Why are we trying to bring back Trundler Culture in Indian cricket again ?? Our pace bowling revolution started with the pace and bounce of Bumrah and Shami.and the height of Ishant.

[Austin 3:!6]

This is the 2nd consecutive time selectors screwed up team selection. They did the same in last WT20 and now in Asia Cup.

 

How can you go to a tournament like Asia cup with 3 fast bowlers - with 2 of them are rookies like Avesh & Arshdeep?

 

When Avesh got fever, why was Deepak Chahar not drafted in?

 

How come Rahul Dravid and Rohit Sharma approved this team?

 

This Chetan Sharma has to be the worst selector in the history of Indian cricket.

[Sean Bradley]

Chetan Sharma, just like the way he bowled a full toss on the leg stump to Javed Miandad, a hit me ball, He's living up to his reputation of building a 'Hit me' Team. 

[express bowling]

I would like to know what is the qualifucation needed to be a Team India selector ?

 

Is there an interview which tests out the VISION of the person who is about to be a selector ?

 

Is his understanding of the game checked out in an interview ?

 

The current bunch seem to just

a) Pick the big established names

b) Use Stats to pick players.

 

this applies to A-team bowling too.

 

Where is the vision ? Where is the understanding of the game ?

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by express bowling

[vivek04]

We need a foreign coach as simple as that. See the evolution of indian hockey by appointment of foreign coach. Indian coaches tactics still lies in medieval era. Dravid must be sacked if we don't want to witness the demise of indian cricket with this 3rd rate bowling and batting selections.

[Suhaan]

11 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Akram saying emphatically that medium pacers won't work in Australia.

Dravid and Chetan Sharma will say-Medium pacers are golddust

[Suhaan]

11 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Why did they call Kuldeep Sen for?

To observe Boobie bhaiya

[IndianRenegade]

Our spearhead of the pace attack, bowled all 6 balls on the 8th stump line. All 6? So you telecast to the batsman there will be zero risk to your stumps just put bat to ball. Does anyone in the team have any brains?

[Suhaan]

Just now, IndianRenegade said:

Our spearhead of the pace attack, bowled all 6 balls on the 8th stump line. All 6? So you telecast to the batsman there will be zero risk to your stumps just put bat to ball. Does anyone in the team have any brains?

They give too much respect to trundler Bhuvi as if he's some 350+ international wickets veteran,when actually cant bat cant field  other than sucking in bowling

[Adorable Fan]

We can forget the WCT20 later this year. The selections are not going to be changed drastically now. All these medium pacers are going to be killed in OZ. Excluding Bumrah teams can score 50 to 60 runs easily in last 3 overs if we continue with this strategy.

 

More worried is this TM going to push this agenda into the Test team for Medium pacers over pace bowlers which made Test match bowling viewable. Despite 1000 things Kohli did wrong he backed pace bowlers and made Indian Test bowling a force to reckon with.

 

Bright prospects like Tyagi, Moshin no where seen to be near "A" teams also.

 

Watching the PC of Dravid defending the questions on the pace bowling from Pakistan vs India is dangerous sign. The TM thinking itself is so backwards. Surprised he become political now as during his U19 stint Mavi and Nagarkoti absolutely set the stage on fire during U19. To see where Shaheen Afridi has developed compared to Mavi & Nagarkoti currently absolutely saddening. We don't have vision to handle bad develop the pace bowlers at all. Bharat Arun was doing good job, he is also gone now.

 

Pakistan has legacy of successful fast bowlers but still they hired Shuan Tait as pace bowling coach shows thinking and willingness of even incompetent PCB to develop pace bowlers. It was exciting to see all the Pakistan bowlers hitting close to 150K + consistantly even being arch rivals. Key point, even getting hit in the powerplay they were able to come back in death overs like Shah and Rauf last match which turned the tide. T20 is all about fine margins. Not everyday skillfull pace bowlers going to be hit. But with all the riches in the world BCCI have no name person for bowling, Fielding and batting coach. IPL teams have better support team than ICT.

 

It sad we are rolling back to times like days of Prasad, PK, Joginder Sharma days.

 

 

 

 

 

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

They give too much respect to trundler Bhuvi as if he's some 350+ international wickets veteran,when actually cant bat cant field  other than sucking in bowling

 

 

Bhuvi's  " Wickets per match " is low in every format after 9 long years in international cricket.

 

Tests .. 63 wickets from 21 tests ... 3 wickets per match

 

ODIs ... 141 wickets from 121  ODIs .. 1.17 wickets per match

 

T20Is ... 79 wickets from 76 T20Is .. 1.04 wickets per match

 

IPL ... 154 wickets from 146 matches .. 1.05 wickets per match

 

This aspect is not recognised at all by our cricket fraternity. 

Edited September 6, 2022 by express bowling

[Adorable Fan]

29 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Akram saying emphatically that medium pacers won't work in Australia.

Our coach will say our pace bowlers dont need to be sexy 

[kubrickian]

12 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

They give too much respect to trundler Bhuvi as if he's some 350+ international wickets veteran,when actually cant bat cant field  other than sucking in bowling

But to Indian captains and coaches, he is considered a safe option because he bowls military medium, line and length bowling. If anyone bowls fast, he is automatically considered wayward even though he could  be giving away the same runs as Boobie Kumar.

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, Adorable Fan said:

 

 

More worried is this TM going to push this agenda into the Test team for Medium pacers over pace bowlers which made Test match bowling viewable. Despite 1000 things Kohli did wrong he backed pace bowlers and made Indian Test bowling a force to reckon with.

 

Bright prospects like Tyagi, Moshin no where seen to be near "A" teams also.

 

Watching the PC of Dravid defending the questions on the pace bowling from Pakistan vs India is dangerous sign. The TM thinking itself is so backwards.

 

 

Great post !

 

Welcome to this forum !

 

These 2 points above are the biggest worrying aspects.

 

Dravid is picking and defending medium pacers with passion.

 

And the red ball A-team is full of trundlers too.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by express bowling

[Adorable Fan]

8 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Great post !

 

Welcome to this forum !

 

These 2 points above are biggest worrying aspects.

 

Dravid is picking and defending medium pacers with passion.

 

And the red ball A-team is full of trundlers too.

 

 

Thanks. Hopefully the budding pace bowlers don't lose interest on pace and focus on becoming a Trundlers ala Munaf Patel looking the atrocious pace bowling selections currently happening for the senior ICT and the A teams. It would be a disaster, thought we just started the culture and interest in pace bowling last 7 to 8 years with Bumrah, Umesh, Shami, Aaron, Saini etc etc. 

 

Kids would have known only way to get into ICT and earn big bucks in IPL to be tear away quick. But within a year this TM absolutely killed the interest for kids to take up express pace .

[rkt.india]

A bowler's instinct should be to pick wickets. Bowler must look to get the batsmen out. There is just no other way. If you don't look to do that, you shouldn't be playing as a specialist bowler. I don't care whether you are bowling 135 or 145.

Edited September 6, 2022 by rkt.india

[Sgattick10]

57 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Akram saying emphatically that medium pacers won't work in Australia.

I am glad Akram didn't mince his word, said like it is all the Indian commies were silent 

[IndianRenegade]

1 hour ago, Adorable Fan said:

 

 

Watching the PC of Dravid defending the questions on the pace bowling from Pakistan vs India is dangerous sign. The TM thinking itself is so backwards. Surprised he become political now as during his U19 stint Mavi and Nagarkoti absolutely set the stage on fire during U19. To see where Shaheen Afridi has developed compared to Mavi & Nagarkoti currently absolutely saddening. We don't have vision to handle bad develop the pace bowlers at all. Bharat Arun was doing good job, he is also gone now.

 

Pakistan has legacy of successful fast bowlers but still they hired Shuan Tait as pace bowling coach shows thinking and willingness of even incompetent PCB to develop pace bowlers. It was exciting to see all the Pakistan bowlers hitting close to 150K + consistantly even being arch rivals. Key point, even getting hit in the powerplay they were able to come back in death overs like Shah and Rauf last match which turned the tide. T20 is all about fine margins. Not everyday skillfull pace bowlers going to be hit. But with all the riches in the world BCCI have no name person for bowling, Fielding and batting coach. IPL teams have better support team than ICT.

 

 

 

All our coaches except Dravid are no names, not sure what they have achieved or how good they are to coach the national side. looks like there are more in there to be yes man than contribute anything. 

Edited September 6, 2022 by IndianRenegade

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

A bowler's instinct should be to pick wickets. Bowler must look to get the batsmen out. There is just no other way. If you don't look to do that, you shouldn't be playing as a specialist bowler. I don't care whether you are bowling 135 or 145.

 

It was annoying to watch as the most experienced bowler targeting outside the off stump. 

[Jay]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

Akram saying emphatically that medium pacers won't work in Australia.

See my problem is not even pace. Pace at 135-140 is more than enough. 135-145 ideally but yea it's fine.

 

My problem is lack of bounce. Now that is a huge no. 

 

With no bounce this phattu pace even at 150 is useless.

 

Rauf atleast mixes it up with slow balls fast balls, bouncer, wide ball.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

See my problem is not even pace. Pace at 135-140 is more than enough. 135-145 ideally but yea it's fine.

 

My problem is lack of bounce. Now that is a huge no. 

 

With no bounce this phattu pace even at 150 is useless.

 

Rauf atleast mixes it up with slow balls fast balls, bouncer, wide ball.

You think bounce alone at 135 will bother batsmen in t20s now?

Very brutal format this,they should have apt bounce with ability to crank at 140+

Only fours overs are there,they should give it their all

Pace below 135-140 will always keep batsmen in the game, even the lower oder bats fancy their chances(barring India) against such bowlers today

Fast yorkers,hard lengths in middle overs are necessity

Swing and movement is needed most in the opening overs