SM2907 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 sarkar ko sirf vote aur reputation se farak padta hai. Rarely do they care about reality on the ground Lone Wolf and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, SM2907 said: sarkar ko sirf vote aur reputation se farak padta hai. Rarely do they care about reality on the ground HM office shamelessly saying terror activities have gotten less. When a full blown proxy war is happening. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 watch it after 5 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Another KP civilian, Sanjay Pandith shot dead by terrorists in Pulwama. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Sanjay Sharma, 40, was fired upon by terrorists while he was on his way to a local market. He was shifted to hospital but succumbed to injuries. Sharma was a security guard at a bank in Jammu and Kashmir. Kashmiri Pandit dies after being shot at by terrorists in JK's Pulwama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 minutes ago, Gollum said: Sanjay Sharma, 40, was fired upon by terrorists while he was on his way to a local market. He was shifted to hospital but succumbed to injuries. Sharma was a security guard at a bank in Jammu and Kashmir. Kashmiri Pandit dies after being shot at by terrorists in JK's Pulwama Om Shanti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 PM saying Rahul made it to Kashmir because it is safe now... Gandi politics has no shame in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Modi g made alliance with PDP, Gave Mufti free run in the state.. Then they preach in Parliament sab changa hai... Dogli Dangerous & chalaak strategy. Agnihotri will be silent on this genocide as his selective outrage doesn't fits his agenda. PD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 KPs were far safer in the valley during UPA 1 and 2 years. BJP supporters shutting down any discussion about these targeted killings on social media,. abhi bhi Swara Bhaskar, Rana Ayyub, Huma Qureshi, BBC se jawab maang rahe hai, not a squeak against the people actually in charge. Satyanash ho raha hai..... Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Also blaming Pak for every issue in Kashmir is getting boring now. Most if not all such murderers of KPs, non-Muslims, non-local laborers etc. who got encountered last year were locals. Sure Pak too sends in its share of terrorists, fans flames etc. but it isn't like this side of the border has zero contribution in producing jihadi filth. And no surprise how godi media hasn't questioned Modi/Shah once. Imagine the uproar if Mufti/Abdullah were in charge!!! Somehow they all come together and pin all the blame on RaGa, leftists, Bollywood etc. Morally bankrupt log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, Gollum said: Also blaming Pak for every issue in Kashmir is getting boring now. Most if not all such murderers of KPs, non-Muslims, non-local laborers etc. who got encountered last year were locals. Sure Pak too sends in its share of terrorists, fans flames etc. but it isn't like this side of the border has zero contribution in producing jihadi filth. And no surprise how godi media hasn't questioned Modi/Shah once. Imagine the uproar if Mufti/Abdullah were in charge!!! Somehow they all come together and pin all the blame on RaGa, leftists, Bollywood etc. Morally bankrupt log. Really? Boring? So who is to blame according to you? Btw, during the UPA years Kashmir was a lost cause. The army was on a daily basis facing militancy aided by organized stone pelting coordinated by terrorists on the ground. Now that they can't do anything against the army they are finding vulnerable ppl and killing them. What should the govt do? Assign private security for every Hindu in the valley? The only long term solution for Kashmir is to enable long-term migration and enable the local population to start businesses and give their youth an alternative to terrorism. This cannot be achieved overnight esp with such a radicalized population there. The reason for the radicalization is Pak. Until the terror camps in Pak shut down - things are not going to improve. I guess in today's world of convenience people forget that there are no short term solutions to long-standing problems. If India as a nation were to at least provide a united stand vs the Kashmir problem it would help - but our opposition today has nothing positive to contribute. So it becomes one party vs the world instead of one nation against the world. At least Israel is lucky that their people understand the danger that a divided country wrt security entails. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 30 minutes ago, bharathh said: Really? Boring? So who is to blame according to you? The administration. Not just me, even the KPs are blaming them. People of India elected BJP with 300+ majority two consecutive times, gave them unprecedented power not seen since Indira years...so yeah blame is on them only. Pakistan is one among several excuses (eg. the international saazish to malign Modi that is running daily on godi media) this dispensation cites from time to time when they don't have proper answers for our problems. Funny how most will blame anything and everything under the sun but will always the benefit of doubt to Modi, Shah. Don't put party loyalty above the country. 30 minutes ago, bharathh said: Btw, during the UPA years Kashmir was a lost cause. The army was on a daily basis facing militancy aided by organized stone pelting coordinated by terrorists on the ground. Now that they can't do anything against the army they are finding vulnerable ppl and killing them. Targeted killings of KPs is happening under this regime, don't divert the topic. Even during Amarnath land transfer crisis, KPs were protected. Think @Lone Wolf even provided the stats once. Buck stops with the BJP here, Congress hasn't been in power since forever. No elected government in place either in JK. Edited February 28 by Gollum Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, Gollum said: The administration. Not just me, even the KPs are blaming them. People of India elected BJP with 300+ majority two consecutive times, gave them unprecedented power not seen since Indira years...so yeah blame is on them only. Pakistan is one among several excuses (eg. the international saazish to malign Modi that is running daily on godi media) this dispensation cites from time to time when they don't have proper answers for our problems. Funny how most will blame anything and everything under the sun but will always the benefit of doubt to Modi, Shah. Don't put party loyalty above the country. Targeted killings of KPs is happening under this regime, don't divert the topic. Even during Amarnath land transfer crisis, KPs were protected. Think @Lone Wolf even provided the stats once. Buck stops with the BJP here, Congress hasn't been in power since forever. No elected government in place either in JK. What is the solution that works according to you. I am not asking your solution - but something that you've heard from others that will work that the govt should follow? I don't work for the BJP or am a cadre that makes me put BJP over anyone else - but I can safely tell you as someone that has gone to Kashmir and Ladakh multiple times both during and after UPA that the situation has improved there multi-fold and will only keep getting better. The terrorists are targeting civilians now because the army has carte blanche to do whatever it takes there unlike before. The terrorists are killing innocent ppl because they have no other way of targeting India. Of course the local hindus will lean on the govt for help - but will they allow others from across India to settle there - even now - no. They believe like their muslim brethren that only Kashmiris should be in Kashmir but they can go to any part of India. Talk to a typical Kashmiri Hindu about it being safer if people from across India come there and they will rebuke you to your face. The army is doing the best it can atm. Without development of business and prosperity there and a total destruction of Pak terror camps - things will not change. At least have some perspective instead of sitting in an armchair and talking about something that will take generations to solve. I support what this govt is doing wholeheartedly. Only with sustained efforts will things change. It cannot even in the next 20 yrs otherwise. It takes time to reverse the rot of almost 80 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Gollum said: The administration. Not just me, even the KPs are blaming them. People of India elected BJP with 300+ majority two consecutive times, gave them unprecedented power not seen since Indira years...so yeah blame is on them only. Pakistan is one among several excuses (eg. the international saazish to malign Modi that is running daily on godi media) this dispensation cites from time to time when they don't have proper answers for our problems. Funny how most will blame anything and everything under the sun but will always the benefit of doubt to Modi, Shah. Don't put party loyalty above the country. Targeted killings of KPs is happening under this regime, don't divert the topic. Even during Amarnath land transfer crisis, KPs were protected. Think @Lone Wolf even provided the stats once. Buck stops with the BJP here, Congress hasn't been in power since forever. No elected government in place either in JK. During UPA rule, separatists and Sayeed+Abdullahs (both are same actually) ran the street politics. Women and children in front pelting stones and terrorists at the back. The amount of pellet gun sad stories used to be running on MSM on a daily basis is evidence of that. After A370 redacted, we have had targeted killings of migrant workers and KPs in retaliation. This is a collateral to avoid the former regime issues. This is the new 5th Gen warfare that India has to deal with. And you want India to bail out Pakistan with wheat aid. With 300O seats also, it is not possible to flush out insurgencies in Kashmir Gill style. Foreign agencies and media are involved and India has to run a soft power policy through global GDP PR for economy story of India. The least Modi can do is move KPs to Jammu and give them their pending salaries and provide gated protection like they give to Meboobas and Abdullahs. That is sorely on BJP and Modi and the LG in [email protected] KPs just like Sikhs of Punjab also have factions that support Congress despite getting the short end of the stick. And Congress doesn’t care about KPs and they are also silent about targeted KP killings. Look here for a namoona Everyone wants to appease Kashmiri Muslims, BJP to save face of handling admin and Congress to get their influence back in JK. Nobody facking cares for KPs. Edited February 28 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 hours ago, coffee_rules said: During UPA rule, separatists and Sayeed+Abdullahs (both are same actually) ran the street politics. Women and children in front pelting stones and terrorists at the back. The amount of pellet gun sad stories used to be running on MSM on a daily basis is evidence of that. After A370 redacted, we have had targeted killings of migrant workers and KPs in retaliation. This is a collateral to avoid the former regime issues. This is the new 5th Gen warfare that India has to deal with. And you want India to bail out Pakistan with wheat aid. With 300O seats also, it is not possible to flush out insurgencies in Kashmir Gill style. Foreign agencies and media are involved and India has to run a soft power policy through global GDP PR for economy story of India. The least Modi can do is move KPs to Jammu and give them their pending salaries and provide gated protection like they give to Meboobas and Abdullahs. That is sorely on BJP and Modi and the LG in [email protected] KPs just like Sikhs of Punjab also have factions that support Congress despite getting the short end of the stick. And Congress doesn’t care about KPs and they are also silent about targeted KP killings. Look here for a namoona Everyone wants to appease Kashmiri Muslims, BJP to save face of handling admin and Congress to get their influence back in JK. Nobody facking cares for KPs. Ttargeted Killings were at an all time low... Speaking from personal experience. Saw many Hindus in JK when I last visited Kashmir. It was quite safe for the people during NC Cong rule. I have heard locals believe that Gulam Nabi Azad the only Non Kashmiri CM was the best ever in the history as the development projects were initiated in Jammu as previously there used to be Kashmiri bias. Current government doesn't hold a candle to the peace in that era... Power hungry clowns made a corrupt Anti national collision with PDP & we all saw Green posters of BJP. In the valley. Nobody should be fooled by their antics. PM lying in Parliament recently about Kashmir being safe was a slap on the faces of Kashmiri Hindus. Dogras & Hindus will likely wipe them out next time. HMO is silent of having elections. Local BJP leaders know their fate as well. Kuch nhi milna ab Jammu se bhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 9 hours ago, Gollum said: KPs were far safer in the valley during UPA 1 and 2 years. BJP supporters shutting down any discussion about these targeted killings on social media,. abhi bhi Swara Bhaskar, Rana Ayyub, Huma Qureshi, BBC se jawab maang rahe hai, not a squeak against the people actually in charge. Satyanash ho raha hai..... Indeed hiding behind those guys is getting lame... They have the power this time. They are willing to give scholarships to Kashmiri muslims but not local Hindus who are actual minority. Government has not submitted or put an effort to do anything about those pleas in supreme court. No investment, no outsider settlement, no colonies have been established in the valley. Art370 removal is only on paper... Ulta labour class from UP/Bihar who used to work safely &, Hindu govt employees are not even safe. Situation is so bad I have seen Hindu policeman asking for Transfers in Jammu. BJP bhakts are deliberately closing their eyes as their Almighty PM said sub changa hai... And their loyalty to him matters not facts on ground. Again that party that forms a coalition with PDP & freakin mehbooba Mufti as CM (first time ever) has no credibility to talk sh*** about Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 42 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Ttargeted Killings were at an all time low... Speaking from personal experience. Saw many Hindus in JK when I last visited Kashmir. It was quite safe for the people during NC Cong rule. I have heard locals believe that Gulam Nabi Azad the only Non Kashmiri CM was the best ever in the history as the development projects were initiated in Jammu as previously there used to be Kashmiri bias. Current government doesn't hold a candle to the peace in that era... Power hungry clowns made a corrupt Anti national collision with PDP & we all saw Green posters of BJP. In the valley. Nobody should be fooled by their antics. PM lying in Parliament recently about Kashmir being safe was a slap on the faces of Kashmiri Hindus. Dogras & Hindus will likely wipe them out next time. HMO is silent of having elections. Local BJP leaders know their fate as well. Kuch nhi milna ab Jammu se bhi It’s either KPs or Intifada on streets. Pick your poison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 36 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Indeed hiding behind those guys is getting lame... They have the power this time. They are willing to give scholarships to Kashmiri muslims but not local Hindus who are actual minority. Government has not submitted or put an effort to do anything about those pleas in supreme court. No investment, no outsider settlement, no colonies have been established in the valley. Art370 removal is only on paper... Ulta labour class from UP/Bihar who used to work safely &, Hindu govt employees are not even safe. Situation is so bad I have seen Hindu policeman asking for Transfers in Jammu. BJP bhakts are deliberately closing their eyes as their Almighty PM said sub changa hai... And their loyalty to him matters not facts on ground. Again that party that forms a coalition with PDP & freakin mehbooba Mufti as CM (first time ever) has no credibility to talk sh*** about Congress. Where is distress in K? Wahan pe sab tirange hi tirange as per congressis’ supreme leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Where is distress in K? Wahan pe sab tirange hi tirange as per congressis’ supreme leader Okay so u are choosing to ignore the part Where he said he met with KP delegation & blasted the moron LG who is not giving them salaries? /as they had to flee coz of target killing. Rahul is not that stupid to say on Indian land that he is not safe.... And Tirangas are normal sight in the valley... And Srinagar of all places which is infinitely safer than say Shopian or Pulwama or South Kashmir. Wo konsa Gaaun bastion ma jaa raha hai... Where the actual sh** is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: It’s either KPs or Intifada on streets. Pick your poison How about both? Isn't that was happening in UPA 1 and UPA 2? At least civilians weren't dying. I will take that anyday. Anti terror operations have been going on since 90's... So Nothing new to see what BJP is doing. Ulta Congress govt. Has been previously charged with going too hard several times. Media blackout obviously helped them. This is how u maintain peace with a iron fist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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