Announced - Indian squad for T20i and ODI series against England

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

SKY is a explosive and all round option for ODIs...  Hardik should play T20s for now I think.  

Milega chance kahi na kahi jarur milega..Pant, Shreyas, Pandya, Suryakumar ye 3 khelege lekin kisi match me Shreyas baithega and kisi match me Surya ya Pant ya Pandya.

[Lone Wolf]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

clearly iyer and hooda are ahead in pecking order. 

Kishen is backup opener

DK - specialist finisher

Hooda vs iyer - Backup middle order batsman , recent form n bowling going in hooda favour currently. 

 

If the squad is of lesser member then someone like kishen can do both backup opener-middle order batsman or DK cud on thin ice 

I don't think Kishan is backup opener at least in T20 series..  He probably will get full 3 games.   Although I'd like to see how he tackles Willey in T20 series..  That matchup sounds bad for him.  

Rohit & Dravid are backing him to the hilt.  

Hooda as a middle order option is quite superior one than Iyer. 

Kishan DK SKY Hardik are confirmed starters I reckon in T20 series along with Rohit

[Lone Wolf]

2 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Milega chance kahi na kahi jarur milega..Pant, Shreyas, Pandya, Suryakumar ye 3 khelege lekin kisi match me Shreyas baithega and kisi match me Surya ya Pant ya Pandya.

Dravid won't do much chopping and changing unless we are 2-0 up which is highly unlikely vs Eng. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

 

I can understand Hardik in T20 but what has he done in ODI's since 2017 Champions Trophy final, rather have a pure bat unless he starts bowling regularly.

he hasnt played enough

Best batsman in Aus ODI series and then batted pretty well in england series too.  U cant go with 5 bowlers 

he is bowling now, as a 6th bowling option u wont bowl every game. Pure bat ?? U cant expect someone to give pure bat results if u make him bat at 7 ....................bat rohit at that slot ..ohh wait he did and failed there 

[Majestic]

1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said:

I don't think Kishan is backup opener at least in T20 series..  He probably will get full 3 games.   Although I'd like to see how he tackles Willey in T20 series..  That matchup sounds bad for him.  

Rohit & Dravid are backing him to the hilt.  

Hooda as a middle order option is quite superior one than Iyer. 

Kishan DK SKY Hardik are confirmed starters I reckon in T20 series along with Rohit

For T20s, it would be :-

 

Rohit

Kishan

Hooda( Virat from 2nd game)

SKY

Pandya

DK( or Pant but he will bat higher)

Axar( then Jadeja after that)

Harshal( Bhuvi from 2nd game)

Avesh

Umran

Yuzi

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I don't think Kishan is backup opener at least in T20 series..  He probably will get full 3 games.   Although I'd like to see how he tackles Willey in T20 series..  That matchup sounds bad for him.  

Rohit & Dravid are backing him to the hilt.  

Hooda as a middle order option is quite superior one than Iyer. 

Kishan DK SKY Hardik are confirmed starters I reckon in T20 series along with Rohit

not in this series im talking about Wc............. , here he ll get full series . But this selection has shown that iyer and hooda are ahead in pecking order and dravid has been backing iyer and working on his short ball problem quite intensely 

Yea i like hooda better and he has more value then iyer, but i hve started to have my doubts on him to now for australia 

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Dravid won't do much chopping and changing unless we are 2-0 up which is highly unlikely vs Eng. 

He won't do much changes but because wo 4 khel rahe kaafi time se so they will get their chances, maybe third game but they will get the chance. Rest may not get chances. 

[Majestic]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

not in this series im talking about Wc............. , here he ll get full series . But this selection has shown that iyer and hooda are ahead in pecking order and dravid has been backing iyer and working on his short ball problem quite intensely 

Yea i like hooda better and he has more value then iyer, but i hve started to have my doubts on him to now for australia 

Naah, Kishan is ahead now in T20s. South Africa was a major nation and there Kishan did well while Iyer failed. In ODIs, Iyer is ahead in reckoning.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Majestic said:

For T20s, it would be :-

 

Rohit

Kishan

Hooda( Virat from 2nd game)

SKY

Pandya

DK( or Pant but he will bat higher)

Axar( then Jadeja after that)

Harshal( Bhuvi from 2nd game)

Avesh

Umran

Yuzi

it will be Umran vs Hashal (both cant bowl with new ball so both cant play together in one lineup)

Bhuvi and Bumrah will be sure starters if both are avl

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Majestic said:

Naah, Kishan is ahead now in T20s. South Africa was a major nation and there Kishan did well while Iyer failed. In ODIs, Iyer is ahead in reckoning.

 

kishen is backup opener so his spot in 15 is confirmed and he has full backing of rohit

Iyer battle is with hooda now for backup middle order batsman and dravid likes both of them a lot so it can go till last minute 

 

 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

10 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Australian series 2020. And can bowl.

 

I agree if he can bowl but I don't think he can, quite fragile. Max 4 overs, more suitable for t20's.

 

Also the ODI series you mentioned, he scored 2 50's one was scored in a loss, one in a dead rubber. He did not bowl in both matches.

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

it will be Umran vs Hashal (both cant bowl with new ball so both cant play together in one lineup)

Bhuvi and Bumrah will be sure starters if both are avl

Yes I mean that. But performance in 1st T20 will play a role for who stays and who goes away from the XI with Bhuvi and Bumrah back.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

 

I agree if he can bowl but I don't think he can, quite fragile. Max 4 overs, more suitable for t20's.

 

Also the ODI series you mentioned, he scored 2 50's one was scored in a loss, one in a dead rubber. He did not bowl in both matches.

one player dont win u games 

As 6th bowler thats enough overs and his body will gain strength and stamina with time 

Edited June 30, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[Majestic]

7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

kishen is backup opener so his spot in 15 is confirmed and he has full backing of rohit

Iyer battle is with hooda now for backup middle order batsman and dravid likes both of them a lot so it can go till last minute 

 

 

For 15, before Iyer and Hooda, there is another fight in middle order which is between Pant, Surya and DK.  So, one of these three will be backup middle order option anyways and Kishan is backup opener. That's it, 15 khatam.

 

It will be Kohli at 3, SKY at 4, Pandya at 5, DK 6. Or,

 

Kohli at 3, Pant at 4, SKY at 5, Pandya 6. So, whoever sits is a backup middle order option.

 

If 18 is picked them uske liye there will be fight between Iyer and Hooda for one spot.

Edited June 30, 2022 by Majestic

[Majestic]

11 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

 

I agree if he can bowl but I don't think he can, quite fragile. Max 4 overs, more suitable for t20's.

 

Also the ODI series you mentioned, he scored 2 50's one was scored in a loss, one in a dead rubber. He did not bowl in both matches.

4 overs from Pandya will do. Jadeja to bowl 6 and perhaps Iyer may also chip in with 1-2 overs.

[zen]

Rohit-Kohli-Pant-Jadeja-Axar all in a T20 squad!

 

No Samson and a wkt taking new ball bowler

 

Does the T20WC22 write off beings from here?

[Prabhdeep Singh]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

one player dont win u games 

As 6th bowler thats enough overs and his body will gain strength and stamina with time 

 

We can agree to disagree.

 

I think Hardik Pandya is pretty mediocre in international cricket.

 

Hopefully I am proved wrong but don't see it.

 

With regards to 'one player dont win u games', certain players have this levelled against them whereas as others have this narrative 'one player dont win u games', The yardstick should be the same for every player.

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

25 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

not in this series im talking about Wc............. , here he ll get full series . But this selection has shown that iyer and hooda are ahead in pecking order and dravid has been backing iyer and working on his short ball problem quite intensely 

Yea i like hooda better and he has more value then iyer, but i hve started to have my doubts on him to now for australia 

I heard Rahul is out for at least 2 months..  Which means Kishan will get almost every game in case he does well including Asia Cup.  So as of now he is 1st choice opener with Rohit.  

Kohli can open as well if Middle order spots have to be filled with form players. 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

42 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he hasnt played enough

Best batsman in Aus ODI series and then batted pretty well in england series too.  U cant go with 5 bowlers 

he is bowling now, as a 6th bowling option u wont bowl every game. Pure bat ?? U cant expect someone to give pure bat results if u make him bat at 7 ....................bat rohit at that slot ..ohh wait he did and failed there 

 

In relation to Rohit, he played 3 clutch innings early in his career at 5/6 in which India won their only t20 world title.

 

50*, 8* & 30*.

 

The reason Rohit bats up the order is due to his skill level, nobody is stopping Hardik from improving, but he has not shown the skill level that merits him to bat up the order (IPL not to be confused with International cricket). 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

I heard Rahul is out for at least 2 months..  Which means Kishan will get almost every game in case he does well including Asia Cup.  So as of now he is 1st choice opener with Rohit.  

Kohli can open as well if Middle order spots have to be filled with form players. 

yes he is out for 2 mnths n its golden chance for kishen