Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Karan Johar's Takht probably was shelved for similar reasons... it was shelved coz it went way over budget and post pandemic that budget wasnt viable. KJO is a smart guy so he saw it early. Brahamastra has been in making for many many yrs so they cudnt pull the plug or else if that film didnt went into production like takhat that also wud have also been shelved Ashwathama another project was shelved for same reason- many many high budget projects have been shelved due to pandemic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 10 hours ago, vayuu1 said: Most important thing u are forgetting is stars are overpaid, aamir srk charge 100 cr or close to it per film aamir, akshay and Ajay charge 75-80 cr though takes profit share from film guys like ranbir and ranvir charge 60-65 cr per film , while guys like kartik charge 40-45 and then govinda wannabe charge 30-35 same with sid not sure about ayushman and abba dabba jabba expression,bc itna paisa logey to script pe kya kaam karoge, content as well, bollywood need good scripts ASAT No aamir and srk dont charge anything now, SRK gets on board as producer and takes profit..........aamir takes huge chunk of profit only if his films crosses a certain number (for eg he ll only get money if films crosses 100 cr but then he gets a major %) Their strategies are correct Salman n Akshay are the ones that have gone crazy with prices , that and others stars strategies have hurt the budgets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: it was shelved coz it went way over budget and post pandemic that budget wasnt viable. KJO is a smart guy so he saw it early. Brahamastra has been in making for many many yrs so they cudnt pull the plug or else if that film didnt went into production like takhat that also wud have also been shelved Ashwathama another project was shelved for same reason- many many high budget projects have been shelved due to pandemic Few reports saying KJO hasn't given up on Takht yet & called it his Life's project... With his reputation even if the movie is epic it would tank. Someone like Bhansali might have broken box office with same storyline https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/karan-johar-takht-not-shelved-after-rocky-aur-rani-ki-prem-kahani-7581193/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Few reports saying KJO hasn't given up on Takht yet & called it his Life's project... With his reputation even if the movie is epic it would tank. Someone like Bhansali might have broken box office with same storyline https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/karan-johar-takht-not-shelved-after-rocky-aur-rani-ki-prem-kahani-7581193/ chalti nhin chalti baad ki baad hai no one thinks that they are bad issue with many films were was once pandemic hits films went on hault but the 2 things didnt stop increasing was - interest on loan taken for making a films and salaries of crew.............2 yrs of that just made the budgets go bonkers so many many films were shelved . Yes KJO doesnt want to giveup coz its a damn good script but now is not the time. He ll wait once times are better...........ab achi bane ya nhin wo baad ki baat hai Bhansali also waited for yrs to make bajirao mastani and still waiting to make baijiu bawra Edited August 23, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03 Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: chalti nhin chalti baad ki baad hai no one thinks that they are bad issue with many films were was once pandemic hits films went on hault but the 2 things didnt stop increasing was - interest on loan taken for making a films and salaries of crew.............2 yrs of that just made the budgets go bonkers so many many films were shelved . Yes KJO doesnt want to giveup coz its a damn good script but now is not the time. He ll wait once times are better...........ab achi bane ya nhin wo baad ki baat hai Bhansali also waited for yrs to make bajirao mastani and still waiting to make baijiu bawra Yeah maybe 4-5 years down the line would be the time. Epic movies like this will take time. Maybe few tweaks in the cast with time & who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: Yes films like Housefull and Paagal Panti inspired people to pursue PHDs... Hmm...Answer the point man. Aren't well made masala films fun to watch? And vast majority of the audience is looking for fun in a movie. That is how you make a blockbuster in India. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Hmm...Answer the point man. Aren't well made masala films fun to watch? And vast majority of the audience is looking for fun in a movie. That is how you make a blockbuster in India. The masala films which Priyardarshan made were ACTUALLY Funny; Hera Pheri etc. When was the last times genuinely funny film made that was not full of sexual innuendos? To me personally I do not find 'masala' films enjoyable as these are reinforcing the low iq stereotype of the Indian audience- if you want to compete with the international film market we need to get rid of this obsession with masala films. Even films like Singham and Sooryavanshi are only fit for the 90s era- India and the audience has moved on. Previously the argument was that these masala films were made for the working class section of the population- the class is still there so why now these films are flopping at the box office? Because even these people have access to phones and TVs at home which they can get OTT subscription so why would they pay money to watch this in an expensive theatre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Didnt most of the writers and script directors walked out during or before the pandemic? That’s one big reason. No talent left. And then you have nepotism where actors and actresses who can’t string two hindi sentences in a row are given the films. How will they ever connect to the audience? And the dimwits have the gall to say boycott us. Toh mat dekho? Haaan taimur ki amma. Nahin dekhenge. * marao. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Atlee’s Jawan is making a lot of buzz. The era of multi-starrers will be back in BollyDaWood. They have to unite against the rising competition. Remember the 80s and 90s. Hritik and Salman are also making cameos and who knows at this rate even Aamir might drop in. Now, Bollywood is dubbing all movies in regional languages to cut into the new markets Edited August 23, 2022 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: The masala films which Priyardarshan made were ACTUALLY Funny; Hera Pheri etc. When was the last times genuinely funny film made that was not full of sexual innuendos? To me personally I do not find 'masala' films enjoyable as these are reinforcing the low iq stereotype of the Indian audience- if you want to compete with the international film market we need to get rid of this obsession with masala films. Even films like Singham and Sooryavanshi are only fit for the 90s era- India and the audience has moved on. Previously the argument was that these masala films were made for the working class section of the population- the class is still there so why now these films are flopping at the box office? Because even these people have access to phones and TVs at home which they can get OTT subscription so why would they pay money to watch this in an expensive theatre? Few points Masala films reinforce escapism. Escapism is not really a sign of low iq. Even international audience will enjoy a well made masala film. Look at the reception for RRR. Indian audience has moved on. yes. To a taste that needs a higher finesse for a masala film. They want less OTT and increased subtlety and variety in story. They will thrash a horrible masala film like Aacharya or Shamshera. But they will enjoy something like Pushpa or RRR or KGF. Look at the collections. Even Anurag Kashyap said that he enjoyed Pushpa.. Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Few points Masala films reinforce escapism. Escapism is not really a sign of low iq. Even international audience will enjoy a well made masala film. Look at the reception for RRR. Indian audience has moved on. yes. To a taste that needs a higher finesse for a masala film. They want less OTT and increased subtlety and variety in story. They will thrash a horrible masala film like Aacharya or Shamshera. But they will enjoy something like Pushpa or RRR or KGF. Look at the collections. Even Anurag Kashyap said that he enjoyed Pushpa.. This escapism point has come up many times as a justification... why is it that Indians are the only people with that much stress in their day to day life where they need unrealistic masala films to escape? DO other people in the world not have stress? Their film industries don't focus on this; TBF even in Hollywood there is SMALL market for films like American Pie but these don't define the industry and these are still largely driven by good actors, content, original storyline and great CGI/VFX. The film you mentioned RRR KGF, Pushpa.. and to a large extent Kartikey 2 or Kashmir files.. whats the common link in them? The industry as a whole are redefining cinema by bringing original content, with good VFX and not insulting the Indian culture, country or Hindu Dharma. Saaala kutta Kashyap also said he wishes that RRR goes as the Oscars entry and he hopes the Kashmir Files doesnt... who the hell does he think he is. The public are giving this industry a befitting reply by using their economic boycott powers as opposed to Sir Tan se Judwa gang. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I would force all the bollywood directors to read the cult classic book "The clash of civilizations". The point is that modernization is NOT westernization. There is an assumption in Mumbai film elite that India will be a brown america one day. No way. India will be India. Make movies that are rooted and "connectable" for the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: This escapism point has come up many times as a justification... why is it that Indians are the only people with that much stress in their day to day life where they need unrealistic masala films to escape? DO other people in the world not have stress? Their film industries don't focus on this; TBF even in Hollywood there is SMALL market for films like American Pie but these don't define the industry and these are still largely driven by good actors, content, original storyline and great CGI/VFX. The film you mentioned RRR KGF, Pushpa.. and to a large extent Kartikey 2 or Kashmir files.. whats the common link in them? The industry as a whole are redefining cinema by bringing original content, with good VFX and not insulting the Indian culture, country or Hindu Dharma. Saaala kutta Kashyap also said he wishes that RRR goes as the Oscars entry and he hopes the Kashmir Files doesnt... who the hell does he think he is. The public are giving this industry a befitting reply by using their economic boycott powers as opposed to Sir Tan se Judwa gang. Yeah. Anurag Kashyap is a piece of s**t. No doubt in that. A westernized indian that would eat masala dosa with spoon and fork. I really hope Kashmir files gets the national award for best film and director. Even i have to see why indian people need escapism. Never seen this anywhere. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Atlee’s Jawan is making a lot of buzz. The era of multi-starrers will be back in BollyDaWood. They have to unite against the rising competition. Remember the 80s and 90s. Hritik and Salman are also making cameos and who knows at this rate even Aamir might drop in. Now, Bollywood is dubbing all movies in regional languages to cut into the new markets The taste of tamil audience is much much different than from rest of India. This will be a big test for atlee. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 Not sure how true is this but now even OTT platforms are reluctant to spend money on Bollywood movies. Most are asking to release in theaters first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: it was shelved coz it went way over budget and post pandemic that budget wasnt viable. KJO is a smart guy so he saw it early. Brahamastra has been in making for many many yrs so they cudnt pull the plug or else if that film didnt went into production like takhat that also wud have also been shelved Ashwathama another project was shelved for same reason- many many high budget projects have been shelved due to pandemic Actually ashwatthama isnt shelved it was a rumour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/vicky-kaushal-reveals-the-immortal-ashwatthama-has-not-been-shelved-deets-inside/amp_articleshow/87081194.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 hours ago, vayuu1 said: Actually ashwatthama isnt shelved it was a rumour for time being it was and still it hasnt gotten a green light , studios are not confident that Vicky Kaushal can pull of such a big budget . The only way film will go ahead once the studios are sure that it can get back its money as it will be a very expensive project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 11 hours ago, Number said: Not sure how true is this but now even OTT platforms are reluctant to spend money on Bollywood movies. Most are asking to release in theaters first. true it is, they have learned from their mistakes and now anyways 95% films fail so it saves OTT the money. How ?? Once the film is in theatres and then comes to OTT- its not fresh If its flop then its producer who is on defensive since he needs to cover whatever he can, then OTT are in string position to bargain. Thats why i said if Lal singh chadha wud have been a straight direct OTT release they wud have been in profits and not to forget u save huge huge Marketing and promotion cost. Number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: This ,pehli baar ch*** ne akal ki baat ki hai Stay away from SM Looks like Alia is doing a Kareena and God save Brahmastra Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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