Surya kumar Yadav is a national treasure

[Need4Speed]

SKY is getting out almost the same way often..aren they checking whats this new issue he has developed..that he end up lofting the ball straight up..he used to hit sixes in similar manner around fine leg..may be he is just trying too hard..and mistiming\playing too early..

[Frustrated]

51 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

SKY is getting out almost the same way often..aren they checking whats this new issue he has developed..that he end up lofting the ball straight up..he used to hit sixes in similar manner around fine leg..may be he is just trying too hard..and mistiming\playing too early..

We are winning t20 matches more often these days despite SKY's failure.  That's masking lot of loopholes in the team.  Our TM (which has always been reactive rather than being proactive) won't be bothered to look into SKY or Samson's repeated flop shows as long as we keep winning.  This is likely to continue till we face group stage exit or a humiliating KO defeat in the next T20 WC.  (As luck will eventually run out).   

[singhvivek141]

SKY will be touching 35 this year. At max he can play T20 WC 2026 but definitely not after that.

Hope selectors realize that and start preparing for a replacement after the WC.

[Need4Speed]

2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

SKY will be touching 35 this year. At max he can play T20 WC 2026 but definitely not after that.

Hope selectors realize that and start preparing for a replacement after the WC.

True..he is mostly unorthodox..hand eye coordination..player..doesnt have a long shelf life left..

we need to squeeze whatever he has left in him..as while others are good too..I feel..Abhishek and him are the two batters who can bat with extreme strike rates..

When all other teams are also coming up with good strikers..these extreme SR players are the ones can kill the match inspite of opposite  teams having agressive batters too..

However..if he keeps on failing consistently..we will have to make some moves..as he is not getting younger and hand eye coordination will keep getting poorer..

[vvvslaxman]

Bowlers bowl a touch slow to him. He is early into his shots. I think CUmmins set the template in world cup final. He kept bowling cutters into the pitch. He had no answe as he couldn't use the pace or time it well enough.

[Ultimate_Game]

13 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

SKY is getting out almost the same way often..aren they checking whats this new issue he has developed..that he end up lofting the ball straight up..he used to hit sixes in similar manner around fine leg..may be he is just trying too hard..and mistiming\playing too early..

 

When your staple shot is across the line and based on a lot of things going your way, you're bound to struggle in the longer run. As soon as hand-eye corordination or reflexes are impacted even a little, you'll struggle. No batter in the history of the game had a "go to" shot of a scoop in the arc between fine leg and square leg. Literally everyone knows to have 2 men back behind square on the leg and change the pace and SKY will get caught.

[Need4Speed]

56 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Bowlers bowl a touch slow to him. He is early into his shots. I think CUmmins set the template in world cup final. He kept bowling cutters into the pitch. He had no answe as he couldn't use the pace or time it well enough.

yes but that pitch was not good as well..these t20 tracks are better..He should work to find answer to it..

[vvvslaxman]

8 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

yes but that pitch was not good as well..these t20 tracks are better..He should work to find answer to it..

 

His execution works only when the ball comes at expected speed as there is very little margin for error.  He should try other options before revisiting this shot.

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

His execution works only when the ball comes at expected speed as there is very little margin for error.  He should try other options before revisiting this shot.

yes thats what I meant too..explore other options as well..you cant be one trick pony..you get figured out..in that case..which is happening currently..

[tapandrun]

sky starts his innings with just 3 shots, if its pacer then the flick of the legs or that scoop-hook kind of a shot and if its spin its that big sweep.

He is getting trapped in those almost preemptive thinking he is not thinking any other shot, if its bit short he scoop-hooks if its full he flick.

Should try playing in the V for balls hit 4/6 there rather just coming and trying those 3 shots. Do not think he is found-out or have some issue.

The issue he has is short of the length rising ball that ball he got out to pak against in that wc match in Aus and he will get out every-time to that kind of ball with same shot guiding/edging to wk.

 

Sanju is genuine issue with high pace , he  has some time now can work on it, not that he is not able to hook or pull but high pace he needs to get into better positions  

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2025 by tapandrun

[maniac]

Bump. Our cricket version of Brahmos- the heartburn he is giving to padosis is heaven.

 

Surya Bhau we are with you  don’t care even if you score ducks for rest of your career (except against Pak)  . I am a fan  

[vvvslaxman]

He definitely is allowed a bad run. But getting out exactly the same way is annoying. He got out almost all the time to nothing balls.

[Gollum]

The images of SKY trying his legside lappa behind the wicket in 23 WC final when Cummins and co. smartly outfoxed him with pace off cutters halfway down on a sluggish pitch, tells us all we need to know about this guy's IQ and limitations. He kept trying, kept missing or mistiming, comedy gold. 

[rollingstoned]

Sky would've played as much as rahane in all formats if he had gotten a chance a decade ago. It's to his credit even as a late bloomer he has achieved this much and might lead India to a wc win. He used to have a reputation as a hot head which he had to correct when he was younger. 

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, rollingstoned said:

Sky would've played as much as rahane in all formats if he had gotten a chance a decade ago. It's to his credit even as a late bloomer he has achieved this much and might lead India to a wc win. He used to have a reputation as a hot head which he had to correct when he was younger. 

Bhai, Rahane was a complete batsman. Textbook technique, great shotmaking and defensive abilities, averaged in mid 60s when he first broke through into Indian team. That he underachieved is a different matter, but he had stuff. Till Kohli's 2016 season, Rahane was our best test batsman by a distance. His ceiling was very high, his best test knocks probably top even those of Fab 4.

 

Sky is a very limited batsman, too many flaws in his technique, he averages in early 40s after 15 FC seasons for a reason. He is a hardworkwer, selfless... appreciate his late bloomer ka journey. He has been recognized enough, even has a WC to his name. But his presence only weakens our 26 WC squad, and he isn't getting any younger....others will have to fo bulk of the lifting come WC time.

[rollingstoned]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Bhai, Rahane was a complete batsman. Textbook technique, great shotmaking and defensive abilities, averaged in mid 60s when he first broke through into Indian team. That he underachieved is a different matter, but he had stuff. Till Kohli's 2016 season, Rahane was our best test batsman by a distance. His ceiling was very high, his best test knocks probably top even those of Fab 4.

 

Sky is a very limited batsman, too many flaws in his technique, he averages in early 40s after 15 FC seasons for a reason. He is a hardworkwer, selfless... appreciate his late bloomer ka journey. He has been recognized enough, even has a WC to his name. But his presence only weakens our 26 WC squad, and he isn't getting any younger....others will have to fo bulk of the lifting come WC time.

I'm not saying he is as good as Rahane, just that if things had played out differently he would've been a part of the team since 2014 when we moved the oldies out and built a new team. 

Perhaps he is past his best but BCCI seems to like the effect his captaincy is having on the team, he is instinctive which works well in this format instead of rigidly sticking to template. 

[putrevus]

I supported this guy to even play test cricket.But he has so many technical issues plus he chokes under pressure.

 

You can be mr 360 but you need to play in front of the wicket also.

 

He has already played three t20 world cups.It is important for him to do well in remaining matches.

 

You cannot be supporting act on your best day.

[tapandrun]

Yes t20 is game or risk and reward but sky's number is t20i wc are v.bad he does not score much vs good team all his runs have come vs smaller team.

Its not that the sample size is small when he comes to the crease all he tried to do it play on legside , that flick hook shot vs pace and sweep vs spin. 

 

Every passing innings it looks like he is just becoming a leg-sided player.

 

2021 ICC T20 World Cup

 

Date	Opponent	Stage	Runs	Balls	Notes
24 Oct 2021	Pakistan	Group	11	8
27 Oct 2021	Namibia	Group	26	19
29 Oct 2021	Scotland	Group	6	2
31 Oct 2021	Afghanistan	Group	0	—	duck (ball data per scorecard).

 

 

2022 ICC T20 World Cup

 

Date	Opponent	Stage	Runs	Balls	Notes
24 Oct 2022	Pakistan	Group	15	10
27 Oct 2022	Netherlands	Group	51	25
30 Oct 2022	South Africa	Group	68	40
02 Nov 2022	Bangladesh	Group	30	16
06 Nov 2022	Zimbabwe	Super 12	73*	27	not out.
11 Nov 2022	England (Semi)	Semi-final	14	10

 

2024 ICC T20 World Cup 

 

Date	Opponent	Stage	Runs	Balls	Notes
06 Jun 2024	Ireland	Group	2	4
09 Jun 2024	Pakistan	Group	7	8
12 Jun 2024	USA	Group	50	49
14 Jun 2024	Canada	Group	0	0
Super 8 — 20 Jun 2024	Afghanistan	Super 8	53	28
Super 8 — 22 Jun 2024	Bangladesh	Super 8	6	2
Super 8 — 24 Jun 2024	Australia	Super 8	31	16
Semi-final — 27 Jun 2024	England	Semi-final	47	36
Final — 29 Jun 2024	South Africa	Final	3	4

 

 

Good score vs smaller team rest are bad to average

Edited September 24, 2025 by tapandrun

[StraightDrive26]

He needs to play a bit differently as all teams now know how he plays. You cannot come into bat on these slow pitches and try to flick balls from off and middle over fine-leg. At least start your innings playing some regular shots and when you are sure of the pace of the pitch you can start with your go to strokes. Surya is extremely frustrating as he keeps playing the same shot again and again and keeps getting out. If he does not change his game plan, he may not last too long in this team. There are a lot of them waiting outside to make it into the playing XI and we cannot carry a non-performer for a log time. 

 

The worrying part is his SR which is constantly on a decline. His SR in 2023 was 156, 2024 was 151 and now in 2025 it is 124. His average in the years mentioned is 48, 26 and 13 respectively. So in 2025 in 8 innings he averages 13 with a horrible SR of 124. Unless he improves, I don't see how he makes our best T20I XI.

Edited September 24, 2025 by StraightDrive26

[StraightDrive26]

His average under all captains is over 40 but since he has become the captain of the team it has been 27. So basically he isn't someone who can be a captain and a player. The sample size is big as well as this is over 26 games.