vvvslaxman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Piers morgan made ai insulting tweet about Indian woman's team. Indians are not letting go of it lightly. They share a series of videos how England respected "spirit" of the game Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Sehwag is not letting it go on twitter lol Link to comment
nikrulz Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 vvvslaxman, adi B, coffee_rules and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Only 50% of his bowling action was complete. Look where the non striker is. She is already outside the crease. How about waiting until she delivered the ball? Saw the whole footage... Seems like Deepti did slow down or took a pause. It was desperate but within the rules. Don't think English batter was at fault... But moral police should shut the eff up.. We have seen worse spirit of the cricket incidents. Seeing them crying is so satisfying Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Lone Wolf said: Saw the whole footage... Seems like Deepti did slow down or took a pause. It was desperate but within the rules. Don't think English batter was at fault... But moral police should shut the eff up.. We have seen worse spirit of the cricket incidents. Seeing them crying is so satisfying I don't think they showed the whole sequence. just one ball. It seems like she was repeatedly backing up to take the strike since she was with no.11 vivek04 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Of all the people stuart broad is talking about spirit of the game lol Two English guys that have supported so far are PRO DEEPTI 1) 2) 3) coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I don't think they showed the whole sequence. just one ball. It seems like she was repeatedly backing up to take the strike since she was with no.11 Don't think so... Otherwise Indians might have appealed or Harman would have said so in Post match... Like Ashwin did. It was desperate act but within the rules. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Don't think so... Otherwise Indians might have appealed or Harman would have said so in Post match... Like Ashwin did. It was desperate act but within the rules. Without noticing prior act you cannot indulge in such premeditated act. Besides batsman cannot leave the crease until the ball is released. Watch Panesars tweet video where bowler did not release the ball at all. But batsman was able to hold his ground. That is how you back up. Not just meandering outside the crease with assumption. I don't think we support that. Mankading should happen all over and make everyone follow the law. How hard it is to keep the bat inside the crease until the bowler release the ball Edited September 25, 2022 by vvvslaxman Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Without noticing prior act you cannot indulge in such premeditated act. Besides batsman cannot leave the crease until the ball is released. Watch Panesars tweet video where bowler did not release the ball at all. But batsman was able to hold his ground. That is how you back up. Not just meandering outside the crease with assumption. I don't think we support that. Mankading should happen all over and make everyone follow the law. How hard it is to keep the bat inside the crease until the bowler release the ball Not justifying it but seen plenty of incidents when this used to be norm. Here it didn't seem blatant. I'd be pissed if an Indian was on the receiving end. This was marginal unlike Buttler. I remember 2002 Natwest final we were also blatantly stealing those half runs... Even though a pacer was bowling. Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 What do the rules of the game say about running a batsman out by making him fall over on his way to completing a run intentionally or otherwise? I remember an incident in that infamous fixing series with Saf in 00 and Cronje refused to run Jadeja out i think after something like that happened. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Not justifying it but seen plenty of incidents when this used to be norm. Here it didn't seem blatant. I'd be pissed if an Indian was on the receiving end. This was marginal unlike Buttler. I remember 2002 Natwest final we were also blatantly stealing those half runs... Even though a pacer was bowling. High time non striker getting head starts should be penalized.. in my view getting head start is both illegal and not within spirit. Another thing they have to stop calling this "mankading". It is a run out. Lord 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: What do the rules of the game say about running a batsman out by making him fall over on his way to completing a run intentionally or otherwise? I remember an incident in that infamous fixing series with Saf in 00 and Cronje refused to run Jadeja out i think after something like that happened. BD v Afg as well... BD keeper didn't run out the Afghan batter after he fell colliding with BD bowler... It was a shocking incident as a BD player was playing within spirits lol rollingstoned and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 hours ago, cowboysfan said: disagree completely. law has been made very clear for this. Spirit of the game? Also, in this case bowler wasnt even looking at the striker in her delivery stride. Looks like it was preplanned to mankad and get a victory somehow. This gives a bad impression IMO. Remember Sehwag recalled the batsman once after getting mankaded. Harmanpreet should have done the same. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Spirit of the game? Also, in this case bowler wasnt even looking at the striker in her delivery stride. Looks like it was preplanned to mankad and get a victory somehow. This gives a bad impression IMO. Remember Sehwag recalled the batsman once after getting mankaded. Harmanpreet should have done the same. Why is it mandatory to look at the striker? They appealed and the umpire deemed it out after considering it all. Case closed. Link to comment
Lord Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Don't think so... Otherwise Indians might have appealed or Harman would have said so in Post match... Like Ashwin did. It was desperate act but within the rules. coffee_rules, Lone Wolf and AuxiliA 3 Link to comment
sage Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Sorry not a fan of this. Mankad is only justified in extreme cases of backing up. English batter was behaving normally, not even a warning given. Just sounds sneaky. If anyone tried this in a match I was playing we'd give them a hard time Link to comment
Lord Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 hours ago, AuxiliA said: Personally not a big fan of Mankading. Not because of the 'spirit of cricket' bullsh*t, but because it is so anti-climactic and diverts attention from the actual cricket. Non-strikers should be warned once and if they don't fall in place only then they should be Mankaded. as do many other modes of dismissal vvvslaxman 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, sage said: Sorry not a fan of this. Mankad is only justified in extreme cases of backing up. English batter was behaving normally, not even a warning given. Just sounds sneaky. If anyone tried this in a match I was playing we'd give them a hard time Why is it only justified then? So batsmen can wander in 'non extreme;' cases? Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, sage said: Sorry not a fan of this. Mankad is only justified in extreme cases of backing up. English batter was behaving normally, not even a warning given. Just sounds sneaky. If anyone tried this in a match I was playing we'd give them a hard time 29 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Spirit of the game? Also, in this case bowler wasnt even looking at the striker in her delivery stride. Looks like it was preplanned to mankad and get a victory somehow. This gives a bad impression IMO. Remember Sehwag recalled the batsman once after getting mankaded. Harmanpreet should have done the same. Icc recently came out clarifying it is the responsibility of the nonstriker to ensure they stay in the crease until the ball is released. They said there is nothing unfair about mankand: Quote LAW 38 As well as a number of more minor changes, there is one significant addition to this Law. The old Law 41.16 (non-striker leaving his/her ground early) has been moved to Law 38.. This clause remains one of the most controversial clauses in the Laws of Cricket, despite MCC having changed the emphasis of this Law, so that responsibility is put on the non-striker to stay in his/her ground until the ball is released. This latest change goes a little further, removing this Law from ‘unfair play’ and moving it to Run out. After all, this is simply a run out, and there is nothing unfair about it.https://lords-stg.azureedge.net/mediafiles/lords/media/documents/full-explanation_changes-to-the-laws-of-cricket-in-2022_v2_2.pdf Edited September 25, 2022 by IndianRenegade Link to comment
G_B_ Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I am glad the ladies did this Too many times we have lost key games to choking. Have a do what it takes (legally) mentality to win. Adorable Fan, coffee_rules and vvvslaxman 1 1 1 Link to comment
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