Line up the batsmen of each team that we play in league phase.

2) Do data analysis to find the key weakness of their batsmen - bounce, pace, swing, right-arm, left-arm, leg-spin, fast spin, etc.

3) Then, assemble an abstract lineup of bowlers (one leg-spinner, one left arm fast with specialty in bounce or swing, etc.) who fit the match-ups in stage 2.

4) Now, this is the stage where I would ponder over the concrete names from the pool of bowlers available to us.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Lord said:

 

That's why his batting needs to do better.When last did he play a quick knock? Eng series?

 

Venky if he bats quicker/better should be preferred. Bowling is just to fill overs

 

Exactly. Bowling 4 overs should not be a criteria.  He has to be absolutely gun in one department. He can even bowl part time. But his batting has to be way better than this. Indian fast bowling is unsettled despite we have plethora of fast bowler due to lack of wicket taking skills.  Honestly not a single guy can take wickets with new ball. Chahar when there is a bit on the offer.  Thakur flukes a wicket here and there. Shami in his prime a wicket taker. But he is the biggest double edged sword. So keep him away.  Keep Harshal for death overs if he sustains his form.  Bumrah. Then third seamer has to be Chahar. But i know they will go with Bhuvi :( .  India is going to be a uber pathetic batting side in the world T20. So let us bolster the bowling. Go with two leggies. Kuldeep/Chahal. 

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6 hours ago, maniac said:

Pandya is always a 5th bowler at best. If he can bowl like this then we can accommodate a Sundar who has utility in PP or even take chance with specialist bowlers like Kuldeep Yadav etc  to without shoving Jadeja down our throats for batting line up. Gives us so much flexibility. He only gave flexibility on paper so far except May be the WC in 2019 where he was more than useful even though didn’t set the tournament on fire.

 

1 month before world t20 he will be injured lol India will scamper for an all rounder.  We have seen this circus twice.  

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6. Hardik

7. Jadeja

8. Harshal

9. <<Undecided>>

10. Kuldeep Yadav

11. Bumrah

 

<<Undecided>> = Between Deepak Chahar, Umesh and Shami. Possibly even Prasidh. It would depend on how well one of these guys performs in the remaining games. Chahar first needs to be fit of course.

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1 hour ago, Texan said:

6. Hardik

7. Jadeja

8. Harshal

9. <<Undecided>>

10. Kuldeep Yadav

11. Bumrah

 

<<Undecided>> = Between Deepak Chahar, Umesh and Shami. Possibly even Prasidh. It would depend on how well one of these guys performs in the remaining games. Chahar first needs to be fit of course.

but the wickets in australia will be different though? being good on indian pitches will not make said bowler effective in aus and vice versa. have to look at skills mainly. thakur prasidh bumrah should definitely be in. 

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