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On 6/3/2022 at 8:08 AM, rkt.india said:

Nehru's one mistake of not capturing pok back in that battle when Pakistanis attacked Srinagar is the biggest blunder in Indian history and rewards are still reaped.

Nehru was dependent on Abdullah. Sheikh Abdullah had no control over POK.  His control ceased till the Indian side.

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On Fri Jun 03 2022 at 5:38 PM, rkt.india said:

Nehru's one mistake of not capturing pok back in that battle when Pakistanis attacked Srinagar is the biggest blunder in Indian history and rewards are still reaped.

Kashmir war in 1947-48 was stretched for a loooooooong time...  It's a frontier.  You can't just go & capture it.  Gilgit Scouts along with British Generals captured all those areas much earlier & those areas of Chitral Hunza Skardu were all gone with extremely hostile local population up in arms against Dogra rule.

Pakistani army hadn't fully came into its own still back then...  It would have been a proper bloodbath had that escalated.  Pakhtoons did massacres in Mirpur & Bhimber.  Poonch was totally in their control.  Some legendary battles were held to secure inch by inch there.  Choice was simple turn to Kargil or Gilgit & IA chose Kargil after a year of fighting. 

 

In 1965... Another battle of attrition.  Pakistan operation Gibraltar had failed but they send most of its forces in Kashmir.  Another deadlock on heights.   Indian army in a heroic attempt captures Haji Peer pass (most of the terrorist infiltration happens via that) 

Pakistan in operation Grand slam has plans on Jammu & Akhnoor...  A surprise attack &,  they capture Chammb sector.  IAF dispatched & somehow saves Akhnoor.  Pakistani Ahmadi general replaced by Yahya Khan...  Pakistani's call it blunder. 

After the war Chammb was exchanged for Haji Peer pass. 

 

This is the short story on how tough is it for both IA & PA to fight in Kashmir.  Pakistan still has majority of its forces there. 

Capturing Pakistani Punjab is a lot easier compared to POK for a reason. 

 

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The usual suspects blaming the GOI and BJP when it is clear cut religious extremism problem. Why do rest of Indian Muslims maintain a "strategic" silence whenever such attacks happens?

 

It is clear that locals are involved, and blaming Pakistan everytime will not be the solution. These locals are active all around the country and we need to openly talk about own evil people.

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31 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

Am still confused..was there a genocide or not?

AAPtards Liberals like Vishal dudloony is blaming the movie TheKashmirFiles for the recent targeted killings and the eighth exodus of KPs. Here is Sushil Pandit silencing Rajdeep 

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11 hours ago, someone said:

The usual suspects blaming the GOI and BJP when it is clear cut religious extremism problem. Why do rest of Indian Muslims maintain a "strategic" silence whenever such attacks happens?

 

It is clear that locals are involved, and blaming Pakistan everytime will not be the solution. These locals are active all around the country and we need to openly talk about own evil people.

Absolutely blaming Pakistan is taking the easy way out.   However such attacks were expected after art 370 abrogation.  Kashmir is now as hostile as ever.  Situation wasn't this bad for non Hindus or labour class from other states for last 10 -12 years. 

Sh*** will hit the fan in state if anything happens during Amarnath Yatra. 

Last day there was a temple damage in Bhaderwah which went under immediate curfew. 

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10 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Absolutely blaming Pakistan is taking the easy way out.   However such attacks were expected after art 370 abrogation.  Kashmir is now as hostile as ever.  Situation wasn't this bad for non Hindus or labour class from other states for last 10 -12 years. 

Sh*** will hit the fan in state if anything happens during Amarnath Yatra. 

Last day there was a temple damage in Bhaderwah which went under immediate curfew. 

 

So you just have opened your eyes in recent years, and don't understand the previous decades. The status quo was never peace.

 

The reality is simple, our own people are selling info to terrorists. The attacks on army may have diminished there while, the attacks on common man is more apparent. Then, the question should be how different are the Muslims in other parts? The rest of India may not facing the same terrorism threats but what is the future?

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11 minutes ago, someone said:

 

So you just have opened your eyes in recent years, and don't understand the previous decades. The status quo was never peace.

 

The reality is simple, our own people are selling info to terrorists. The attacks on army may have diminished there while, the attacks on common man is more apparent. Then, the question should be how different are the Muslims in other parts? The rest of India may not facing the same terrorism threats but what is the future?

It is believed that Kashmir is security cushion of sorts for India.  Acts as a buffer state against a hostile Pakistan. 

While the state is rich in natural water resources which is prime reason Pakistan badly wanted it.  Nobody wants its enemy country to have control of its lifeline...  IWT notwithstanding. 

 

What u are saying is I have known for years & seen up close in my childhood days.  

Coming up to tge difference between Indian & Kashmiri Muslims is rather simple...  Indian Muslims are mostly poor & Kashmiri Muslims are filthy rich u already said the reason is terrorism & various other factirs.  Their kids boss around in colleges in India,  have money in their pockets..  They also get scholarships & everything.  Minority benefits. 

I can't predict the future but things certainly aren't looking rosy for now. 

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On 6/8/2022 at 12:11 AM, Lone Wolf said:

It is believed that Kashmir is security cushion of sorts for India.  Acts as a buffer state against a hostile Pakistan. 

While the state is rich in natural water resources which is prime reason Pakistan badly wanted it.  Nobody wants its enemy country to have control of its lifeline...  IWT notwithstanding. 

 

What u are saying is I have known for years & seen up close in my childhood days.  

Coming up to tge difference between Indian & Kashmiri Muslims is rather simple...  Indian Muslims are mostly poor & Kashmiri Muslims are filthy rich u already said the reason is terrorism & various other factirs.  Their kids boss around in colleges in India,  have money in their pockets..  They also get scholarships & everything.  Minority benefits. 

I can't predict the future but things certainly aren't looking rosy for now. 

 

A long reply but no straight answer. These issues today and the future issues are inevitable. The leave, convert or die is in our past, today and future. The common man in the rest of India, will not always be secure, and eventually face the same thing. Secular parties, army are only stop-gap measures.

 

And these Kashmiri Muslims are rich, due to KP genocides and loot. Actually, this rich KP is always one reason used to justify the evil actions.

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13 hours ago, someone said:

 

A long reply but no straight answer. These issues today and the future issues are inevitable. The leave, convert or die is in our past, today and future. The common man in the rest of India, will not always be secure, and eventually face the same thing. Secular parties, army are only stop-gap measures.

 

And these Kashmiri Muslims are rich, due to KP genocides and loot. Actually, this rich KP is always one reason used to justify the evil actions.

Ummm...  I am not sure the KP thing is entirely correct in most cases.  While it is true that KP/KH were most of the times owners of Apple orchards in Kashmir.  But these rich KP's knew tide was turning & sold out earlier & in case of emergency at times at cheap rates...  These people moved to abroad or settled in other parts of India.  No way they would live in camps & quarters of Jammu. 

The middle class KP/KH suffered for sure but even they sold out in many cases again sometimes at cheap rates.   My own KP friend told me all that. 

Terrorism & hawala money is also a major factor in Kashmiri Muslims getting richer.  It's prominent in other far flung areas of Doda Kishtwar as well though not at same level.  Rest the HDI index of Kashmir is awesome confirms the same.  PoK remains sub saharan Africa meanwhile. 

 

Leave convert & die is prominent in other parts of India right now.  Hindus fleeeing their houses is a common sight these days.  And that's mostly down to weakness at community level.  

There's no straight answer to this question as J&K will forever remain a military based state with direct links to national security.  Can't be compared with anything in India. 

Peace will likely won't come easily.  India doesn't has the ability to go full Xinjiang on it like China...  Which probably is the most effective method developed by XI Jinping himself. 

 

 

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