Clarke Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 BTW 2013 CT winning team was very communal with no minority representation Gollum and Vijy 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Clarke said: BTW 2013 CT winning team was very communal with no minority representation But sarkar was secular!!!! Vijy, Norman, Lone Wolf and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gollum said: But sarkar was secular!!!! A Sikh, an Italian, and a Janeu-dhaari Paarsi in one frame. Miss those days. Edited November 12, 2022 by Chakdephatte Lord, Vijy and Clarke 2 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, jalebi_bhai said: 1983, 2007 and 2011. There were at least 2 Punjabis in each of these instances. This time, we only had Kohli. Are Punjabis the good luck charms of the Indian team? Kindly discuss. Not just good luck charm, they are jigar wale fighters who take the attack to the opposition. Gambho, Yuvi and Bhajji were jazba junooni players. Even baby Kohli played a nice helping hand under the guidance of the fiesty Gambhir in his first ever WC final. The way a pissed off Yuvi massacred Barbie Broad is the stuff of legends. Kapil Dev was pissed off with his team mates and caned the hapless Zimbabweans in anger all day. Balwinder Sandhu bowled a magical ball to take out Greenidge. Madan Lal demanded one more over and took the crucial wicket of Richards despite getting hammered by him. You need such heroic performances to stir up the players and make them believe that destiny is on their side for winning the tournament. Edited November 12, 2022 by nevada Lone Wolf and Vijy 2 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, nevada said: Not just good luck charm, they are jigar wale fighters who take the attack to the opposition. Gambho, Yuvi and Bhajji were jazba junooni players. Even baby Kohli played a nice helping hand under the guidance of the fiesty Gambhir in his first ever WC final. The way a pissed off Yuvi massacred Barbie Broad is the stuff of legends. Kapil Dev was pissed off with his team mates and caned the hapless Zimbabweans in anger all day. Balwinder Sandhu bowled a magical ball to take out Greenidge. Madan Lal demanded one more over and took the crucial wicket of Richards despite getting hammered by him. You need such heroic performances to stir up the players and make them believe that destiny is on their side for winning the tournament. In short phainta lagane wale players SreeSanth a South Indian played with Jazba Junoon as well. cricketfan28 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 49 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: A Sikh, an Italian, and a Janeu-dhaari Paarsi in one frame. Miss those days. Was Indira Gandhi's husband really Parsi? Did Rahul ever attend any prayers at a Parsi temple? He has played the role of devout Hindu time to time but haven't seen him publicly worship elsewhere. Link to comment
RajBan Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Diler, Josh, junoon and jazba. Where do we hear that a lot. Oh, I remember, Padosis are also very vocal about it. This thread should have been opened in PP. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 There's probably 1000 such threads already there, don't worry they'll open a 100 more after Sunday. Link to comment
nevada Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, RajBan said: Diler, Josh, junoon and jazba. Where do we hear that a lot. Oh, I remember, Padosis are also very vocal about it. This thread should have been opened in PP. Such chatter seems over the top but there is more than a grain of truth to it. Our best bowler in the tournament is a rookie Punjabi. We were saved from embarrassment against Paxtan by a washed up Punjabi batsman. Link to comment
nevada Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 18 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said: Arre hum already Rathore ko batting coach banaakle rakha hai? Iska kuch phal kyo nahi mila ? Woh kamzor insaan mushkil se mid-on paar karata tha ball ko. Woh kya coaching karega Link to comment
RajBan Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, nevada said: Such chatter seems over the top but there is more than a grain of truth to it. Our best bowler in the tournament is a rookie Punjabi. We were saved from embarrassment against Paxtan by a washed up Punjabi batsman. Against a team of predominantly Punjabi players. So that kind of evens it out ..no? It won't leave good taste if rest of India start taking Santa Banta jokes literally. Punjabis who are talented and industrious will make a name for them on merit and don't need these manohar kathayein or quota system. So let's cut these generalizations and treat each individual based on what he is worth. Our very fundamental problem has been that our decisions on cricket team have been driven on perceptions by a strong nexus who has self interest to protect rather than on facts, data, performance and context. Link to comment
jalebi_bhai Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Guys, I have made appropriate amendments to my hypothesis in the OP. Crux of the argument remains the same. Link to comment
jalebi_bhai Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, RajBan said: Against a team of predominantly Punjabi players. So that kind of evens it out ..no? It won't leave good taste if rest of India start taking Santa Banta jokes literally. Punjabis who are talented and industrious will make a name for them on merit and don't need these manohar kathayein or quota system. So let's cut these generalizations and treat each individual based on what he is worth. Our very fundamental problem has been that our decisions on cricket team have been driven on perceptions by a strong nexus who has self interest to protect rather than on facts, data, performance and context. No one is asking for a quota system. This thread is more of an acknowledgement of the fact that some of our most clutch cricketers have some Punjabi connection. Even in this WC, Kohli and Arshdeep were two of our best performers. The thread was made in a light-hearted vein, not meant to be prescriptive in any which way. nevada and Lord 2 Link to comment
RajBan Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, jalebi_bhai said: No one is asking for a quota system. This thread is more of an acknowledgement of the fact that some of our most clutch cricketers have some Punjabi connection. Even in this WC, Kohli and Arshdeep were two of our best performers. The thread was made in a light-hearted vein, not meant to be prescriptive in any which way. I know, we all are guilty of making those comments every now and then to vent out our inner spirit. Problem is when few individuals start believing the fun itself. Link to comment
nevada Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 16 hours ago, rkt.india said: Agarkar is Muslim? He married Fatima, a Muslim lady. It is likely he converted to Islam for the marriage. Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 hours ago, nevada said: He married Fatima, a Muslim lady. It is likely he converted to Islam for the marriage. what is his name now? Mohd Aga khan? Link to comment
nevada Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, Vijy said: what is his name now? Mohd Aga khan? Aziz Aghakar Vijy and Lone Wolf 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 hours ago, nevada said: He married Fatima, a Muslim lady. It is likely he converted to Islam for the marriage. wow @Mariyam is upto date with details lol I didn't even know th is Lord and Vijy 1 1 Link to comment
Mesky99 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 5:55 PM, vice said: raina is from JK. Rauf born in punjab and speaks fluent punjabi, can't speak pashto but has roots in SWAT since wc over and time for trolling.. here's some good players of punjabi origin from reddit Some noteable punjabis in cricket: Kapil Dev (played for Haryana but parents are both from Punjab) Gambhir Kohli Dhawan( dad has roots inPunjab and Dhawan tries to act Punjabi, maybe get 1/2 a point) Bumrah ( born in Gujarat but roots in Punjab) Navjot Sidhu Harbhajan Yuvraj Mohinder Amarnath Bedi (played for Delhi but roots in Punjab) Gill (upcoming prospect) That's not a bad list considering a few ATG in that list Notable mentions : BS Sandhu, Yashpal Sharma, Madan Lal, Lala Amarnath. 1983 WC Finals Team had 5 players in the Final of Punjabi roots: Kapil, Mohinder Amarnath, Yashpal Sharma, Madan Lal, Sandhu 2007 T20 WC had 3 Punjabi ethnic players in Gambhir, Yuvi, Harbhajan 2011 WC team had 4 players of Punjabi background in Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvi, Harbhajan Isn't ishant Punjabi as well? Chawla another Punjabi was in both 07 and 11 squads, saini to is Punjabi. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Punjabi bowlers Chahal and Arshdeep bowling like demons . Link to comment
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