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27 minutes ago, Black Zero said:

Khushdil is clearly above in picking order, you are out of sync with their recent performances. Asif is just back up for Happy heart and Chachu. 

Based on what??  Khusdhil had a fluke cameo against Windies..  Failed vs Aus in that T20.

Asif Ali is probably UAE specialist for Pak...  Won them crunch games vs NZ & Afg. 

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Okayish team. People are really going overboard with their hype here. 

 

Barring the new ball spell from Afridi, there's nothing much in that unit to really give a challenge that the Indian players will worry about. Especially that bowling attack. Rauf, Shadab, Naseem are all halwa bowlers if attacked. 

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37 minutes ago, Norman said:

Okayish team. People are really going overboard with their hype here. 

 

Barring the new ball spell from Afridi, there's nothing much in that unit to really give a challenge that the Indian players will worry about. Especially that bowling attack. Rauf, Shadab, Naseem are all halwa bowlers if attacked. 

Rauf with his hard lengths was tough to go after for the likes of Pandya with his hard lengths in WT20.  He was bowling around 150 with fastest of 152.  His pace has dropped since then though. 

They all may as well get smashed if we survive Afridi initially but they are not a bad T20 outfit.  In ODI I'd give them no chance. 

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9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Rauf with his hard lengths was tough to go after for the likes of Pandya with his hard lengths in WT20.  He was bowling around 150 with fastest of 152.  His pace has dropped since then though. 

They all may as well get smashed if we survive Afridi initially but they are not a bad T20 outfit.  In ODI I'd give them no chance. 

Dahani is very good with hard length and he bowls at good pace 

Wasim jr is good with reverse 

 

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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Rauf with his hard lengths was tough to go after for the likes of Pandya with his hard lengths in WT20.  He was bowling around 150 with fastest of 152.  His pace has dropped since then though. 

They all may as well get smashed if we survive Afridi initially but they are not a bad T20 outfit.  In ODI I'd give them no chance. 

Raufs pace hasnt dropped.

He will hit high speeds in the asia cup if fit.

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11 minutes ago, the don said:

Raufs pace hasnt dropped.

He will hit high speeds in the asia cup if fit.

It has vs Aus guy was bowling around 140.. 143-144 being his top speeds.   He is ageing & is nearing 30 so normal he won't be as fast as he used to be. 

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Dahani is very good with hard length and he bowls at good pace 

Wasim jr is good with reverse 

 

Dahani in the ODI vs WI I saw was bowling around 140...  Quicks like Joseph & This McCoy are much quicker bowling around 148kph....  Joseph is rapid with his short balls at 90mph.  Except Iyer we are handling them alright so far. 

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2 hours ago, Norman said:

Okayish team. People are really going overboard with their hype here. 

 

Barring the new ball spell from Afridi, there's nothing much in that unit to really give a challenge that the Indian players will worry about. Especially that bowling attack. Rauf, Shadab, Naseem are all halwa bowlers if attacked. 

We said the same and got hammered in the t20 world cup game, once Pakistan get some momentum they are pretty difficult to stop so if India are 19-2 even guys like rauf, Imad step up their game. 

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10 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Dahani in the ODI vs WI I saw was bowling around 140...  Quicks like Joseph & This McCoy are much quicker bowling around 148kph....  Joseph is rapid with his short balls at 90mph.  Except Iyer we are handling them alright so far. 

Dahani can clock around 145.....remember in t20 u have to bowl just 4 overs so u can crank it up

At the end length matters, problem with these WI bowler is they ll bowl 1-2 good ones and then release pressure by bowling poor lengths. Other team bowlers wont release pressure even if they are bowling 5k slower . At the end u have to hit the Right length 

 

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10 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

We said the same and got hammered in the t20 world cup game, once Pakistan get some momentum they are pretty difficult to stop so if India are 19-2 even guys like rauf, Imad step up their game. 

Say whatever they are a high quality attack , they are towards inexperienced side so they ll have indifferent days 

 

at the end if they bowl crap they ll be put to sword 

If we bat badly we ll struggle

 

IF both perform well it ll be battle to watch 

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56 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

We said the same and got hammered in the t20 world cup game

 

And? How does that disapprove of my point? I said the "same" before that game as well that shaheen afridi's new ball spell will pretty much decide the game in the first 4 overs. And that's exactly what happened. 

 

It is no different now. Outside of Shaheen's new ball bowling, there is no one in that Pakistan team that should worry an Indian player pre-game. 

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6 minutes ago, Norman said:

 

And? How does that disapprove of my point? I said the "same" before that game as well that shaheen afridi's new ball spell will pretty much decide the game in the first 4 overs. And that's exactly what happened. 

 

It is no different now. Outside of Shaheen's new ball bowling, there is no one in that Pakistan team that should worry an Indian player pre-game. 

It wasn't just Shaheen's spell that decided the match, they kept getting wickets, imad kept up the pressure, rauf was terrific in the middle and at the death, sky got out to Hassan due to the dot balls created by Imad, shadab hardly bowled a bad ball, none from pant, sky, Pandya or jadeja looked settled.

 

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30 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Dahani can clock around 145.....remember in t20 u have to bowl just 4 overs so u can crank it up

At the end length matters, problem with these WI bowler is they ll bowl 1-2 good ones and then release pressure by bowling poor lengths. Other team bowlers wont release pressure even if they are bowling 5k slower . At the end u have to hit the Right length 

 

I'll say Joseph is well rounded...  He is a test quality pacer.  So length is not a issue with him.  In T20 good players use the pace sometimes against you & on less helpful tracks it can become a disadvantage.  From what I have seen Dahani ain't even remotely close to pace & hostility wise compared to Joseph who is borderline express bowler. 

Although he may as well trouble us but he didn't impressed me much vs WI

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27 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Say whatever they are a high quality attack , they are towards inexperienced side so they ll have indifferent days 

 

at the end if they bowl crap they ll be put to sword 

If we bat badly we ll struggle

 

IF both perform well it ll be battle to watch 

If they get it right consistently not many teams can cross over 180 against this Pak attack, not sure why Imad has been dropped, inconsistency will hurt them at some point. Once they have clear set plan/vision they tend to bring out their best cricket.

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9 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

If they get it right consistently not many teams can cross over 180 against this Pak attack, not sure why Imad has been dropped, inconsistency will hurt them at some point. Once they have clear set plan/vision they tend to bring out their best cricket.

nawaz offers more with bat but yea imad was so good in PP , one of the most underrated PP bowlers in world 

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1 hour ago, Mesky99 said:

It wasn't just Shaheen's spell that decided the match, they kept getting wickets

 

It was. Despite being 30/3 we made 152 with contributions from just Kohli and Pant. Wouldn't have happened if they "kept getting wickets". 

 

Had we got even a half decent start of 40/1 or so in the powerplay , things would have been whole lot different. So yes, It was Shaheen's double strike that won Pakistan that game. 

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20 minutes ago, Norman said:

 

It was. Despite being 30/3 we made 152 with contributions from just Kohli and Pant. Wouldn't have happened if they "kept getting wickets". 

 

Had we got even a half decent start of 40/1 or so in the powerplay , things would have been whole lot different. So yes, It was Shaheen's double strike that won Pakistan that game. 

We got 152 not 172, we couldn't once get away or dominated a passage of play, just when pant looked good shadab got him, same with Surya getting out to Hassan, so again they all chipped in when it mattered, it's not as if the rest of the bowlers went at 10 rpo

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18 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Iftikhar is solely picked coz he bats well against pace. Heard misbah he suggested this move to them last yr when t20 Wc was going on in UAE that pick someone like Asif ali in subcontinent n Ahmed overseas . They did exactly that.........they are picking players on conditions . He also bowls Off spin which is a plus sinze nawaz, khusdil are SLA and Shadab leggie

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mjt76_hhBU&t=8s - the i saw his innings in Aus and yes he looks very good on those wkts 

 

We are backing iyer before Australia :giggle:

Chacha Ifti  is too old to play well against pace, he plays well against spin, might be of some value in UAE but not Australia, he is very old. 

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