Khota Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I don't care about Apple, but Musk is also not about free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coffee_rules Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 18 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: As are Musketeers, of course. Personality cults. Someone said that this kind of thing originates with the American concept of equating wealthiness with intellect. I can’t even afford to be a Musketeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Elon musk is a hypocrite of the biggest order. This man was facing bankruptcy but sold his carbon credits to get billions of dollars in aid. Would be running a freaking farm in South Africa if it was not the generosity of west that he made his billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 DeSantis making a very smart move. It further helps his anti woke rhetoric. Apple disabled the airdrop feature in China during the protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Apple: Private Twitter: Private Their company, their rules. DeSantis is the anti-capitalist. Sounds like he wants govt regulation of what Apple can and cannot do with their products? If people want to be on Twitter, they can ditch their iPhones and buy an Android phone. Let market forces dictate whether people want to support the brave people of China to overthrow their govt. The only reason he is getting behind those brave people is because he is wedded to the anti-lockdown philosophy. Would he support them if they were Tibetans or Uighur Muslims or LGBTQ-support groups? Most certainly not. RdS is just another dictator wannabe, albeit a bit more polished than DJT. Avoid him like you'd avoid Covid. PS: FWIW, I have never owned any product emanating from the Apple-cult. Edited November 30, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict coffee_rules, Khota and Clarke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Apple: Private Twitter: Private Their company, their rules. DeSantis is the anti-capitalist. Sounds like he wants govt regulation of what Apple can and cannot do with their products? If people want to be on Twitter, they can ditch their iPhones and buy an Android phone. Let market forces dictate whether people want to support the brave people of China to overthrow their govt. The only reason he is getting behind those brave people is because he is wedded to the anti-lockdown philosophy. Would he support them if they were Tibetans or Uighur Muslims or LGBTQ-support groups? Most certainly not. RdS is just another dictator wannabe, albeit a bit more polished than DJT. Avoid him like you'd avoid Covid. Anna, even a private company which gets a lot of government protection for taxation, etc are subjected to scrutiny by the government. Especially if it gets too big and hold a monopoly in the industry. Case in point, AT&T became so big in the 80s, they were milking the public with tariffs, toll fare etc., the anti-trust laws made them disintegrate into 10 different companies, my initial employment here benefitted by such a breaking. Apple being private doesn’t mean they can have their own laws , esp when it comes to impose on public largely. This is just a d1ck measuring contest between Apple and Musk. Nobody will come out a winner. regarding rDs , don’t know much about him to fear him, but he was against any federal mandates for Covid guidelines as it was popular among Floridans. He took to being a populist. But anti-capitalist for a Republican, hard to believe. It’s the Democrats who are anti-business governed by their left fringes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Anna, even a private company which gets a lot of government protection for taxation, etc are subjected to scrutiny by the government. Especially if it gets too big and hold a monopoly in the industry. Case in point, AT&T became so big in the 80s, they were milking the public with tariffs, toll fare etc., the anti-trust laws made them disintegrate into 10 different companies, my initial employment here benefitted by such a breaking. Apple being private doesn’t mean they can have their own laws , esp when it comes to impose on public largely. This is just a d1ck measuring contest between Apple and Musk. Nobody will come out a winner. regarding rDs , don’t know much about him to fear him, but he was against any federal mandates for Covid guidelines as it was popular among Floridans. He took to being a populist. But anti-capitalist for a Republican, hard to believe. It’s the Democrats who are anti-business governed by their left fringes. Politicians, R or D, are pro-capitalist towards any industry that supports their POV (or donates to them), but anti-capitalist towards any industry that opposes their POV. He is no different. I understand some sort of regulation if the company is exercising a monopoly, wherein customers have no choice but to pay $$$$ for a particular service (like with AT&T) and cannot get it from a competitor. But not being able to access a specific SM platform on a particular brand of phone? Too bad - go get a different phone. Khota 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Politicians, R or D, are pro-capitalist towards any industry that supports their POV (or donates to them), but anti-capitalist towards any industry that opposes their POV. He is no different. I understand some sort of regulation if the company is exercising a monopoly, wherein customers have no choice but to pay $$$$ for a particular service (like with AT&T) and cannot get it from a competitor. But not being able to access a specific SM platform on a particular brand of phone? Too bad - go get a different phone. Anti-Trust written all over this. Slipper slope right there. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Anti-Trust written all over this. Slipper slope right there. Adnani has antitrust written all over it. Not this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Khota said: Adnani has antitrust written all over it. Not this. True. We don’t have such laws. Tata, Bajaj, Ambani, Mittal, Sahara have grown in this ecosystem . Adnani is just a flavor flav of the season. But we need policy decisions based on public pressure like in US. Edited December 1, 2022 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: True. We don’t have such laws. Tata, Bajaj, Ambani, Mittal, Sahara have grown in this ecosystem . Adnani is just a flavor flav of the season. But we need policy decisions based on public pressure like in US. Hope this was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 hours ago, coffee_rules said: True. We don’t have such laws. Tata, Bajaj, Ambani, Mittal, Sahara have grown in this ecosystem . Adnani is just a flavor flav of the season. But we need policy decisions based on public pressure like in US. Couldn't agree more. Just like someone mentioned US had to break Ma Bell down India needs to have true capitalism. Tatas are too big too. Problem is in India bureaucrats run the show and they don't response to public pressure. Even a sensible and middle of the road policy by PM Modi of Atamnirbhar Bharat gets bypassed by these buffoons so that they can get Phoren trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Hope this was sarcasm. Hope this was serious. If you care about India, you need to have competition. Not wealth concentrated in few hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 20 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Apple: Private Twitter: Private Their company, their rules. DeSantis is the anti-capitalist. Sounds like he wants govt regulation of what Apple can and cannot do with their products? If people want to be on Twitter, they can ditch their iPhones and buy an Android phone. Let market forces dictate whether people want to support the brave people of China to overthrow their govt. The only reason he is getting behind those brave people is because he is wedded to the anti-lockdown philosophy. Would he support them if they were Tibetans or Uighur Muslims or LGBTQ-support groups? Most certainly not. RdS is just another dictator wannabe, albeit a bit more polished than DJT. Avoid him like you'd avoid Covid. PS: FWIW, I have never owned any product emanating from the Apple-cult. Agreed. Apple does not have to amplify the hate speech platform of Twitter. Twitter will lose in courts big time. I have no ideas why desis love Elon so much. The latest wave of folks he has allowed hate their brown skin anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 20 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Anna, even a private company which gets a lot of government protection for taxation, etc are subjected to scrutiny by the government. Especially if it gets too big and hold a monopoly in the industry. Case in point, AT&T became so big in the 80s, they were milking the public with tariffs, toll fare etc., the anti-trust laws made them disintegrate into 10 different companies, my initial employment here benefitted by such a breaking. Apple being private doesn’t mean they can have their own laws , esp when it comes to impose on public largely. This is just a d1ck measuring contest between Apple and Musk. Nobody will come out a winner. regarding rDs , don’t know much about him to fear him, but he was against any federal mandates for Covid guidelines as it was popular among Floridans. He took to being a populist. But anti-capitalist for a Republican, hard to believe. It’s the Democrats who are anti-business governed by their left fringes. By market metrics Apple appendage is whole lot bigger. And they will win this bigly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 hours ago, coffee_rules said: True. We don’t have such laws. Tata, Bajaj, Ambani, Mittal, Sahara have grown in this ecosystem . Adnani is just a flavor flav of the season. But we need policy decisions based on public pressure like in US. Public pressure or oligarchic pressure? Pick your poison. Either way, rational, objective policy-making loses out. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Khota said: By market metrics Apple appendage is whole lot bigger. And they will win this bigly. In a customer centric businesses, nobody wants to lose out any customer. They will never take them for granted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Khota said: Agreed. Apple does not have to amplify the hate speech platform of Twitter. Twitter will lose in courts big time. I have no ideas why desis love Elon so much. The latest wave of folks he has allowed hate their brown skin anyway. No love, but he is riding a wave when people like him for sticking it to the establishment/ cabal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Hope this was sarcasm. not really. There are some examples in US where anti-trust has worked, but it was in the context of what you had highlighted in your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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