Clutch performance watch

[tapandrun]

2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Either Gill should be replaced by Samson as opener, or he needs to be replaced by Jaiswal and have Jitesh as wk lower down the order. Pick either option but Gill doesn't deserve to be in T20s just like SKY.

 

Its not about Gill or jiswal where most of the conversation usually heading to. Its the combination of team. None of the wking option available to Ind are capable of making into playing 11 in the side so to maximize them or to reduce their -ive impact on the game they need to open and asked to maximize pp take risks if they need to.

 

Having sanju in mo is like adding another unsure walking wkt have explained his methods and shortcoming in his style of play in some other thread.

 

Look at other teams, salt play for eng as opener is not because he is best batter/opener they got, ricklton plays for SA as opener not because he is top batter available to them, its all about maximizing the batting ability of a player who is not primarily top batter but you need them for wk job and is that role is indispensible.

 

Argument of S.iyer over Sky is made on Iyer's IPL performance,  ppl often forget that sky had a v.good ipl too. IPL performance should not count much for Ind capped players.

It should be counted for uncapped or fringe players.

 

The issue with sky even when he was in prime was his inability to show-up in icc events. he does not perform there at all. Also posted his stats in some other thread they are poor.its a call tm has to take. Is there a right call on him ???-- No. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, tapandrun said:

 

Its not about Gill or jiswal where most of the conversation usually heading to. Its the combination of team. None of the wking option available to Ind are capable of making into playing 11 in the side so to maximize them or to reduce their -ive impact on the game they need to open and asked to maximize pp take risks if they need to.

 

Having sanju in mo is like adding another unsure walking wkt have explained his methods and shortcoming in his style of play in some other thread.

 

Look at other teams, salt play for eng as opener is not because he is best batter/opener they got, ricklton plays for SA as opener not because he is top batter available to them, its all about maximizing the batting ability of a player who is not primarily top batter but you need them for wk job and is that role is indispensible.

 

Argument of S.iyer over Sky is made on Iyer's IPL performance,  ppl often forget that sky had a v.good ipl too. IPL performance should not count much for Ind capped players.

It should be counted for uncapped or fringe players.

 

The issue with sky even when he was in prime was his inability to show-up in icc events. he does not perform there at all. Also posted his stats in some other thread they are poor.its a call tm has to take. Is there a right call on him ???-- No. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed about team composition and that's why Samson only fits as opener else better to go with Jitesh.

 

Regarding Iyer, it's not just about IPL performances. Iyer has shown he has a much more rounded game. He doesn't rely on across the line slogs, sweeps and flicks for his runs. He can play straight. And he can also handle pressure the way he did in 2025 CT where he made major contributions every match. Iyer has captaincy credentials and is a proven middle order player. SKY has shown nothing other than minnow bashing at the highest level.

[tapandrun]

13 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Agreed about team composition and that's why Samson only fits as opener else better to go with Jitesh.

 

Regarding Iyer, it's not just about IPL performances. Iyer has shown he has a much more rounded game. He doesn't rely on across the line slogs, sweeps and flicks for his runs. He can play straight. And he can also handle pressure the way he did in 2025 CT where he made major contributions every match. Iyer has captaincy credentials and is a proven middle order player. SKY has shown nothing other than minnow bashing at the highest level.

 

If S.iyer plays T20s then he will also req. to play across the line shots, its the demand and nature of the game. All these observation on Iyer is based on Odi cricket where a batter can pick and chose the bowler or overs they would attack, but in t20is its nt that simple.

 

At current form anything is better than sky, plus his inability to score runs in icc events does not give much confidence in him.

 

Do nt take these IPL performances for Ind capped/star players that seriously they all have found a way or play such a way that they ensure a good season , they all mould their teams in that way.-- KL , Kolhi, Sky, Rohit (few seasons back), now gill all have found a way to have huge IPL seasons 

 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2025 by tapandrun

[Ultimate_Game]

10 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

If S.iyer plays T20s then he will also req. to play across the line shots, its the demand and nature of the game. All these observation on Iyer is based on Odi cricket where a batter can pick and chose the bowler or overs they would attack, but in t20is its nt that simple.

 

At current form anything is better than sky, plus his inability to score runs in icc events does not give much confidence in him.

 

Do nt take these IPL performances for Ind capped/star players that seriously they all have found a way or play such a way that they ensure a good season , they all mould their teams in that way.-- KL , Kolhi, Sky, Rohit (few seasons back), now gill all have found a way to have huge IPL seasons 

 

 

 

 

Also based on Iyer's performances in IPL. Iyer doesn't rely on across the line slogs. He plays straight and has a very well rounded game. SKY is way too limited and struggles to score in front of the wkt. Iyer is a huge upgrade over SKY and has proven his captaincy credentials as well.

[vvvslaxman]

Shubman GIll 

 

WTC finals   28, 8, 13, 18

 

Asia cup final 27 not out (chasing 51)

 

 

World cup final 2023   4

 

CT final 2025  31

 

Asia cup final  12

 

 

 

[Gollum]

Shreyas has 75% success rate in ICC KOs, including an ATG 100 in 23 WC SF against our nemesis NZ....even if he fails in next 5 KOs, his resume will still be impressive because guys like Gilly, Hayden, Ponting hardly had 30% success rate in KOs. Even in group games of that WC and this year's CT, he showed his clutchness many times. By far India's MVP in ODI format.

 

Even in tests, he has that Mirpur knock to show. And he resuced us many times in the home test series against NZ in 21, from precarious situations. 

 

Some people just have that mettle in them, and Iyer is one of them. Even under pressure, keeps it uncomplicated, ready to absorb pressure and look ugly only to cash in later. Even if he doesn't have the ability in T20Is of say a SKY, I will take an Iyer over SKY every time in a big game, in any format. 

 

And don't underestimate his IPL showings, there is a reason he was the only big buy (above 20 cr) who had a great IPL, rest withered under the pressure/burden of their auction prices. Shreyas thrived under the spotlight. Taking 3 franchises to the final (including his title win with KKR) can't be brushed under the carpet, especially since two of those franchises, Kings XI and Delhi are absolute basketcases. 

[Gollum]

Shreyas instead of Shankar/DK in 2019 WC would have been a game changer. He would have handled that top order collapse in SF far better than DK, some players have this unique ability of surviving tough conditions even if they are made to look ugly. Steve Waugh was one such guy, elite survivor.....despite being a mediocre ODI batsman, he won Aussies the 1999 WC. 

 

T20 WC later stages will be played on tired surfaces, more double-paced and more conducive to spin bowling, cutters, pace off etc. There is a reason historically most KOs of T20 WCs have seen scores in the 140-180 range. 

Edited September 29, 2025 by Gollum

[rkt.india]

On 9/29/2025 at 8:13 AM, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Agreed about team composition and that's why Samson only fits as opener else better to go with Jitesh.

 

Regarding Iyer, it's not just about IPL performances. Iyer has shown he has a much more rounded game. He doesn't rely on across the line slogs, sweeps and flicks for his runs. He can play straight. And he can also handle pressure the way he did in 2025 CT where he made major contributions every match. Iyer has captaincy credentials and is a proven middle order player. SKY has shown nothing other than minnow bashing at the highest level.

What has Iyer done in T20 at the highest level?

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

What has Iyer done in T20 at the highest level?

 

How many chances has he been given? In ODIs he was our best middle order batter in 2023 WC, in 2025 CT he was the most consistent middle order batter and played high pressure innings. In IPL he has taken 3 poor franchises - DC, KKR and PBKS to IPL finals in 3 consecutive years while winning one title. This shows Iyer is the player to be backed. If someone like SKY and Gill can be backed in T20s without doing much under pressure, surely someone like Iyer who has shown he can handle pressure and is a good captain/leader to boot, deserves a go.

[putrevus]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

What has Iyer done in T20 at the highest level?

Spot on, I don't think Iyer needs to be in the t20 team. 

Edited September 30, 2025 by putrevus

[putrevus]

Iyer in odis he is on his best day a complimentary player also. Should he have played 2019 world cup over guys like DK then answer is yes.But I highly doubt he would have done anything there with his loose technique.

 

At number 4  you should be finishing the games ,In CT  which was his best tournament he left things to others by throwing his wicket away in many matches.

Edited September 30, 2025 by putrevus

[Nikhil_cric]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

What has Iyer done in T20 at the highest level?

For that matter, Gill hasn't done much either. 

 

Apart from that 126 * against Ben Lister and Blair Tickner on his home IPL ground of Ahmedabad, he has hardly done anything in international T20's

[vvvslaxman]

This new kaur girl first wc match.  Clutch knock

[vvvslaxman]

11 hours ago, rkt.india said:

What has Iyer done in T20 at the highest level?

Iyer was not this good in any IPL season. Mental toughness is mental.toughness doesn't matter what formt it is

[vvvslaxman]

Iyer is the only indian MO batsmen to score 500 plus in a world cup

 

[vvvslaxman]

1) Deepti

2) Shafali

3) Sree sharani

4) Renuka

..

many players

 

10) Washington sundar 

 

:)

[Lord]

3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

1) Deepti

2) Shafali

3) Sree sharani

4) Renuka

..

many players

 

10) Washington sundar 

 

:)

performance in semis is clutch too. Would include Harman as shes done it in knockouts many times

[crictime]

Shafali Varma and Deepti Sharma. Finals is the ocassion to give a clutch performance.