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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

one of the reasons is teams looking to play him out without taking risk which they are even doing it to harshal this yr

With someone of bumrah ability i beilieve numbers shudnt be taken srsly

 

Harshal has a far superior economy than Bumrah in the deaths. Even if batsman are not taking risks against Bumrah and he is not getting wickets, why is his economy 9 in the middle and death overs? That's plain mediocre.

 

What good is an ability if it does not reflect in numbers? As I said earlier, show me past instances of Bumrah's "ability" in T20Is. He's a solid bowler in ODIs and Tests, and has numbers to back him up. But he is mediocre in T20Is. Let's not confuse formats, alright?

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Harshal has a far superior economy than Bumrah in the deaths. Even if batsman are not taking risks against Bumrah and he is not getting wickets, why is his economy 9 in the middle and death overs? That's plain mediocre.

 

What good is an ability if it does not reflect in numbers? As I said earlier, show me past instances of Bumrah's "ability" in T20Is. He's a solid bowler in ODIs and Tests, and has numbers to back him up. But he is mediocre in T20Is. Let's not confuse formats, alright?

coz when uplay for long time numbers will never be always high. In t20 form can come n go anytime but ability remains same 

If teams will just be selected on pure numbers it will end up quite poor coz number depends on many factors . Like Harshal in RCB has a very good suppourt attack whereas bumrah has a horrible suppourt attack 

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29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

coz when uplay for long time numbers will never be always high. In t20 form can come n go anytime but ability remains same 

If teams will just be selected on pure numbers it will end up quite poor coz number depends on many factors . Like Harshal in RCB has a very good suppourt attack whereas bumrah has a horrible suppourt attack 

 

The same argument can be used for Kohli and Sharma as well. So, how do you draw the line? You keep playing them hoping that one day they'll strike the form?

 

And what about those players who are consistently producing good numbers, but are not given a chance because of the invisible ability of Sharma, Kohli and Bumrah?

 

And if Bumrah's ability depends on the support of other bowlers, then I doubt if it can be really termed as ability. Also, Unadkat can make the same excuse. Bumrah is not supporting me with wickets, so what can I do?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, DarkProfile said:

The same argument can be used for Kohli and Sharma as well. So, how do you draw the line? You keep playing them hoping that one day they'll strike the form?

ill back them to , i backed warner to come good in last yr t20 Wc when he was struggling in IPL coz form can change quickly in t20

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7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Cant ignore Khaleel now, game after game he is showing great signs. Last nite his bouncer to SRK was so good . He is an all phase bowler as well 

 

Has he done well in death,specially defending under pressure?

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15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ill back them to , i backed warner to come good in last yr t20 Wc when he was struggling in IPL coz form can change quickly in t20

 

So, if not form and numbers, then what is the criteria of selecting and dropping players? Ask Sharma ji's parrot to pick up the names?

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8 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

5 overs is too less. Any bowling second and defending something chaseable?

 

He typically bowls 1-2-1 or 2-1-1. Not a death specialist. More of an all-phase bowler who regularly takes wicket in the PP phase of quality batsmen, in the Middle phase of set batsmen and reliable in Death to not leak too many runs. The role that is typically expected of Bumrah.

 

He also did not play all DC matches.

 

See this match: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2022-1298423/kolkata-knight-riders-vs-delhi-capitals-19th-match-1304065/full-scorecard

 

Or even this where he took out Gill and Pandya: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2022-1298423/gujarat-titans-vs-delhi-capitals-10th-match-1304056/full-scorecard

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7 minutes ago, DarkProfile said:

 

He typically bowls 1-2-1 or 2-1-1. Not a death specialist. More of an all-phase bowler who regularly takes wicket in the PP phase of quality batsmen, in the Middle phase of set batsmen and reliable in Death to not leak too many runs. The role that is typically expected of Bumrah.

 

He also did not play all DC matches.

 

See this match: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2022-1298423/kolkata-knight-riders-vs-delhi-capitals-19th-match-1304065/full-scorecard

 

Or even this where he took out Gill and Pandya: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2022-1298423/gujarat-titans-vs-delhi-capitals-10th-match-1304056/full-scorecard

 

If he makes it to our XI, he will be expected to bowl 2 overs in death. Can't give that to Chahar/Thakur.

 

Also can't call him all phase bowler unless he's reliable in death under pressure.

 

In his previous stint with India,he used to bowl lots of cutters that didnt work. I want to see if he can nail yorkers or still relies on cutters.

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6 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

If he makes it to our XI, he will be expected to bowl 2 overs in death. Can't give that to Chahar/Thakur.

 

Also can't call him all phase bowler unless he's reliable in death under pressure.

 

In his previous stint with India,he used to bowl lots of cutters that didnt work. I want to see if he can nail yorkers or still relies on cutters.

 

We'll see more of him in the death phase as the tournament progresses.

 

But in the bowling strategy I suggested in the previous page, he'll get only 1 over in the death. 2 overs each to Harshal and Nattu/Bhuvi.

 

Chahar / Thakur won't make it to my team if Pandya is playing. They leak as many runs as they make.

 

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1 hour ago, DarkProfile said:

 

We'll see more of him in the death phase as the tournament progresses.

 

But in the bowling strategy I suggested in the previous page, he'll get only 1 over in the death. 2 overs each to Harshal and Nattu/Bhuvi.

 

Chahar / Thakur won't make it to my team if Pandya is playing. They leak as many runs as they make.

 

 

who's your 5th bowler? Can't be Hardik with unsure fitness. We don't want his batting to be hampered coz of bowling

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16 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

who's your 5th bowler? Can't be Hardik with unsure fitness. We don't want his batting to be hampered coz of bowling

 

I've kept two ARs in Hardik (backup Chahar) and Sundar (backup Jaddu). Both can be used in PP and Middle phase. Hardik can bowl 1/2 overs per match. Not much to expect.

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12 minutes ago, DarkProfile said:

 

I've kept two ARs in Hardik (backup Chahar) and Sundar (backup Jaddu). Both can be used in PP and Middle phase. Hardik can bowl 1/2 overs per match. Not much to expect.

 

so Sundar will bat at 7? No thanks, I'd rather have Chahar . Can get early wickets too in those conditions

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Many of the top international players, especially pacers, don't really bowl with full intensity in T20 league cricket.

 

They are often just going through the motions, especially in the league phase. 

 

So, it's difficult to compare their performances with newer players who are competing all out to grab eyeballs. 

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