coffee_rules Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, MechEng said: Did he say "Pooja path" or "Mazhab" and "rab"? Those words are islamic and sikh. If the movie is a propaganda, then hum bhi koi kam nahin with Hindu victimization The terrorist friend says pooja paath. Our guy says mazhab (religion) as a broader term which includes all religions cause malaria. In essence, all should get offended . Rab means god. The two words are religion agnostic Edited August 13, 2022 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: The terrorist friend says pooja paath. Our guy says mazhab (religion) as a broader term which includes all religions cause malaria. In essence, all should get offended . Rab means god. The two words are religion agnostic Mazhab is definitely Islamic. Hindus use 'Dharma' Rab too is used in Punjab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Mariyam said: @coffee_rules @diga @mishra You guys are throwing around some unverified twitter numbers. Without really knowing how the film business works. The producer AK, has already sold the movie to his distributors (and in this case co-producer: Viacom 18). Viacom 18 has distribution rights in India. And Paramount ( Iirc) for distribution rights overseas including China. From the total box office collections, initially you deduct entertainment tax. Then from the remaining proceeds the charges for the multiplex/single screens. By this stage generally 80% of the BO receipts remain. Of this the distributor (typically in India) takes 75% of the profits. And the producer gets a small percentage here based on the kind of profit sharing contract that is drawn up. Think of the post covid era where films aren't doing too well in the BO. Most producers, even the big names like Akshay, Devgn and Aamir, are ready to negotiate and agree to a smaller % share of gross profit if the Distributor is willing to offer a higher price for purchase of distribution rights. They want to make the bulk of their money before the movie releases. That's why the 250cr INR that went to Aamir from China is very laughable. Paramount ( or whoever distributed his earlier movies) would never agree for such a lop sided deal.You can accuse the Chinese government of being opaque with their financial dealings, but most of the international distributors are US based and their books/yearly balance sheets are available in public domain. Those numbers look exaggerated. I had the same suspicions when there were huge collections reported of Rajnikanth’s Tamil movies in Japan. Numbers being in public domain is not something assumed to be legal. They could be cooked and published. What if Chinese authorities exaggerated collection receipts and generated money transfer to India like a Hawala scheme? It is China and they can do anything. There is no checks and balances there. Tough to do it from Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Lord said: Mazhab is definitely Islamic. Hindus use 'Dharma' Rab too is used in Punjab Mazhab means religion or faith, just like Allah means God. Hindus use Inshallah as it means god-willing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Mazhab means religion or faith, just like Allah means God. Hindus use Inshallah as it means god-willing! When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lord said: When? Many Hindus. I have heard a lot on SM, celebrities and a lot of them explain the same. Here in ICF too albeit in sarcasm. AK’s character is a Punjabi and in Punjabi , Mahzab and Rab are borrowed words from Urdu. It has more words from Urdu /Persian than Hindi. I can relate to a Punjabi Hindu using Mazhab rab etc in a Hindu context. Tujh mein Rab Dikhta hain is a song sung by two Punjabi Hindu characters in the movie Mazhab nahi sikhata Aapas mein bAir rakhna. Hindi hain hum, watan hain, Hindustan hamara. Mazhab has no Islamic only context. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Many Hindus. I have heard a lot on SM, celebrities and a lot of them explain the same. Here in ICF too albeit in sarcasm. AK’s character is a Punjabi and in Punjabi , Mahzab and Rab are borrowed words from Urdu. It has more words from Urdu /Persian than Hindi. I can relate to a Punjabi Hindu using Mazhab rab etc in a Hindu context. Tujh mein Rab Dikhta hain is a song sung by two Punjabi Hindu characters in the movie Mazhab nahi sikhata Aapas mein bAir rakhna. Hindi hain hum, watan hain, Hindustan hamara. Mazhab has no Islamic only context. . That is an Urdu poetry written by Allama Iqbal written before Independence, Already said 'Rab' is used in Punjab whether by Sikhs or Hindus. Its more of a regional word. You won't see it used in South or even Mumbai etc. I'm a Punjabi,havent seen anyone use 'Mazhab' in Punjabi conversation. zen and Mariyam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Lord said: That is an Urdu poetry written by Allama Iqbal written before Independence, Already said 'Rab' is used in Punjab whether by Sikhs or Hindus. Its more of a regional word. You won't see it used in South or even Mumbai etc. I'm a Punjabi,havent seen anyone use 'Mazhab' in Punjabi conversation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazhabi_Sikh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Kamal Khan claims that according to reports AK has decided to release the film in Pakistan as he was not happy with the Indian public for rejecting his propaganda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 One thing is true that KRK says in the review. Aamir khan has been showing his eyes like mad person and acting since Tare zameen par. Lord, Mariyam and coffee_rules 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 8/12/2022 at 8:11 AM, rkt.india said: Who wrote this film, a Hindu Atul Kulkarni. Hamein to apno ne loota, gairo me kahan dum tha KRK makes sense when he says this movie is directed by aamir khan. May be changed storyline and scenes during direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I was hoping to read some reviews but appears as if only one person has seen this film so far. Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, zen said: I was hoping to read some reviews but appears as if only one person has seen this film so far. Did you also think that only the movie's name was 'boycott lal singh chadda' and everyone here would be discussing about how good it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Did you also think that only the movie's name was 'boycott lal singh chadda' and everyone here would be discussing about how good it was? Nah … But was expecting a discussion (whether good or bad) on film among those who saw it. Here I am reading about “boycott” from those who did not even seen the film and basing their “reaction” on a clip or two. Lord and Mariyam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, zen said: Nah … But was expecting a discussion (whether good or bad) on film among those who saw it. Here I am reading about “boycott” from those who did not even seen the film and basing their “reaction” on a clip or two. Sorry but that's a dumb post^^...For me, it is about Aamir being critical of/mocking Hinduism in his previous movie but not have courage to speak about his own religion (Islam)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, zen said: Nah … But was expecting a discussion (whether good or bad) on film among those who saw it. Here I am reading about “boycott” from those who did not even seen the film and basing their “reaction” on a clip or two. One review is enough to tell how the movie is. That too from @Mariyam who likes most of Bollywood movies has trashed the movie. Go figure! zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Sorry but that's a dumb post^^...For me, it is about Aamir being critical of/mocking Hinduism in his previous movie but not have courage to speak about his own religion (Islam)... In which previous film did he mock Hinduism (PK was not his home production)? Why does he have to mock Islam or Christianity or whatever? Does he complain when most terrorist films show terrorists as Muslims? I read many such boycott talks. For e.g. Padmavat and when I see the film, I wonder what the issue was about. Edited August 13, 2022 by zen Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, zen said: In which previous film did he mock Hinduism (PK was not his home production)? Why does he have to mock Islam or Christianity or whatever? Does he complain when most terrorist films show terrorists as Muslims? I read many such boycott talks. For e.g. Padmavat and when I see the film, I wonder what the issue was about. It doesn't matter if it was his own production or not ... intolerance of Islamists is one of biggest issues facing this world , rest of the religions largely coexist peacefully, i am not telling that he should mock Islam but before being critical of/mocking Hinduism or other religions he should be critical of his own religion because his religion needs reform on a whole new level in comparison to other religions but obviously he doesn't have the courage to do so. Edited August 13, 2022 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, randomGuy said: It doesn't matter if it was his own production or not ... intolerance of Islamists is one of biggest issues facing this world , rest of the religions largely coexist peacefully, i am not telling that he should mock Islam but before being critical of/mocking Hinduism or other religions but should be critical of his own religion because his religion needs reform on a whole new level in comparison to other religions but obviously he doesn't have the courage to do so. Do Hirani and Vidoo Chopra (the producers), who also wrote and/or directed the film (assuming you are talking about PK), get a clean chit while the actor gets mobbed? Have you seen the film? If so, what has he mocked? (in Deewar, AB is constantly showers hatred on Hindu gods until his end. I tend to skip those parts in Deewar). Edited August 13, 2022 by zen Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, zen said: Do Hirani and Vidoo Chopra, who wrote and/or directed the film (assuming you are talking about PK), get a clean chit while the actor onscreen gets mobbed? Have you seen the film? If so what has he mocked? (in Deewar, AB is constantly showers hatred on Hindu gods until his end. I tend to skip those parts in Deewar). LSC obviously 90% people posting here won't be spending money on it as they support the boycott, so what were you expecting? PK yes, I have seen. Someone can call it mocking, someone would say being critical of Hinduism. To me it was mocking. In Deewar movie i didn't find anything wrong. BTW Do you have disagreement with what i wrote in last post? "intolerance of Islamists is one of biggest issues facing this world... I am not telling that he should mock Islam but before being critical of/mocking Hinduism or other religions he should be critical of his own religion because his religion needs reform on a whole new level in comparison to other religions but obviously he doesn't have the courage to do so." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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