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Agnipath scheme unveiled: Govt unveils radical changes in recruitment of soldiers

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First balanced opinion on this issue. The veterans’ concern is valid. 
 

https://www.firstpost.com/india/hows-the-josh-why-centres-new-agnipath-recruitment-programme-for-soldiers-is-considered-revolutionary-10792361.html

 

25% of 46k will be retained. A lot of states have promised them being preferred for central and state police force. Corporations Will welcome trained military for various services 

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39 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Provide a link for your claim. Not opinions of known disrupters. There is no impact to those hired till now, why would they stop the pension?

I'm not talking about people who have already been hired, but about applicants who will work for four years. What will they do after four years? Where will they go? ,75% of them will be kicked out from their jobs. they won't get any pension.

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Sarkari leeches who will still keep giving lectures on muh paltan ki izzat muh jazba junoon Josh muh patriotism. I have more respect for PMCs like Blackwater and Wagner because at least they are honest in their intentions and tell you upfront they are in this for the money and nothing else. And they have the audacity to call other Baniyas :hysterical:

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22 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Hearing regimental system won't be changed now...  GOI is sending mixed messages through these sources. 

https://www.financialexpress.com/defence/no-change-being-done-to-armys-regimental-system-say-govt-sources/2562891/

Meanwhile internet snapped in Haryana boooom baaam

If they are not changing traditional regimental system then there shouldn't be an issue, i guess. Protest must end.

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17 minutes ago, speedheat said:

I'm not talking about people who have already been hired, but about applicants who will work for four years. What will they do after four years? Where will they go? ,75% of them will be kicked out from their jobs. they won't get any pension.

They get salary for 4 years and severance package (12 lakhs). These are only in the lower ranks. Officers are not hired in this scheme . They will be preferred in CRPF and State police forces.

 

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55 minutes ago, speedheat said:

If they are not changing traditional regimental system then there shouldn't be an issue, i guess. Protest must end.

Yes but they should come out & clear this...  Recruitment is pending for more than 2-3 years now.  Current students who were preparing have definite reason to feel angry. 

I think least could do is implement this in a structural manner.   This is irresponsible behavior to say the least. 

Misinformation can easily spread with gov portals silent on the core issues. 

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2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

They get salary for 4 years and severance package (12 lakhs). These are only in the lower ranks. Officers are not hired in this scheme . They will be preferred in CRPF and State police forces.

 

 

So they're retiring at  24-26, with no job guarantee  and no pension, after working for an organization that puts their lives at risk.

Good.

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36 minutes ago, speedheat said:

 

So they're retiring at  24-26, with no job guarantee  and no pension, after working for an organization that puts their lives at risk.

Good.

Instead of some working for 19 years in non-combat roles, polishing shoes, getting groceries, driving vehicles of officers, colonels and earning pension, they get better prospects outside. They get up to 15 lakhs as severance, which 24 year old has 12-15 lakh savings.  Most of jawans don’t get to fight in the field, it is an elite force with special training and they get into regiments. The 80% of lower ranks end up in support roles. Also, due to huge existing personnel (15 lakhs) , recruitment was stopped for last two years. Now at least some get recruited and 25% for life as well. 

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Instead of some working for 19 years in non-combat roles, polishing shoes, getting groceries, driving vehicles of officers, colonels and earning pension, they get better prospects outside. They get up to 15 lakhs as severance, which 24 year old has 12-15 lakh savings.  Most of jawans don’t get to fight in the field, it is an elite force with special training and they get into regiments. The 80% of lower ranks end up in support roles. Also, due to huge existing personnel (15 lakhs) , recruitment was stopped for last two years. Now at least some get recruited and 25% for life as well. 

 

I am aware of this but what if someone wishes to continue serving in  army after four years?

 

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3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

They can choose to perform better and be part of the 25% crème de la crème. Meritocracy dude!

Even if they work hard, there is no certainty because the margin is only 25% and 75% will be tossed out. Fenku is here to play games, all he wants is to get rid of the pension.

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21 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Even if they work hard, there is no certainty because the margin is only 25% and 75% will be tossed out. Fenku is here to play games, all he wants is to get rid of the pension.

Officers have short service commission, it is the same principle for jawans now. They are able to recruit now, instead of being stopped in last 2 years with bloated personnel (15 lakhs) . Army or defence forces is not a lifetime employment agency 

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41 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Officers have short service commission, it is the same principle for jawans now. They are able to recruit now, instead of being stopped in last 2 years with bloated personnel (15 lakhs) . Army or defence forces is not a lifetime employment agency 

That does not mean you switch to 4 year duty tour model overnight with no guarantee of jobs in future. Those who are fit and wish to serve in the army after four years will find it difficult. Fenku here just want to get rid of pension and save money.

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Officers have short service commission, it is the same principle for jawans now. They are able to recruit now, instead of being stopped in last 2 years with bloated personnel (15 lakhs) . Army or defence forces is not a lifetime employment agency 

Officers are extremely qualified . They are easily absorbed in private sector through their skills. OTH Soldier is least qualified and only has physical fitness and physique. The majority of the job ex Soldiers do in India is security guard.

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