ash Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Personally didn’t like the movie, it was not true to the book. But the general review seems to be very good and it is breaking records. Happy for Manirathnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, ash said: Personally didn’t like the movie, it was not true to the book. But the general review seems to be very good and it is breaking records. Happy for Manirathnam What did you not like ? Nothing can be like the book. It's a different medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: What did you not like ? Nothing can be like the book. It's a different medium. The lanka portions didn’t work out at all, could have cut the songs and added more scenes. Vandhiyedhevan journey is the main USP of the book but here he just moves from one place to another suddenly without any hindrance. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 9:16 AM, ash said: The lanka portions didn’t work out at all, could have cut the songs and added more scenes. Vandhiyedhevan journey is the main USP of the book but here he just moves from one place to another suddenly without any hindrance. It is something large number of characters moving the story. This should have been released as a series. I think it is hard to encapsulate everything in 2 movies. I was always skeptical about casting, mani directing this. If he has done justice even 50% that is a success. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Mani intended the movie to be Pan-India. But it turned out to be Pan-Tamil movie. Anyway producers must be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) On 7/8/2022 at 3:04 PM, kepler37b said: Agreed. They should stick just to the celebration of story. But instead the main aim here is to "prove the pride of Tamil Cinema" by becoming the greatest Commercial success. 10 hours ago, kepler37b said: Mani intended the movie to be Pan-India. But it turned out to be Pan-Tamil movie. Anyway producers must be happy. You seem to know an awful lot about what maniratnam or 'mani' as you called thought. I should say i am quite impressed. Edited October 5, 2022 by Vilander Stan AF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 yet to watch the movie and no plans to read the book funny thing is few say the movie is anti-hindu kind , but again few more say that the movie is painting Cholas as hard core Hindus .. in Tamil literature that i read ( school books ) , Shaivist and vaishnavist kings were cruel to their opposite sect which northies many not get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, velu said: yet to watch the movie and no plans to read the book funny thing is few say the movie is anti-hindu kind , but again few more say that the movie is painting Cholas as hard core Hindus .. in Tamil literature that i read ( school books ) , Shaivist and vaishnavist kings were cruel to their opposite sect which northies many not get it I think this is limited to Tamil history because others in south also have not read it, but only seen in movies from TN.. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 hours ago, velu said: yet to watch the movie and no plans to read the book funny thing is few say the movie is anti-hindu kind , but again few more say that the movie is painting Cholas as hard core Hindus .. in Tamil literature that i read ( school books ) , Shaivist and vaishnavist kings were cruel to their opposite sect which northies many not get it Purely Dravidian influenced history is what you have been fed. Kings supported both Vaishnavism and Shaivism. Kings were cruel to each other not because of sects , but territorial. Very temples were destroyed with this divide, proves it was not people who were divided. Dravidas influenced by Marxists and Missionaries like Caldwell have always been fighting for a separate Tamil identity which is India related. Like Aryans, Sanskrit/Hindi and even Vedic vs Tantric. Shavism predates Vedas, so it is they are trying to assimilate into one common religion. Now they are saying Raja Raja Chola was not Hindu!! Even in Karnataka they tried this Lingayats are not Hindus movement which caused Congress to lose power. velu and ash 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Purely Dravidian influenced history is what you have been fed. Kings supported both Vaishnavism and Shaivism. Kings were cruel to each other not because of sects , but territorial. Very temples were destroyed with this divide, proves it was not people who were divided. Dravidas influenced by Marxists and Missionaries like Caldwell have always been fighting for a separate Tamil identity which is India related. Like Aryans, Sanskrit/Hindi and even Vedic vs Tantric. Shavism predates Vedas, so it is they are trying to assimilate into one common religion. Now they are saying Raja Raja Chola was not Hindu!! Even in Karnataka they tried this Lingayats are not Hindus movement which caused Congress to lose power. in TN dmk & cos stupid we are not hinuds logic can easily be countered by arguing that all these Shaivist and vaishnavist are a sub-sect of hindusim .. ( also tamils favorite god is murugan who is the son of shiva and married the daughter of vishnu ) calling cholas were not hindus is total dumb and they r mostly for masala news there are literatures about kings forcing ( advised by their priest / kulagurus ) other sect to accept their superiority .. i am not 100% sure , there is a tamil literature/poem about how shiva himself came back to rescue his devotee coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianRenegade Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 7:16 AM, ash said: The lanka portions didn’t work out at all, could have cut the songs and added more scenes. Vandhiyedhevan journey is the main USP of the book but here he just moves from one place to another suddenly without any hindrance. should have been a 3 part movie or a web series. Personally disappointed songs were cut, ponni nadhi & deveralan attam are the highlights of the first part of the book. Both were murdered for reducing the run time. Should have used voice overs to set important context for many who didn't read the book, I am sure they didn't understand who some of the characters where & why they are doing what they are doing. Apart from these gripes the film didn't try to be a bahubali & stayed true to kaklis genre, was quite watchable for even a couple of times, since the scenes moved so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Apparently Cholas were not Hindus. Well who are Hindus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Apparently Cholas were not Hindus. Well who are Hindus. Periyarists at their best. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Muslims are Muslims. Christians are Christians. But Hindus are Tamils. Even Periyar ´it’s be wondering. What specimen have I created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Muslims are Muslims. Christians are Christians. But Hindus are Tamils. Even Periyar ´it’s be wondering. What specimen have I created. Periyarists and Dravidians are the dumbest and most vile people I have ever seen in my life. Hypocrites to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Calling cholas are not Hindus is like calling Shias are not Muslims Clarke and ravishingravi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 hours ago, velu said: Calling cholas are not Hindus is like calling Shias are not Muslims Kamal Hassan said Cholas were not Hindus because the word didn't exist like Tuticorin. He thinks it was all Shaivism, Vaishnavism etc and they are not Hindus. This is the rebuttal on his pea-sized brain. ravishingravi and velu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 7 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Kamal Hassan said Cholas were not Hindus because the word didn't exist like Tuticorin. He thinks it was all Shaivism, Vaishnavism etc and they are not Hindus. This is the rebuttal on his pea-sized brain. Kamala Haasan has lost it. The things people do for politics. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 This controversy and this movie does help in making us look at sheer genius of Chola Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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