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2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Mhambrey did not even try to develop successors / backups for all-condition Fast bowlers Bumrah and Shami.

 

Kept preferring mediocre medium pacers with low ceiling, who do decently only in certain favourable conditions. 

 

 

I am worried about that tbh. Collectively sure. We can produce a good attack as back up but individually we don't have any atg potential pacer at the moment as a backup

 

Mayank is not ready

Kuldeep Sen, himashu, harshit rana, tyagi potentially, simarjeet, akashdeep

Vyshak, keverappa, gurnoor brar

 

None have been given game time to develop fml

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1 hour ago, Kron said:

I am worried about that tbh. Collectively sure. We can produce a good attack as back up but individually we don't have any atg potential pacer at the moment as a backup

 

Mayank is not ready

Kuldeep Sen, himashu, harshit rana, tyagi potentially, simarjeet, akashdeep

Vyshak, keverappa, gurnoor brar

 

None have been given game time to develop fml

 

 

We need to focus on Harshit and Mayank if we are looking for new all-condition strike bowlers. 

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On 7/5/2022 at 7:12 PM, BacktoCricaddict said:

Parasology 101 :-)!! 

 

If the coaching staff and TM ask the bowlers to bowl a certain way, they are just complying. For all of Dhoni's faults as a test captain, I will not forget the Lords test where he completely changed tactics and made Ishant Sharma pepper the Brits with short balls, and it worked. Just got to switch things up sometimes. 

i remember ishant for only 2 events that he did-

first when he bowled 145k -150k against ricky pointing and he brought ricky in such a situation that ricky was avoiding facing ishant and in his 6th over of the spell got out against him.

second is when he got 5 English wickets in 2 hours and all by bouncers.

apart from these two, he did have a few spells but no major achievement in his career.

today mukesh and avesh are no where close to ISHANT, even umesh is better than Mukesh and avesh. Huge surprise is avesh bowls more slow balls in a t20 than his usual 135k+ pace so his slow balls have become way too many and that's why he gets hit.

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16 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Hope he surprises us the way Bharat Arun did and has a similar impact :pray:

he would not get selected - dont worry.

ZAK V/s Vinay Kumar- difference is too much.

Vinay as coach could be good too but ZAK is next level , probably on of the best fast bowling coach of the world. 

I can guarantee that if ZAK is selected , we would not get trundlers playing for INDIA and who ever plays for INDIA will be highly Skilled too.

Arshdeep and BOOM will become more skilled and SHammi who has bowled with ZAK will probably be closing on his career but he will close his career on a HIGH.

 

Once I saw his 4 over spell in a stadium and ZAK was bowling for RCB- Bangalore IPL team. he was bowling or should I say trundling between 112 to 125k. 

in the entire spell he bowled probably 3 to 4 balls around 133K else all under 125K. I was sure that some batsman will sort him out and hit him badly.

i evevn told my son that zak's days are over and he would be hit very badly- nothing like that happened, he hardly gave 24 runs in 4 overs and got 2 wickets on a flat PATTA wicket when all other bowlers were getting hit for more than 11 runs per over.

i could not figure out what was ZAK doing and he was not getting hit. till today I feel why the batsman did not hit him that day.

 

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5 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

he would not get selected - dont worry.

ZAK V/s Vinay Kumar- difference is too much.

Vinay as coach could be good too but ZAK is next level , probably on of the best fast bowling coach of the world. 

I can guarantee that if ZAK is selected , we would not get trundlers playing for INDIA and who ever plays for INDIA will be highly Skilled too.

Arshdeep and BOOM will become more skilled and SHammi who has bowled with ZAK will probably be closing on his career but he will close his career on a HIGH.

 

Once I saw his 4 over spell in a stadium and ZAK was bowling for RCB- Bangalore IPL team. he was bowling or should I say trundling between 112 to 125k. 

in the entire spell he bowled probably 3 to 4 balls around 133K else all under 125K. I was sure that some batsman will sort him out and hit him badly.

i evevn told my son that zak's days are over and he would be hit very badly- nothing like that happened, he hardly gave 24 runs in 4 overs and got 2 wickets on a flat PATTA wicket when all other bowlers were getting hit for more than 11 runs per over.

i could not figure out what was ZAK doing and he was not getting hit. till today I feel why the batsman did not hit him that day.

 

 

Let's see what Zak does. I'm not too hung up on either one as as sometimes a less talented player is a better coach. As an example who would've thought Bharat Arun would be such a great bowling coach despite being an average bowler. Similarly no guarantees someone like Zak or Tendulkar would be amazing coaches. The main skill of a coach is to understand the players, relate to them, and teach them. A gifted player may struggle to do so compared to someone who wasn't so good themselves. Vinay Kumar could very well be a good coach.

 

But I wanted to go back to Bharat Arun as he has proven himself to be a great coach. That series in Aus in 2020-21 with newbies was outstanding where he made sure every bowler stuck to plans and bowl with discipline which I'd never seen even an experienced bowling attack seldom do. Rather than hope Zak or Vinay Kumar recreate the same magic, why not bring back Bharat Arun instead? To me he has been the best coach we ever had, and much better than the likes of Vikram Rathour or other sifarshi picks we get stuck with. But I hope that the next coach can be as good or better than Bharat and along with Gambhir, exceed what Bharat Arun was able to do :pray:

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48 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Let's see what Zak does. I'm not too hung up on either one as as sometimes a less talented player is a better coach. As an example who would've thought Bharat Arun would be such a great bowling coach despite being an average bowler. Similarly no guarantees someone like Zak or Tendulkar would be amazing coaches. The main skill of a coach is to understand the players, relate to them, and teach them. A gifted player may struggle to do so compared to someone who wasn't so good themselves. Vinay Kumar could very well be a good coach.

 

But I wanted to go back to Bharat Arun as he has proven himself to be a great coach. That series in Aus in 2020-21 with newbies was outstanding where he made sure every bowler stuck to plans and bowl with discipline which I'd never seen even an experienced bowling attack seldom do. Rather than hope Zak or Vinay Kumar recreate the same magic, why not bring back Bharat Arun instead? To me he has been the best coach we ever had, and much better than the likes of Vikram Rathour or other sifarshi picks we get stuck with. But I hope that the next coach can be as good or better than Bharat and along with Gambhir, exceed what Bharat Arun was able to do :pray:

Someone said something about him ageing out or something.

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