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Hardik Pandya's batting in T20I tournaments

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12 minutes ago, putrevus said:

The problem with the team India , it is filled with passengers starting from KL Rahul. So Pandya comes across as a some sort of player.Reality is even after 6 years Pandya is still crappy with his SR and there is nothing great about him. 

 

That is reflection of the talent level of the team and its bench strength.


More than that, it's the result of myopic planning, we believe in process of "don't change if it ain't broken".
Instead of experimenting, we just go into shell with whatever is decent available and try to not change it (unless we're forced to do). We're scared of changes and we try to resist that to stick in our comfort zone.

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6 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:


More than that, it's the result of myopic planning, we believe in process of "don't change if it ain't broken".
Instead of experimenting, we just go into shell with whatever is decent available and try to not change it (unless we're forced to do). We're scared of changes and we try to resist that to stick in our comfort zone.

I don't think so, which great talent has been leftout.

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4 hours ago, Norman said:

Don't care about all these stats.

 

He's the least of our many concerns now. In fact, one of the most important members of our white ball teams and walks into the side in any conditions. Move on. 

 

 

 

No question about that. His bowling is more useful. But his limitations in his batting makes him unreliable. With DK finishing his career faster than matches for India, we have nobody to finish games. SKY cannot do both middle order acceleration and finishing on his own. 

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Hardik Pandya is bits and pieces and I mean that in a good way. Kind of like Afridi who was never a bowler or a batsman but it was the sum of all parts.
 

You can’t look at his utility in isolation.

 

If you add his fielding (which has deteriorated) in his prime, you get a very good impact player must for LOIs.

 

Players like that are supposed to play around other specialists and get the right momentum or impact with bat or ball. 
 

If you consider Pandya a specialist bowler or bat you will be disappointed. He is a utility cricketer in t20s. In ODIs he has a case for being a batting allrounder though. He is good for what he is. Can be excellent on his day and we as fans want more consistency but no denying he is the most important cog in the T20 side.

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4 minutes ago, maniac said:

Hardik Pandya is bits and pieces and I mean that in a good way. Kind of like Afridi who was never a bowler or a batsman but it was the sum of all parts.
 

You can’t look at his utility in isolation.

 

If you add his fielding (which has deteriorated) in his prime, you get a very good impact player must for LOIs.

 

Players like that are supposed to play around other specialists and get the right momentum or impact with bat or ball. 
 

If you consider Pandya a specialist bowler or bat you will be disappointed. He is a utility cricketer in t20s. In ODIs he has a case for being a batting allrounder though. He is good for what he is. Can be excellent on his day and we as fans want more consistency but no denying he is the most important cog in the T20 side.

Afridi would walk into any Pakistani whiteball team as a bowler.He was player of the tournment in 2007 and Mom in both semifinals and finals in 2009. Pandya is not even half the player Afridi was, but Pandya still is needed for this Indian team.

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1 hour ago, maniac said:


bhai you could have put your ego aside and acknowledge you agree with what I said :laugh:, I am saying the same thing.

I don't have any ego. My point was you comparing him with Afridi who is a legitmate ATG great in white ball cricket.Afridi would have been an asset to any team he plays in t20 cricket.Pandya as a player is several notches below Afridi.

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Just now, putrevus said:

I don't have any ego. My point was you comparing him with Afridi who is a legitmate ATG great in white ball cricket.Afridi would have been an asset to any team he plays in t20 cricket.Pandya as a player is several notches below Afridi.


based on current cricketing standards Pandya too will walk into a lot of current international teams. As I said doesn’t make him a legend but he definitely is a marquee name in T20 right now.

 

Since we are discussing Pak, In fact he would walk any-day twice on a Sunday into a team like Pakistan which used to produce similar type of mercurial but bits and pieces cricketers.

 

Not everyone is hyping him like Zen and a few others but one must be blind to not see the utility he has. (Not you). 
 

yes I do have a problem with him getting a shot when he is handicapped in one of his skills. Since we are relatively a weaker bowling side Pandya the bowler who is out of form with bat adds a lot more value and he is a shoo in but Pandya the batsman minus the bowling has no place on the side because I personally believe there are other options. Better or not is a different debate.

 

I am not arguing with you but that’s my opinion of him.

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Pandya is our only pace bowling AR.  And he is a must in SENA.   But he is definitely overhyped by few ICFers as well as on SM.  Everyone saw his mediocre performance in Asia Cup after the 1st game vs poyz.    These are his scores in this tournament while batting at no 5 and having plenty of time to construct his inning.    40(37), 2(3), 5(6) 

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Another consolidator masquerading as hitter

 

Records type batting analysis [change type]
View innings by innings list [change view]
Tournament type 5+ team tournaments http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif
Batting position greater than or equal to 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif
Ordered by start date (ascending)

 

Career averages
  Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
unfiltered 2016-2022 77 57 15 1036 71* 24.66 712 145.50 0 2 3 72 56 Profile
filtered 2016-2022 21 13 1 180 40 15.00 148 121.62 0 0 2 14 6  
Innings by innings list
Runs Mins BF 4s 6s SR Pos Dismissal Inns   Opposition Ground Start Date  
31 25 18 4 1 172.22 6 caught 1   v Bangladesh Mirpur 24 Feb 2016 T20I # 509
0 1 2 0 0 0.00 6 caught 2   v Pakistan Mirpur 27 Feb 2016 T20I # 512
2 3 4 0 0 50.00 6 bowled 2   v Sri Lanka Mirpur 1 Mar 2016 T20I # 515
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v U.A.E. Mirpur 3 Mar 2016 T20I # 517
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v Bangladesh Mirpur 6 Mar 2016 T20I # 521
1 - 7 0 0 14.28 7 lbw 2   v New Zealand Nagpur 15 Mar 2016 T20I # 535
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v Pakistan Eden Gardens 19 Mar 2016 T20I # 541
15 9 7 2 1 214.28 5 caught 1   v Bangladesh Bengaluru 23 Mar 2016 T20I # 547
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v Australia Mohali 27 Mar 2016 T20I # 553
DNB - - - - - - - 1   v West Indies Wankhede 31 Mar 2016 T20I # 556
11 10 8 2 0 137.50 7 caught 1   v Pakistan Dubai (DSC) 24 Oct 2021 T20I # 1361
23 39 24 1 0 95.83 6 caught 1   v New Zealand Dubai (DSC) 31 Oct 2021 T20I # 1381
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v Scotland Dubai (DSC) 5 Nov 2021 T20I # 1396
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v Namibia Dubai (DSC) 8 Nov 2021 T20I # 1410
33* 41 17 4 1 194.11 6 not out 2   v Pakistan Dubai (DSC) 28 Aug 2022 T20I # 1750
0 5 2 0 0 0.00 6 caught 1   v Pakistan Dubai (DSC) 4 Sep 2022 T20I # 1758
17 25 13 0 1 130.76 5 caught 1   v Sri Lanka Dubai (DSC) 6 Sep 2022 T20I # 1759
40 61 37 1 2 108.10 6 caught 2   v Pakistan Melbourne 23 Oct 2022 T20I # 1842
DNB - - - - - - - 1   v Netherlands Sydney 27 Oct 2022 T20I # 1848
2 6 3 0 0 66.66 6 caught 1   v South Africa Perth 30 Oct 2022 T20I # 1853
5 - 6 0 0 83.33 5 caught 1   v Bangladesh Adelaide 2 Nov 2022 T20I # 1860

 

 

Wait with avg of 15, he can't be considered as consolidator either.

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9 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Pandya is our only pace bowling AR.  And he is a must in SENA.   But he is definitely overhyped by few ICFers as well as on SM.  Everyone saw his mediocre performance in Asia Cup after the 1st game vs poyz.    These are his scores in this tournament while batting at no 5 and having plenty of time to construct his inning.    40(37), 2(3), 5(6) 

 

 

Is he? With his performance, he is turning out to just a 5th bowler and nothing more than that.

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1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

 

 

Is he? With his performance, he is turning out to just a 5th bowler and nothing more than that.

Only S Thakur and D Chahar could be the possible replacements as an AR.    D chahar is injury prone.   We seriously lack a decent/consistent pace bowling AR.  

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The issue with Pandya is in recent times he is trying to pretend as a specialist bat and not a slogger which he is at the core. As a result he is in two minds regarding his shots (trying to not look ugly) and also regarding the pace at which he scores. He is trying to act like a specialist bat, he needs to understand he is a just a slogger. Few innings in IPL don't make you a proper bat.

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2 hours ago, Pollack said:

The issue with Pandya is in recent times he is trying to pretend as a specialist bat and not a slogger which he is at the core. As a result he is in two minds regarding his shots (trying to not look ugly) and also regarding the pace at which he scores. He is trying to act like a specialist bat, he needs to understand he is a just a slogger. Few innings in IPL don't make you a proper bat.

Spot on, he does not have the game to be specialist bat neither can he bowl to be specialist bowler. number 5 is one spot higher for him. Get Pant in to open and put Rahul at number 5. It will solve lot of problems.

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1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Afridi is legimitate ATG in whiteball cricket. Pandya is a fraud who is nether batsman nor bowler.He is definition of bits and pieces player who even after 6 years is yet to play a defining knock with bat.

 

Maybe ATG in his district. He is no way near being an ATG in ODI cricket. He may have been if his batting and bowling averages were reversed.

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