Ranvir Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 5/30/2022 at 5:58 AM, ravishingravi said: What a pathetic degraded culture it has become. While country moves towards Blockchain, Punjab is talking gang war. It will be God foresaken state full of drugs and violence. If AAP can even just slow this process down, it will be an achievement. Sad but true. These musicians and their gun promoting culture are not helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Not a fan of him and his music , infact I hate current Punjabi music ,but om shanti to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) On 5/29/2022 at 3:07 PM, Lord said: I didn't even security to them was provided by govt. They can afford it.Why waste taxpayer money. Though I read they published names of those whose security was removed He is politician don’t know why is it waste of public money to provide security to politician. His security is removed and he is dead. He created a song which AAP govt didn’t like it as well. Edited May 31, 2022 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 This video sheds lot of light & info about Sidhu Moosewala killing & Gangs menace in Punjab.....I had no idea how complex the situation was.....lengthy video, provides in-depth info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) This quote was posted today during the NHL playoff game, the anchor paid tribute & mentioned that Sidhu Moose Wala was from Brampton Ontario. Edited June 2, 2022 by Under_Score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Under_Score said: This quote was posted today during the NHL playoff game, the anchor paid tribute & mentioned that Sidhu Moose Wala was from Brampton Ontario. Moosewala himself seems to be a part of gangs and a doubtful person. Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 RIP. Never heard of him so checked out his music. I went in 100% sure that I won’t like his music so clicked on the songs that had the most views on YouTube. Surprisingly catchy. obviously didn’t understand the lyrics but assuming it’s about drugs, girls, guns, gangs, rebellion and the usual rap tropes. Back to the music enjoyed 2/3 songs I tried to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, rkt.india said: Moosewala himself seems to be a part of gangs and a doubtful person. This article should clear some doubts whether Moosewala was part of any gang. Since he was constantly threatened by one gang, he probably was in good terms with another gang to send a message that he knew people too. He was a very successful artist & didn't need to do any money extortion activities usually gangs do to survive. Rivalry between gangsters and singers Police sources say that like there is a rivalry between Bishnoi and Bambiha gangs — they kill members of each other as well as people associated with them — singers are also engaged in a battle of supremacy in the music industry. When Akali leader Vicky Middukhera, who was associated with the music industry, was killed in Mohali last year, the name of Shagunpreet, manager of Moosewala, had figured in the probe. The Bishnoi gang had alleged Moosewala’s hand in the murder of Middukhera — the reason why Moosewala was killed by the Bishnoi gang members. Now the Bambiha gang, which is the arch rival of the Bishnoi gang, and Gounder brothers group (supporter of deceased gangster Vicky Gounder), which is closely linked with Bambiha gang, in a social media post said that Lawrence Bishnoi and Goldy Brar shouldn’t have killed Moosewala. They said that they have no connection with Moosewala but since his name was attached with them, they will avenge his murder. https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/bambiha-gang-sidhu-moosewala-murder-7944447/ Edited June 2, 2022 by Under_Score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Under_Score said: This article should clear some doubts whether Moosewala was part of any gang. Since he was constantly threatened by one gang, he probably was in good terms with another gang to send a message that he knew people too. He was a very successful artist & didn't need to do any money extortion activities usually gangs do to survive. Rivalry between gangsters and singers Police sources say that like there is a rivalry between Bishnoi and Bambiha gangs — they kill members of each other as well as people associated with them — singers are also engaged in a battle of supremacy in the music industry. When Akali leader Vicky Middukhera, who was associated with the music industry, was killed in Mohali last year, the name of Shagunpreet, manager of Moosewala, had figured in the probe. The Bishnoi gang had alleged Moosewala’s hand in the murder of Middukhera — the reason why Moosewala was killed by the Bishnoi gang members. Now the Bambiha gang, which is the arch rival of the Bishnoi gang, and Gounder brothers group (supporter of deceased gangster Vicky Gounder), which is closely linked with Bambiha gang, in a social media post said that Lawrence Bishnoi and Goldy Brar shouldn’t have killed Moosewala. They said that they have no connection with Moosewala but since his name was attached with them, they will avenge his murder. https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/bambiha-gang-sidhu-moosewala-murder-7944447/ Bambiha gang has threatened Mankirt Aulakh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: Bambiha gang has threatened Mankirt Aulakh. One cannot trust what these gangsters say, allege or claim. They seem to change tunes according to the situation. The supposedly badass Lawrance Bishnoi is now claiming that his group is not responsible for the killing. During interrogation with the police, Lawrence said that he had nothing to do with Moosewala's murder. Further Bishnoi also disassociated himself from the social media post in which Brar claimed responsibility. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/moose-wala-murder-gangster-lawrence-bishnoi-not-cooperating-sit-traces-route-taken-by-shooters/articleshow/91945224.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 6/1/2022 at 4:23 AM, gattaca said: He is politician don’t know why is it waste of public money to provide security to politician. His security is removed and he is dead. He created a song which AAP govt didn’t like it as well. He lost.Wasnt in power. By that logic anyone can nominate himself and get free security for 5 years even if he loses deposit(nominal amount in comparison) I don't mind his party providing him security. Also others apart from politicians were also given security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord said: He lost.Wasnt in power. By that logic anyone can nominate himself and get free security for 5 years even if he loses deposit(nominal amount in comparison) I don't mind his party providing him security. Also others apart from politicians were also given security. He was given security because of death threats as a singer, not because he was a politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 13 hours ago, Under_Score said: One cannot trust what these gangsters say, allege or claim. They seem to change tunes according to the situation. The supposedly badass Lawrance Bishnoi is now claiming that his group is not responsible for the killing. During interrogation with the police, Lawrence said that he had nothing to do with Moosewala's murder. Further Bishnoi also disassociated himself from the social media post in which Brar claimed responsibility. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/moose-wala-murder-gangster-lawrence-bishnoi-not-cooperating-sit-traces-route-taken-by-shooters/articleshow/91945224.cms Responsibility was taken by Brar, not him. Vo jail me hai. Brar is in Canada. Even your lawyer would advise to not take any such responsibility to have another case on you. His job is done. It's police's job to interrogate the case. It's possible there maybe someone else behind it but murder to hua hai aur kisne kiya/karvaya pata chalna chahiye. Sidhu was hit 34 bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He was given security because of death threats as a singer, not because he was a politician. He alone wasnt given security. They removed security of 424 people. I think he was only singer in the list AFAIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Received this today....summed up quite nicely. Way too many gangster type songs have done lot of damage already....time to change that for the betterment of Punjab. *This sums up Sidhu Mussewalla killing quite appropriately!!* (A brilliant write up on the present situation in Punjab. Worth pondering. Received from a group) Gangs in Punjab have their origin in the proliferation of student groups and student politics. Student groups vie with each other to take over college students" unions and here the support of goondas and gangsters begins, some even from outside the state. The wayward youth are identified and further recruited. These groups find political affiliations, as politicians require ready manpower and workers. Affiliations with politicians means protection from the police, and adds to their influence and morale. The gun culture propounded by these singers is an intoxication for the youth. A market for such cheap songs to tap a false sense of bravado, machismo among youth of Punjab, Haryana, Western UP has been created. Now the Gangs are operated professionally, and they have started investing in kabaddi clubs, and extort hefty amounts from singers. The singers have now started aligning with different gangs for protection. Here comes the nexus...Gangsters, Singers, Politicians, Narco smugglers and kabaddi promoters. Now what is the contribution to our culture with lyrics sung in by these singers ... "Late shate aun da, peg sheg laun da...nazara aunda Jat nu"..?? What motivation is there for youth? Gaddi ch bandook.... Chaklo revolver raflaan kabja lena hai? Asle di dhar vargi Panj goliyan And many other songs with bandook, pistol, daaru, katta, asla, dushman, velly etc. are blatantly used to attract youth towards a false culture for huge money by these bastards. While Punjab has only 2% of the country's population, it has 10% of the total gun licenses. It is also one of the states having highest number of gun licenses in recent years. There are about 13 gun licenses for every 1000 people in Punjab. Experts believe it is the pop songs that are to be blamed for this excessive portrayal of guns. The songs portray men donning expensive clothes, shoes, watches, a gold chain around the neck, and sporting guns, rifles, etc. Guns and rifles have become a common sight in Punjabi songs. These songs mostly cater to upper caste Jatt Sikhs, and the lyrics normalize the usage of guns as if it is a status symbol. A whole generation of youth has been channelized towards this culture . NRIs are also to blame for their rise. The clichéd line in defence is "k aahi demand aa...ahi vikda.." O bhai you guys first create a market, n hook youth with such cheap songs, and then claim "aahi vikda". Gurdas nu taan kade zaroorat nahi payi bandook di. Oh taan dafli naal hi tuhade gang ton zyada kamyab hai kalla hi. Sartaj te Kanwar v saaf ga k culture promote karde aa. Now this young singer was killed in broad daylight, which is an extremely sad outcome of the culture these singers themselves espoused. I mourn not only this youngster, but also hundreds of unknown youngsters put on the drug n gang route by singer mafia. This should serve as a clarion call for society to introspect what culture we are creating for our kids in Punjab. Such songs should be immediately banned, and the gangsters' nexus with singers mafia, political mafia and kabaddi mafia be brutally broken, to arrest the cultural death of our beloved Punjab. maniac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 catchy song. Can’t understand the lyrics but based on the video clearly the lyrics aren’t about having a good time or some kind of revolution among the poor. Not sure if this guy was an angel. Might be a talented artist. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, maniac said: catchy song. Can’t understand the lyrics but based on the video clearly the lyrics aren’t about having a good time or some kind of revolution among the poor. Not sure if this guy was an angel. Might be a talented artist. This was one of the chart buster tracks by Moosewala. I love listening to many different types of Music.....Ranging from Classic Kishore Da, Rafi & Mukesh songs, also 80s singers like Kumar Sanu, Udit Narayan & many other present day Hindi songs. Like Listening to various artists ( old & new ) from the west, like Rap songs as well. Listen to Old classic Punjabi songs & also the present day new ones. Punjabi Rap singers ( Gangster type included ) have produced some super hit numbers over the years....I like to listen to them once in a while for the beat & videos, they won't have any impact on my life....just cool sounding music...that's about it. This Rap song posted below is by a young new artist, he idolizes Sidhu Moosewala....also mentions about gang stuff at 00:42. Honestly....it is a cool beat. I won't become a gangster after listening to it......but it can inspire some teen listener in a wrong way. Edited June 3, 2022 by Under_Score maniac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Seems like this claim is authentic....Sachin Bishnoi is alleging that this was a revenge killing since Sidhu Moosewala provided shelter & funding for the guys who killed Vikramjit Singh ( Akali Dal leader aka Vicky Middukhera ) last year. This might escalate into a gang war since few other gangsters have sympathized for Sidhu Moosewala.....more avenge shoot outs most likely coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Excellent interview to explain the situation in Punjab and this culture of violence. Have been listening to his songs. Super talented guy. However I fear hindu genocide in Punjab. They are at risk. They want to pull off another Kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Supposedly some snitch called 'Kekda' gave the info to the shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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