Jay Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: PP- Bhuvi (3 overs) and rest wud be divided between Axar, hardik, bumrah, arsheep, Ashwin ( a lot will depend on matchups). Axar will give more pp value the jadeja So captain has enough options to rotate in PP Middle overs- Bumrah - hardik, chahal, axar and Arsh/harshal Bhuvi will come in here in between complete his one over wherever they wanna stop runs Death overs- Bumrah- Arshdeep/Harshal and and chahal can be used in death, leg spinners are being used at death now days . Chahal took 14 wkts from 16-20 this yr in IPL Its a very good attack , since every phase is well covered and captain has enough options to play around With so many options captain can use Bumrah like how he wants , use him when pressure is most high ..............going after bumrah in high pressure is quite dangerous This is why stats don't mean everything. This is why conditions matter This is why players cant be judge off ipl This is why players should only be judged on skill pace and bounce or ability to move the ball. Chahal bhoobi who should really only be a 3rd bowler should not play. raki05 and express bowling 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Going forward India has to set the expectations that spinners must be a decent batsman and fielder. Otherwise he has to be a shane warne level bowler. Kumble/Harbhajan could all bat. Even Kuldeep can bat. This weasel Chahal can't bat to save his life. raki05, rollingstoned, AuxiliA and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Jay said: This is why stats don't mean everything. This is why conditions matter This is why players cant be judge off ipl This is why players should only be judged on skill pace and bounce or ability to move the ball. Chahal bhoobi who should really only be a 3rd bowler should not play. Stats are performances Dellusions and hype dont mean much IPL is not the only judge but when international sample is not avl u go to domestic numbers . If you cant perform at domestic level then no one will back at international level pace, bounce, moving ball all wont matter if u cant put it in right slot ...................its all about deception and pace-bounce-moving ball is part of it but so are turning the ball, slower ones, yorkers, varying pace- length are If u have problem with XYZ give better options and prove it how they are better Edited September 14, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
maniac Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 22 hours ago, Adamant said: Sreesanth - the only fast bowler but he got hit all around the park people don’t remember WT20 for 2 reasons either they are too young or they have erased it from their memory. Sreeshanth was very erratic but on his day a bonafide match winner. singhvivek141, raki05, Mosher and 1 other 4 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 22 hours ago, Adamant said: The squad which won the 2007 world cup had Irfan Pathan - medium pacer Rp Singh - another medium pacer, only deluded Indians will call him fast Joginder Sharma - lol Sreesanth - the only fast bowler but he got hit all around the park Irfan Pathan was handy with bat RP Singh was a rhythm bowler, he has clocked 140's as well, but again his primary skill was swing which he got plenty in SA. Sreesanth was the reason for our fight against Australia, got rid of Gilly at the start and later uprooted offstump of Matthew Hayden who was hitting sixes for fun. He also bowled well against SA Played a cameo inns against NZ as well (though we lost that) Jogi was also handy with bat. Except RP, everyone in that team can swing the bat and contribute at the end. We had batting till 10 (not that we needed due as our batting firepower was amazing). raki05 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, maniac said: people don’t remember WT20 for 2 reasons either they are too young or they have erased it from their memory. Sreeshanth was very erratic but on his day a bonafide match winner. True, this round the wicket delivery to Haydos is the criminally underrated. Brute of a wicket. maniac, raki05 and rollingstoned 2 1 Link to comment
Adorable Fan Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Excluding Bumrah.. it's better to watch paint dry than watching the other pretenders like muscles Bhuvi, Harshal, Chahal. If teams are smart enough just need to see off Bumrah overs rest all can be taken to cleaners. express bowling and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Irfan Pathan was handy with bat RP Singh was a rhythm bowler, he has clocked 140's as well, but again his primary skill was swing which he got plenty in SA. Sreesanth was the reason for our fight against Australia, got rid of Gilly at the start and later uprooted offstump of Matthew Hayden who was hitting sixes for fun. He also bowled well against SA Played a cameo inns against NZ as well (though we lost that) Jogi was also handy with bat. Except RP, everyone in that team can swing the bat and contribute at the end. We had batting till 10 (not that we needed due as our batting firepower was amazing). even in final people remember him getting smacked by “better than Sehwag” Nazir but he also bowled a maiden and got Tanvir out to a great delivery who was looking dangerous. Not to forget the iconic catch :) raki05 and singhvivek141 1 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, maniac said: even in final people remember him getting smacked by “better than Sehwag” Nazir but he also bowled a maiden and got Tanvir out to a great delivery who was looking dangerous. Not to forget the iconic catch :) Exactly, Sree was mercurial, but someone who always gave 100% whenever he wore Indian jersey. Had that intensity and zing in his runup which is rare in Indian bowlers. Edited September 14, 2022 by singhvivek141 maniac, Vilander and raki05 3 Link to comment
Adamant Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, maniac said: people don’t remember WT20 for 2 reasons either they are too young or they have erased it from their memory. Sreeshanth was very erratic but on his day a bonafide match winner. On his day Bhuvi is also a match-winner. Doesn't matter if he js as fast as Sreesanth or not. Anyone who takes Sreesanth over Bhuvi in any form of the game is totally clueless. Vilander 1 Link to comment
Strangering Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Best phaast bowlers bowl 10 consecutive balls wide of off stump and say prayers. Link to comment
raki05 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, Adamant said: On his day Bhuvi is also a match-winner. Doesn't matter if he js as fast as Sreesanth or not. Anyone who takes Sreesanth over Bhuvi in any form of the game is totally clueless. Any day sreesanth over this malnourished trundler. Had he been part of 2007 wt20 team. India won ld have lost all the ko. Forget Sreeshanth , he is worst than Joginder who saved 11 in last over, this Malnourished trundler would have given 4-5 wide before one getting slapped over long on. rollingstoned and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Mesky99 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, maniac said: even in final people remember him getting smacked by “better than Sehwag” Nazir but he also bowled a maiden and got Tanvir out to a great delivery who was looking dangerous. Not to forget the iconic catch :) Bowled two dot balls when scores were level against Pak in the first game, had three good games in that tournament. raki05 1 Link to comment
the don Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Liam livingstone had rated naseem shah as the toughest bowler he had faced in his career even before he made his white ball debut. He was always a different level just too raw. Vilander 1 Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Not sure about Lanka but Pak as always is exciting. Link to comment
Jay Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 hours ago, the don said: Liam livingstone had rated naseem shah as the toughest bowler he had faced in his career even before he made his white ball debut. He was always a different level just too raw. Naseem shahe is **** lol. **** test bowler. **** odi bowler. Ok t20 phasst bowler. But even that we shall see shortly in australai. Link to comment
Jay Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Ahahahhaha dome idiot said bhuooobi over sreesanth in loi. Laughable mate. Vilander 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 10:36 PM, Adamant said: Yes, we are a talent bankrupted nation as far as pace bowling is concerned. Shami, Bumrah and Ishant were our 3 best pacers and they were in full glory under the reign of GOAT ASIAN TEST CAPTAIN Kohli. Let's consider the alternatives here to remove any doubt - 1. Prasidh - was getting smacked against minnows, t20 is his least favourable format. 2. Umran - not ready for international stuff as seens vs Ireland, also bowled at 145 instead of 150 in international cricket. 3. Shami - trash in t20is 4. Khaleel - trundler who gets hit for runs all around the park Siraj is the only one who I think should have been selected but even he has not uprooted any trees in t20s. What do we have, lol. Zilch, nada, zero. Bumrah Bhuvi Siraj Pandya This should have been our t20 pace bowling attack Your lack of awareness does not mean there is lack of talent in India. Mosher, raki05, express bowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Adamant Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Sreesanth averages 33 at 6. 1 eco with the ball and was known for getting hit all around the park. As for t20s he avgs 42 at 8.6 eco. Just see those numbers and then see the praises he is getting here. Lol Only in India will a player like him be hailed as a good fast bowler, that guy was mediocre (good on his day). Do these guys even understand cricket? Imagine the hype Naseem and Rauf would get here when chomus like Sreesanth are getting hype. Shows the aukaad of our fast bowling legacy. These guys will even replace Kapil Dev with Sreesanth bcoz he was faster. Dumber than a doorknob. Link to comment
Adamant Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Vilander said: Your lack of awareness does not mean there is lack of talent in India. There is some talent but even they are not ready. I have made a thread about all these IPL sooperstar bowlers who will get exposed at International level and it's bound to happen. Only a small portion of Indian fans can recognize a true fast bowling talent, sadly you are not one of them. Guys like expressPacer, suhaan etc were hyping Avesh, do series mai Aukaat dikh gayi, both of them don't understand how to spot a genuine pacer, same gows with you. They were also hyping up Khaleel, he never was and never will be a successful bowler in international cricket. OTOH I say what I feel, there are only three young fast bowling talents in India apart from Bumrah, Siraj and they are : Top level (according to Indian aukaad) 1. KARTHIK TYAGI Mid level 2. Umran 3. Prasidh Edited September 15, 2022 by Adamant Link to comment
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