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Ponniyan selvan part 1-teaser

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Sangam literature claiming Aryan invasion is highly debatable in terms of interpretation. Moreover chronologically there are absurd predictions of timelines of Sangam that don’t align with even western historians. If you are debating from Wikipedia historians then you can’t be so very right . Our puranas timelines don’t match with the western historians’ and it is debatable 

While interpretation is indeed dodgy..  But in this rare case timeline fits exactly... 

Nedunjcheliyan I ( 270 BCE) or Aariya Padai kadantha Nedunjezhiya Pandiyan (A Pandyan King who defeated the Aryan intrusion)  who in fact is Bindusara not a rig vedic so called Aryan... 

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14 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Ashokan pillar edicts name the areas where he said that war of Dharma has been won & he mentioned it extends up to Tamraparni river in the extreme south.  Also accounts say that he was chief guest in a Pandyan court once.  So they were kinda like vassal states on a friendly term. 

It's not mentioned that he conquered these lands like his father Bindusara who tried very hard...  But got repelled by combined forces of Moovendras (Chera + Chola +Pandya)  In fact he tried multiple times in a span of 13 years.  He succeeded in establishing his bases on the outskirts of these kingdoms like  Thulu Nadu (pazhi fort).. But wasn't able to advance further. 

This is the same expedition that Sangam literature calls  large so called Aryan invasion into Tamil land. 

This is complete misreading of the Edict, the edict doesn't say Ashoka won a war, but it is talking about spread of Buddhism. The Edict in fact says that this is different from violent war. Going by your interpretation are you claiming Ptolemy, Antigonos, Magas and Alexander are vasals of Ashoka?

 

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Now it is conquest by Dhamma that Beloved-of-the-Gods considers to be the best conquest.[27] And it (conquest by Dhamma) has been won here, on the borders, even six hundred yojanas away, where the Greek king Antiochos rules, beyond there where the four kings named Ptolemy, Antigonos, Magas and Alexander rule, likewise in the south among the Cholas, the Pandyas, and as far as Tamraparni.[28] Here in the king's domain among the Greeks, the Kambojas, the Nabhakas, the Nabhapamkits, the Bhojas, the Pitinikas, the Andhras and the Palidas, everywhere people are following Beloved-of-the-Gods' instructions in Dhamma. Even where Beloved-of-the-Gods' envoys have not been, these people too, having heard of the practice of Dhamma and the ordinances and instructions in Dhamma given by Beloved-of-the-Gods, are following it and will continue to do so. This conquest has been won everywhere, and it gives great joy -- the joy which only conquest by Dhamma can give. But even this joy is of little consequence. Beloved-of-the-Gods considers the great fruit to be experienced in the next world to be more important.

I have had this Dhamma edict written so that my sons and great-grandsons may not consider making new conquests, or that if military conquests are made, that they be done with forbearance and light punishment, or better still, that they consider making conquest by Dhamma only, for that bears fruit in this world and the next. May all their intense devotion be given to this which has a result in this world and the next.

   

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5 hours ago, sandeep said:

not sure why you are getting all worked up for.  I'm talking about the cinematic resemblance, which is undeniable.  You are free to put your head in the sand though.

Who the * cares about cinematic resemblance it some ape **** wood ofcourse it will all look the same.  Ponnien selvan was a very fine novel written by Kalki its original material  you are out of your depth trying to tell Tamils that its copied.

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This is a cult novel in Tamil literature. Many directors attempted and never got to realize it.  Maniratnam casting of Aishwarya rai is likely to be a failure. He may very well mess this one up. Too many big names is never a good idea in an epic movie.

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

His Muse? She started her film career in his movie

 

For sure, but this is non sense. Apart from being sub par actress, she doesn't fit the parts. Starting from Iruvar, I can only imagine that Mani is smitten. There is no other justification. 

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