Sarfaraz Khan

[tapandrun]

4 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

All done as part of "Save the seniors" campaign 

Right now its branding and marketing thing. bcci is looking for new faces of ind cricket.

Gill ticks many boxes , pant and kl were looked as the successor to kolhi/rohit/dhoni but they are nowhere near that so right now they are stop gap till gill plus some1 else gets going 

[tweaker]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Right now its branding and marketing thing. bcci is looking for new faces of ind cricket.

Gill ticks many boxes , pant and kl were looked as the successor to kolhi/rohit/dhoni but they are nowhere near that so right now they are stop gap till gill plus some1 else gets going 

Abhishek

Riyan

Nitish

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Right now its branding and marketing thing. bcci is looking for new faces of ind cricket.

Gill ticks many boxes , pant and kl were looked as the successor to kolhi/rohit/dhoni but they are nowhere near that so right now they are stop gap till gill plus some1 else gets going 

 

Don't get this fetish for finding the "new face of Indian cricket". Cricket's a sport, not movies. Performances should be the only thing which matters. That's why we've to carry over the hill players for eternity. It should be a simple process - best players make it to the team. That's the reason Aussies track record is so enviable as they're ruthless. They didn't hesitate dropping Steve Waugh for 2003 WC in favor of Symonds despite Steve Waugh instrumental in them winning the previous WC.

 

And look at us carrying corpses of Kohli and Rohit Sharma despite them not doing anything close to what Waugh did. That's the reason Aussies keep on winning on the global stage whereas we have to endure a decade with 0 titles despite us having our best bowling lineup in our history.

[tapandrun]

13 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Don't get this fetish for finding the "new face of Indian cricket". Cricket's a sport, not movies. Performances should be the only thing which matters. That's why we've to carry over the hill players for eternity. It should be a simple process - best players make it to the team. That's the reason Aussies track record is so enviable as they're ruthless. They didn't hesitate dropping Steve Waugh for 2003 WC in favor of Symonds despite Steve Waugh instrumental in them winning the previous WC.

 

And look at us carrying corpses of Kohli and Rohit Sharma despite them not doing anything close to what Waugh did. That's the reason Aussies keep on winning on the global stage whereas we have to endure a decade with 0 titles despite us having our best bowling lineup in our history.

Any professional sport is a commercial activity, lot of mny is involved in it. So barding and marketing is natural.

Every sports has a face nba has james, chess has magnus, tennis has roger olympics had bolt and phelps, football as ronaldo and messi.  No one can ensure good game but they can ensure that a certain player is playing, people would come to watch them.

 

People like to follow these sports personalities making them marketable, ppl like to wear what these people are wearing, play with same equipment as these players are playing so comes the marketing. 

 

Its natural for companies to associate themselves with them which brings sponsorships to the players and organization they are associated with them

 

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Any professional sport is a commercial activity, lot of mny is involved in it. So barding and marketing is natural.

Every sports has a face nba has james, chess has magnus, tennis has roger olympics had bolt and phelps, football as ronaldo and messi.  No one can ensure good game but they can ensure that a certain player is playing, people would come to watch them.

 

People like to follow these sports personalities making them marketable, ppl like to wear what these people are wearing, play with same equipment as these players are playing so comes the marketing. 

 

Its natural for companies to associate themselves with them which brings sponsorships to the players and organization they are associated with them

 

 

My point is that you don't have to manufacture a face, it'll happen organically. Given cricket is the prominent sport in India, BCCI doesn't even need to do anything to sell it. NBA, Tennis, NFL, MLB, NHL etc. have to do it as they're competing against each other. What's cricket's competition in India? Also, those players perform else they're replaced by someone else. Once Federer faded, Nadal and then Djokovic took over. Nobody continues backing players despite performances the way we do with seniors.

 

Australia didn't have to force anyone down their viewers' throats. Every one of their stars like Steve Smith, Warner, Cummins, Head etc.  performed and if they didn't they were overtaken by others. Same with England, i.e. look at Root. But here we're flogging the same dead horses. Market those who perform. Example Jaiswal, Bumrah, Pant or anyone else such as Jurel or Rinku as long as they perform. Once they stop doing so replace them with someone who does. It's not an elected position but a performance based one.

[BacktoCricaddict]

6 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

My point is that you don't have to manufacture a face, it'll happen organically. Given cricket is the prominent sport in India, BCCI doesn't even need to do anything to sell it. NBA, Tennis, NFL, MLB, NHL etc. have to do it as they're competing against each other. What's cricket's competition in India? Also, those players perform else they're replaced by someone else. Once Federer faded, Nadal and then Djokovic took over. Nobody continues backing players despite performances the way we do with seniors.

 

Australia didn't have to force anyone down their viewers' throats. Every one of their stars like Steve Smith, Warner, Cummins, Head etc.  performed and if they didn't they were overtaken by others. Same with England, i.e. look at Root. But here we're flogging the same dead horses. Market those who perform. Example Jaiswal, Bumrah, Pant or anyone else such as Jurel or Rinku as long as they perform. Once they stop doing so replace them with someone who does. It's not an elected position but a performance based one.

Selector and TM response.

Edited October 4, 2024 by BacktoCricaddict

[Vk1]

8 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

My point is that you don't have to manufacture a face, it'll happen organically. Given cricket is the prominent sport in India, BCCI doesn't even need to do anything to sell it. NBA, Tennis, NFL, MLB, NHL etc. have to do it as they're competing against each other. What's cricket's competition in India? Also, those players perform else they're replaced by someone else. Once Federer faded, Nadal and then Djokovic took over. Nobody continues backing players despite performances the way we do with seniors.

 

Australia didn't have to force anyone down their viewers' throats. Every one of their stars like Steve Smith, Warner, Cummins, Head etc.  performed and if they didn't they were overtaken by others. Same with England, i.e. look at Root. But here we're flogging the same dead horses. Market those who perform. Example Jaiswal, Bumrah, Pant or anyone else such as Jurel or Rinku as long as they perform. Once they stop doing so replace them with someone who does. It's not an elected position but a performance based one.

 

we definitely need superstars in T20s & ODIs. 

[Suhaan]

25 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

 

we definitely need superstars in T20s & ODIs. 

Only the performers automatically become superstars

BCCI thought kela as next shuperstarrr but he looked superstarved,meek,lost ,manhus because of his pathetic attitude towards certain situations

 

[Ultimate_Game]

43 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

 

we definitely need superstars in T20s & ODIs. 

 

They will come on their own just like Jaiswal and Rinku did. And they've Bumrah and possibly Pandya as well. Hell, even Axar is a T20 star.

 

But continuing with over the hill players, or anointing "special one" in Gill is a recipe for disaster, and one of the major reasons we didn't win a single title for more than a decade.

Edited October 5, 2024 by Ultimate_Game

[Vk1]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Only the performers automatically become superstars

BCCI thought kela as next shuperstarrr but he looked superstarved,meek,lost ,manhus because of his pathetic attitude towards certain situations

 

having seen klr for so many years whoever thought of him to be a superstar 

[Suhaan]

13 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

having seen klr for so many years whoever thought of him to be a superstar 

Actually he did very verywell in the 2016-2017 (Austour of India)

That was natural for everyone to go gaga over him,he was way talented

Helped us win T20 series in Eng by playing his part but regresses alarmingly thereafter

[jigjig]

He is too fat. 

[Lord]

12 hours ago, jigjig said:

He is too fat. 

 

Scores double tons for fun in hot conditions, thats fit enough.

[jigjig]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Scores double tons for fun in h ot conditions, thats fit enough.

 We need to set very high standards on fitness , at the least in cricket 

[Lord]

6 minutes ago, jigjig said:

 We need to set very high standards on fitness , at the least in cricket 

start with the captain then. No use of fitness if you can't do your primary job

[jigjig]

Just now, Lord said:

start with the captain then. No use of fitness if you can't do your primary job

Captain cannot be kicked out immediately, but till then why to encourage unfit players 

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, jigjig said:

Captain cannot be kicked out immediately, but till then why to encourage unfit players 

 

Why not? Apply the same criteria for everyone 

[jigjig]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Why not? Apply the same criteria for everyone 

Yes. Any new captain should be fit

[Chaos]

What is this fight

[Lord]

1 hour ago, jigjig said:

Yes. Any new captain should be fit

 

Why new lol. Drop Rohit if you want to enforce fitness.