cric_fan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 we have been the best attack since 2015. in tests. the main format. best in the world. parkies have never been number 1. you wont know that feeling. So you sit down and eat your biryani. also, learn to bowl with a clean action. Triggered Link to comment
cric_fan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 we have been the best attack since 2015. in tests. the main format. best in the world. parkies have never been number 1. you wont know that feeling. So you sit down and eat your biryani. also, learn to bowl with a clean action. Oh and as you guys say….don’t trust the speed guns. Probably adding extra 5-10ks for show. Link to comment
Jay Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, cric_fan said: Oh and as you guys say….don’t trust the speed guns. Probably adding extra 5-10ks for show. no inbred. only you guys and pussies like aussies pad up speed guns. indians infact will reduce speed because we are realists. richest t20 league would definitely be able to afford legit speed guns. you guys suck. not my fault. pace was one thing you supposedly had. even that disappeared since 2009 infact. umesh and varun alone bowled quicker than any of your phast trundlers. now piss off. Link to comment
cric_fan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 no inbred. only you guys and pussies like aussies pad up speed guns. indians infact will reduce speed because we are realists. richest t20 league would definitely be able to afford legit speed guns. you guys suck. not my fault. pace was one thing you supposedly had. even that disappeared since 2009 infact. umesh and varun alone bowled quicker than any of your phast trundlers. now piss off. Can your choker phaaaaast bowlers do this on the world stage? Link to comment
Jay Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, cric_fan said: Can your choker phaaaaast bowlers do this on the world stage? its a *ing champions trophy. can your chuckers become world number 1 in tests? who gives a **** about champions trophy. shove it up your arse. take kohli to pakistan too please. he doesnt belong to india. Link to comment
cric_fan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 its a *ing champions trophy. can your chuckers become world number 1 in tests? who gives a **** about champions trophy. shove it up your arse. take kohli to pakistan too please. he doesnt belong to india. Ahahaahahah this guy is very angry. Hilarious! Calm down bruv.….you are not the first country to produce a express pacer…maybe ICC should give you a medal for finally producing one? Link to comment
Jay Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, cric_fan said: Ahahaahahah this guy is very angry. Hilarious! Calm down bruv. ….you are not the first country to produce a express pacer…maybe ICC should give you a medal for finally producing one? i am calm bruv. pakistan is the best at chucking yes. Link to comment
Adamant Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Norman said: Eng and Nz were garbage back then. Beating them at their home was the equivalent of beating West Indies in WI these days. Try harder. 90s england test team was better than the current one or the 2018 one. I don't need to try, these are pure facts. Norman 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Vijy said: Falsehood propagator. Mohd Shami and Bumrah are better than Gillespie. Shami isn't better than Gillespie. Bumrah has played 29 tests, he needs to play atleast 50 before he can be compared. Link to comment
Majestic Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) Kapil Dev is definitely better than Gillispie. He was the highest wicket taker in his time like Anderson is today. I would have him among top 20 greatest bowlers of all-time. Shami will be in the league of Hazelwood and Gillispie. Bumrah, let's wait for 2 more years. Edited May 5, 2022 by Majestic singhvivek141 and Vijy 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Adamant said: Express pacers who averaged below 30 in test cricket - Akhtar 25.7 Bond 23 Thomson Roberts Holding And?? You skipped the fast category Ian Bishop Dale Steyn Morne Morkel Curtly Ambrose was 140-145 when he was young Glenn Macgrath was fast for most of the years Damien Fleming IMO was quick as well Imran Khan was regarded as fast Allan Donald Nantie Hayward Winston Benjamin Josh Hazelwood Mitchell Starc Pat Cummins Edited May 5, 2022 by singhvivek141 express bowling 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, cric_fan said: Indians finally start to produce fast bowlers and are getting cocky. Sit down. Indians produce better Batsman, Spinners and now fast bowlers as well. We can afford to get cocky as we don't have chuckers like Ajmal, Hasnain, Hafeez or Match Fixers like Amir, Asif, Sharjeel, Salman etc. Edited May 5, 2022 by singhvivek141 Vijy 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Adamant said: Shami isn't better than Gillespie. Bumrah has played 29 tests, he needs to play atleast 50 before he can be compared. Tests Shami : Strike rate 49 Gillespie : Strike rate 55 ODI Shami : Strike rate 27 Gillespie : Strike rate 36 Shami's worst strike rate in tests is in England (67). Gillespie's worst strike rate in Tests is in NewZealand (91) and Srilanka (73) Shami defeats Gillespie in terms of Strike rate. He picks up wickets at a faster rate than Gillespie in both tests and ODI's Vijy and express bowling 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, cric_fan said: Calm down. Why are you so angry? You like to dish it but can’t take a bit of banter in return? Umesh & Varun ahahaa. Phuddu bowlers. Sit down. You can counter the arguments without using such words against the players. There is a way to give response to someone, without using abusive words. But it seems you're not inept in it. express bowling 1 Link to comment
cric_fan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 You can counter the arguments without using such words against the players. There is a way to give response to someone, without using abusive words. But it seems you're not inept in it.Check your mate@Jay derogatory abuse towards me before commenting. Ok? Link to comment
Vijy Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Adamant said: Shami isn't better than Gillespie. Bumrah has played 29 tests, he needs to play atleast 50 before he can be compared. shami is better. for 1st half of his career, he played on roads with little to no support. whereas gillespie had outstanding support (warne + mcg + miller/fleming/mcgill/lee) and helpful home pitches. moreover, if we remove bumrah for not playing 50 tests, one should remove shoaib, cummins, bond, etc. since they didn't cross 50 tests as well. 50 is an arbitrary number. Edited May 6, 2022 by Vijy express bowling 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Adamant said: 90s england test team was better than the current one or the 2018 one. I don't need to try, these are pure facts. No they weren't you noob simpleton. Link to comment
Adamant Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Tests Shami : Strike rate 49 Gillespie : Strike rate 55 ODI Shami : Strike rate 27 Gillespie : Strike rate 36 Shami's worst strike rate in tests is in England (67). Gillespie's worst strike rate in Tests is in NewZealand (91) and Srilanka (73) Shami defeats Gillespie in terms of Strike rate. He picks up wickets at a faster rate than Gillespie in both tests and ODI's Why are you considering strike rates and not averages? If strike rate is the measure then Waqar >Wasim, Mcgrath, Marshall. Edited May 6, 2022 by Adamant Link to comment
Adamant Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Vijy said: shami is better. for 1st half of his career, he played on roads with little to no support. whereas gillespie had outstanding support (warne + mcg + miller/fleming/mcgill/lee) and helpful home pitches. moreover, if we remove bumrah for not playing 50 tests, one should remove shoaib, cummins, bond, etc. since they didn't cross 50 tests as well. 50 is an arbitrary number. I didn't mention Cummins anywhere. Shoaib has played 49, that's good enough. Yeah Bond can be excluded, his exclusion actually helps me in my quest to proves medium pacers have done better than express pacers. The support thing can be applied only to some degree, Shami hasn't done well in Eng, Nz even after he got all th support and his overseas stats are way worse than Gillespie. Link to comment
Adamant Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Jay said: No they weren't you noob simpleton. A team having Atherton, Gatting, Robin Smith, Butcher, Stewart, Caddick, fraser, Gough is definitely stronger than the current team. Link to comment
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