vvvslaxman 21,005 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Conway reveals Dhoni's helping hand in success against spinners (espncricinfo.com) "He said to me, 'I think the guys are going to try to bowl fuller to you tonight, so come out and hit them straight,'" I think it is in the CSK contract Clause A You should give credit to Mahendra singh Dhoni every now and then. Vk1, asterix, speedheat and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Suhaan 15,157 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Conway reveals Dhoni's helping hand in success against spinners (espncricinfo.com) "He said to me, 'I think the guys are going to try to bowl fuller to you tonight, so come out and hit them straight,'" I think it is in the CSK contract Clause A You should give credit to Mahendra singh Dhoni every now and then. Means Thala is "definitely not"leaving raki05 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bowl_out 4,770 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 The mandatory "Thala helped me" announcement vvvslaxman and raki05 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 8,886 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Don't get the general cynicism in this thread. A junior player is showing gratitude to help and advice from a great of the game. What is so off putting? Dhoni has won the WC on home soil and also 3/4 IPLs. He knows a thing or two about spin bowling in Indian conditions and how to successfully counter it. Must we be sceptical about everything? Vivek92 1 Link to post Share on other sites
cricketfan28 823 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Dhoni must be doing something right, people shine under him, we have seen how he helped sarma and kohli to shine. Link to post Share on other sites
flamy 1,590 Posted Thursday at 01:44 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:44 AM On 5/9/2022 at 9:22 AM, Mariyam said: Don't get the general cynicism in this thread. A junior player is showing gratitude to help and advice from a great of the game. What is so off putting? Dhoni has won the WC on home soil and also 3/4 IPLs. He knows a thing or two about spin bowling in Indian conditions and how to successfully counter it. Must we be sceptical about everything? Girl, you high. But, I agree. Mariyam 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BacktoCricaddict 2,366 Posted Thursday at 12:56 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:56 PM On 5/9/2022 at 12:22 PM, Mariyam said: Don't get the general cynicism in this thread. A junior player is showing gratitude to help and advice from a great of the game. What is so off putting? Dhoni has won the WC on home soil and also 3/4 IPLs. He knows a thing or two about spin bowling in Indian conditions and how to successfully counter it. Must we be sceptical about everything? The same thread is the other forum (Cricket Talk) and I jumped in with cynical comments. After reading this, I need to temper my view. Taken alone, Conway's remarks are understandable. But the excuse for my cynicism is that, over the years, we have seen rampant sycophancy in Indian cricket. It is difficult to isolate Conway from that context. Texan and Vk1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TheWall 1,320 Posted Thursday at 10:05 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:05 PM Dhoni didn't give any tips on playing pace today... Lord 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Texan 2,474 Posted Friday at 12:54 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:54 AM 11 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: The same thread is the other forum (Cricket Talk) and I jumped in with cynical comments. After reading this, I need to temper my view. Taken alone, Conway's remarks are understandable. But the excuse for my cynicism is that, over the years, we have seen rampant sycophancy in Indian cricket. It is difficult to isolate Conway from that context. One such specimen: https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/if-ms-dhoni-asks-i-will-jump-off-24-storey-building-ishant-sharma-271467/amp/ Link to post Share on other sites
Suhaan 15,157 Posted Friday at 03:14 AM Share Posted Friday at 03:14 AM 2 hours ago, Texan said: One such specimen: https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/if-ms-dhoni-asks-i-will-jump-off-24-storey-building-ishant-sharma-271467/amp/ He has jumped long ago but still hasn't landed Vk1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nevada 6,098 Posted Friday at 08:32 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:32 AM "Jadeja doesn't reveal that Dhoni's advice was no good for him" should be the bigger headline. And the entire Indian team can vouch for how useless Thala's mentorship was as they crashed out of the T20 WC. Lord and Vk1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 8,886 Posted Saturday at 05:32 AM Share Posted Saturday at 05:32 AM On 5/12/2022 at 6:26 PM, BacktoCricaddict said: The same thread is the other forum (Cricket Talk) and I jumped in with cynical comments. After reading this, I need to temper my view. Taken alone, Conway's remarks are understandable. But the excuse for my cynicism is that, over the years, we have seen rampant sycophancy in Indian cricket. It is difficult to isolate Conway from that context. Begs the question: why would Conway want to curry favours? No spot in the Indian team on the line for him. In general, there is a tendency to seek help at the work place. Ask a senior. Take the opinion of a senior counsel before you decide. Its not that rare. In Indian workplaces at least. Its a way to mitigate risks and outsource the real work ie Decision Making. That said, I see your general point. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lord 7,593 Posted Saturday at 11:19 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:19 AM 5 hours ago, Mariyam said: Begs the question: why would Conway want to curry favours? No spot in the Indian team on the line for him. In general, there is a tendency to seek help at the work place. Ask a senior. Take the opinion of a senior counsel before you decide. Its not that rare. In Indian workplaces at least. Its a way to mitigate risks and outsource the real work ie Decision Making. That said, I see your general point. What does that have to do with Dhoni? IPL moolah always helps and CSK is a high profile franchise nevada 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BacktoCricaddict 2,366 Posted Saturday at 01:15 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:15 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, Mariyam said: Begs the question: why would Conway want to curry favours? No spot in the Indian team on the line for him. In general, there is a tendency to seek help at the work place. Ask a senior. Take the opinion of a senior counsel before you decide. Its not that rare. In Indian workplaces at least. Its a way to mitigate risks and outsource the real work ie Decision Making. That said, I see your general point. True, but it's always the same influential seniors - Sachin Paaji or Thala :-). There are, of course, 3 possibilities: (1) Sachin and Dhoni are extremely wise and perceptive, and have much more good advice to give than anyone else. (2) Juniors get advice from multiple seniors, but tend to value/listen more to Sachin and Dhoni's advice because those two guys have achieved so much and their words just carry more weight. (3) My original cynical view - fawning over the greats. Edited Saturday at 01:20 PM by BacktoCricaddict Mariyam 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vijy 5,524 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago On 5/14/2022 at 6:45 PM, BacktoCricaddict said: True, but it's always the same influential seniors - Sachin Paaji or Thala :-). There are, of course, 3 possibilities: (1) Sachin and Dhoni are extremely wise and perceptive, and have much more good advice to give than anyone else. (2) Juniors get advice from multiple seniors, but tend to value/listen more to Sachin and Dhoni's advice because those two guys have achieved so much and their words just carry more weight. (3) My original cynical view - fawning over the greats. I would say it is mostly no. 3 and then no. 2; not really much of no. 1 Link to post Share on other sites