jusarrived Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Buttler obviously . KL plays like Babar Azam in PPs , its a pity cos he actually start timing the ball well from word go and he has a better range than Shaw . it should be so easy for him to give us flying starts, but for some reason chooses to play like other seniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Jos Buttler is the better t20 batsman for sure. If you have followed KL Rahul from the start you would know that he had a tight technique and was an accumulator, he was projected as an up and coming test prospect. He wasn't dynamic enough for all formats. Later on he added a whole new dimension to his game, started batting with Intent and improved his strokeplay majorly bcoz of IPL stints. Then he became a loi regular and his test game was all over the place. Now finally it looks like he has found a way to manage all formats, and I don't think he will ever bat like Buttler even though he can. He just needs to improve his game against lateral movement and that would be enough. Buttler is a serial test failure and I would rather prefer a player like KL over Buttler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Both are ultra ultimate bats. Jos is of course better cos KL has a phattu mentality. If he changes his mentality, he will be superior to Jossy. But he won't. Sad story of Indian cricket. Adamant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) When Buttler played test cricket, it did looked that he was trying hard but just not able to achieve the success at that level. He was having tough time with gloves also and it made it harder for him as he had to focus on both keeping and batting and the LOI habits of chasing wide away from body balls weren't going either. Now, England dropped him from Tests and he seems to be in a different mindset and freedom to go out and dominate in T20 cricket. Fair to say, for some players taking break or reduction of workload ( by giving up tests) does help a lot. Rahul perhaps also need that to maintain consistency in his game. Edited April 25, 2022 by Majestic DarkProfile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Both are ultra ultimate bats. Jos is of course better cos KL has a phattu mentality. If he changes his mentality, he will be superior to Jossy. But he won't. Sad story of Indian cricket. I would say KL can play Butler type of knocks in the middle order if given a chance. Butler as a LoI batter is a league ahead but overall on “talent” Rahul is above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, maniac said: I would say KL can play Butler type of knocks in the middle order if given a chance. Butler as a LoI batter is a league ahead but overall on “talent” Rahul is above Think KL is special even in LOI. It's just that he rarely powers up to his super saiyan mode while Buttler often does. He does well in middle order cos he is forced to go super saiyan. Issue is his mental block and fear of failure which is where Buttler eats him for breakfast. Edited April 25, 2022 by sensible-indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I wud take both Both opening together in t20 , will compliment each other Both in ODI at 5-6 wud be amazing (both strike at 110+ in those positions in ODI) Both have power, range and gears Kothili and Adamant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Think KL is special even in LOI. It's just that he rarely powers up to his super saiyan mode while Buttler often does. He does well in middle order cos he is forced to go super saiyan. Issue is his mental block and fear of failure which is where Buttler eats him for breakfast. most Indian batsmen are shaky at the start including Ro and Ko. Rahul has a habit of feast or famine. Either scores big or bust. However when it comes to controlled hitting when set he is as good as any. He is the closest we have to Butler who seems to be in the god zone we have seen Ro and Ko before. obviously we love foreign maal :) Edited April 25, 2022 by maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 You can say tight technique or mayiru technique. Let's be honest. Buttler is much better in LOI. Period. Kela is a better test player. I am assuming this is kela opener vs buttler If you compare kela middle order player vs buttlee then you can make a case. Kela at 5 or 4 can be as good as buttler if he goes beast mode. Consistency wise buttler is still better in loi. That's the truth. Our hitting talents suck. Have to accept that. Move on. We are a bowling nation post 2013. Too many good bowlers coming through. No more hitting talents unfortunately. Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingstoned Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, sensible-indian said: Think KL is special even in LOI. It's just that he rarely powers up to his super saiyan mode while Buttler often does. He does well in middle order cos he is forced to go super saiyan. Issue is his mental block and fear of failure which is where Buttler eats him for breakfast. I have seen this mode of his only when he is a captain in ipl. Guess he needs to be the alpha dog in the team to really bring it which he is never going to be in a batting line up with Kohli and Hitman. Leadership and responsibility makes some people more clutch than they otherwise would be. Edited April 26, 2022 by rollingstoned Kothili 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 14 hours ago, sensible-indian said: Think KL is special even in LOI. It's just that he rarely powers up to his super saiyan mode while Buttler often does. He does well in middle order cos he is forced to go super saiyan. Issue is his mental block and fear of failure which is where Buttler eats him for breakfast. he is fidgety as heck in ODI KOs. has learnt well from his senpais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 16 hours ago, maniac said: I would say KL can play Butler type of knocks in the middle order if given a chance. Butler as a LoI batter is a league ahead but overall on “talent” Rahul is above He can play butler type knock even while opening of he is given the licence. Being a captain, he is circumspect. Guy has 45 ball T20 international 100. Fastest 50 in IPL. Kothili 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: He can play butler type knock even while opening of he is given the licence. Being a captain, he is circumspect. Guy has 45 ball T20 international 100. Fastest 50 in IPL. He can but he is a mental midget. He should be permanently at 4 or 5. Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, rollingstoned said: I have seen this mode of his only when he is a captain in ipl. Guess he needs to be the alpha dog in the team to really bring it which he is never going to be in a batting line up with Kohli and Hitman. Leadership and responsibility makes some people more clutch than they otherwise would be. That's true but not sure reg KLs case. He was batting at his best under Ashwins captaincy. His batting became impact less when he became Punjab captain. He is doing much better with LSG but still nowhere close to what he can actually do. I think he should switch to middle order where his fight or flight mode gets activated. The biggest problem with Indian cricket is its obsession towards volume over impact. Bmac was probably among the lowest averaging batsman in 2015 WC but impact wise...he was right up there. Even after Dhoni's superstardom down the order, we are still obsessed about run tally. Hope kohli and Rohits retirement sparks a change. Edited April 26, 2022 by sensible-indian DarkProfile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 The one great thing is Indian fans have changed over the years. Selfish, impactless runs are getting criticized and mocked more and more these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, sensible-indian said: That's true but not sure reg KLs case. He was batting at his best under Ashwins captaincy. His batting became impact less when he became Punjab captain. He is doing much better with LSG but still nowhere close to what he can actually do. I think he should switch to middle order where his fight or flight mode gets activated. The biggest problem with Indian cricket is its obsession towards volume over impact. Bmac was probably among the lowest averaging batsman in 2015 WC but impact wise...he was right up there. Even after Dhoni's superstardom down the order, we are still obsessed about run tally. Hope kohli and Rohits retirement sparks a change. You can blame the idiotic chowdder headed Indian fan group for that. Seniority worshipping. Star worshipping culture and lastly overratinf stats beyond imagination. Complete simpletons that grovel at the feet of these stars over *ing rubbish stats. In saying that Indian team is the best test side easily. It's just that we seldom pick right selections for LOI. We cannot Carry passengers like kohli ans rohit. Enough is enough. Old farts csn * off. Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 #senior citizen repsect #stars kissing ass #stats God deserves a temple #not focusing on diet. Rohit cmon dude. Grow up. #line length pai maar. This is dying so that's good. #juniors getting dropped for favouritism Change all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Jay said: #senior citizen repsect #stars kissing ass #stats God deserves a temple #not focusing on diet. Rohit cmon dude. Grow up. #line length pai maar. This is dying so that's good. #juniors getting dropped for favouritism Change all this. what do you mean? he is growing ... his belly at a commendable rate. speedheat and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kothili Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Jos does not have to deal with weight of captaincy. He plays with freedom. KL can't take such liberties with spotty batting from LSG much like PK last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kothili Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 7:47 PM, zen said: KL should take inspiration from Buttler rather than trying to mold his approach like relics Kohli & Rohit. Butler is not a captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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