zen Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 When a region is being divided on the grounds of religion, which community quietly accepts secularism despite being the majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, zen said: Yes, Israel is in a tense situation as it is constantly at war. Israel has 17-18% of Muslim population, backed up by hostile neighbouring Islamic countries (Iran has deployed militant groups like Hezbollah and also wants to nuke it). Israel has strengthened itself at multiple levels (including by forging relationships with major countries). Israel has a pretty strong lobbying in US & West... In fact might be strongest. US Deep state loves Israel. Plus MOSSAD has pretty much infiltrated in every corner of the world. Israel's capabilities are unmatched in middle east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: Israel has a pretty strong lobbying in US & West... In fact might be strongest. US Deep state loves Israel. Plus MOSSAD has pretty much infiltrated in every corner of the world. Israel's capabilities are unmatched in middle east. Yes, Israel, over the years, has strengthened itself at multiple levels. It stood for itself. In the 40s, it faced many challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, zen said: When a region is being divided on the grounds of religion, which community quietly accepts secularism despite being the majority? Blame Congress, their Brit educated socialists and Gandhi-Nehru hold on the public. They thwarted the Hindu leaders and we are still paying the price for their follies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Blame Congress, their Brit educated socialists and Gandhi-Nehru hold on the public. They thwarted the Hindu leaders and we are still paying the price for their follies And India is paying the price for it even today (since the foundation was not laid properly. May be aping west can only take Ind so far) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 https://hindi.opindia.com/national/haryana-palwal-vicky-bharadwaj-attack-by-knife-during-birthday-celebration-accused-anjum-and-bilal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 1:04 PM, vayuu1 said: buffoons like Mohammad zubair,this sarva garam vadapao of yours is equally responsible for each and every kishan bharwad, chandan mishra,ankit and now kanhaiyalal, nobody justifies lynching Cycle is like this. Event >outrage> generalise > othering> marginalised section> bigger event > bigger outrage>...>civil problem> civil war >crimes on humanity> secession>reconciliation. You gotta short circuit Reach reconciliation faster and that needs critical mass of prudent individuals in both warring sections in majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 16 hours ago, zen said: And India is paying the price for it even today (since the foundation was not laid properly. May be aping west can only take Ind so far) Apeing China will work. Since we are good in apeing. summary end for organised religion with a fair amount of state prejudice with kinetic force. Crush all religion and make religion bigots mfrs sing national anthem and mandatory service in army lavatories. speedheat and Clarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 10:20 PM, sandeep said: way to miss the point. He's portraying an injured pscyhe who has resorted to stereotyping innocents due to his suffering and personal tragedy. And here you are, using it to showcase your own bigotry. Its this sort of diseased mindset that leads a community to genocide. This is the kind of blanket generalizations that Pakistanis made about Bangladeshis - their culture is too hindu, they are not muslim enough, they need to be "taught a lesson". That kind of societal acceptance of bigotry naturally ended up in the genocide of Bengalis by Pakistanis. I do not think you realize what sort of a slippery slope you are on, when you think that you are "agreeing" with the words of this fictional character. I could easily just resort to name-calling and insult you, but I don't want to do that, it will just descend into the gutter of back and forth hurling of trash. I'd much rather have you reconsider what you are trying to say. Often times, one can get carried away with a particular train of thought, or a point of 'argument', and go too far. Although my blood boiled with what happened at Udaipur, I'm aware what an eye for an eye will result in. The desire for revenge will only destroy our intellect further. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 7:17 AM, coffee_rules said: That movie’s dialogues resonates with the public now more than those times, although it was not intended. It's a cheap copy of "A few good men" - I didn't even know about it before reading on ICF. There's very little doubt in my mind that it had little to do with Kashmir, it's mostly your atypical Chana Masala Bollywood movie And I'm basing this on that one YT clip shamelessly copying this guy - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, R!TTER said: It's a cheap copy of "A few good men" - I didn't even know about it before reading on ICF. There's very little doubt in my mind that it had little to do with Kashmir, it's mostly your atypical Chana Masala Bollywood movie And I'm basing this on that one YT clip shamelessly copying this guy - Yes, it was a bad movie copied. so how does that make any difference to the way the dialogues for the brigadier was written? They adapted the American view of their Military to an Indian equivalent of the Military role in Kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 11:21 PM, Lone Wolf said: Personally a fan of XI Jinping's ideology about Islam. His speech in Xinjinag is a masterpiece.. NYT published it a while ago. This is a movie dialogue that has no significance in reality. There are over 20 crore Muslims in India & we can't take a hardcore approach. We saw how GOI got arm twisted in hours by foreign powers by a mere statement. Hindus are still in overwhelmingly in majority & yet act like Dhimmis. They blindly follow Ganga Jamuna tehzeeb & that includes both RW & LW. Hindus need a full on course correction & evolve with Time & adopt other ideas. It starts with respecting your own religion and culture, strengthen yourself from inside so much that you remain immune to diseases. Hindus have been easy punching bags for quite long, that is evident from how European Indologists wrote Indian history ( Buddha and Mahavira coming up with new religions to fight the evil Brahmins) BR Ambedkar is remembered for how he fought the evil Brahmins (while his remarks on Muslims is skillfully ignored). Brahmin literally became a gaali. The day we start caring for our identity, all problems can be solved without resorting to any form of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: They adapted the American view of their Military to an Indian equivalent of the Military role in Kashmir. It's nowhere near that, you saw the original? How does that story get typecast into this cheap clown show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, R!TTER said: It's nowhere near that, you saw the original? How does that story get typecast into this cheap clown show? Arry bhai, you are welcome to dislike the movie. I liked the dialogues attributed to the brigadier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, MechEng said: Although my blood boiled with what happened at Udaipur, I'm aware what an eye for an eye will result in. The desire for revenge will only destroy our intellect further. You confusing between brave and revenge. Hindus need to be brave, and the movie dialogue can be seen in that light. The problem, is that Hindus have outsourced their bravery completely to BJP. It's pathetic, and one has to learn to protect themselves and their community on their own. With or without anybody else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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