ICC Trophies all time count

[the don]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

1. Pakistan would  have won nothing in 90s. Where did you get the delusion from, watching your PTV. Pakistan were fricking extremely lucky to win 1992 world cup. They are fluckiest world cup winners in the history of world cups.

WI did not win any world cup in 1980s. But I agree they would have won lot of world t20s .

What about that team from the 92 to 99 period.

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, the don said:

What about that team from the 92 to 99 period.

What was so great about team from 92 to 99. It was good for Pakistan standard but nothing special. So don't be under some delusion that Pakistan ever had a great team.

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, the don said:

What about that team from the 92 to 99 period.

92 WC they won. 99 WC aus was too strong - peak ODI career warne. and 96 WC - SL was too strong, batted deep and had multiple bowling options

[deepdynamo]

In my opinion, there is no need to discredit CT or WTC from the list simple because its exists in ICC official website.

The thread is about official ICC trophies so CT or WTC must be counted in it.

Also CT came in existence in 1998 and T20WC in 2007. So, there is no merit in the though process that WI would have won multiple T20 WC in the 80's or AUS would have multiple WTC in 2000-2010 era.
The trophies were not existed then but those team were rewarded for their dominance in some other way ( like Test Rankings)

[Majestic]

5 hours ago, putrevus said:

What was so great about team from 92 to 99. It was good for Pakistan standard but nothing special. So don't be under some delusion that Pakistan ever had a great team.

Bowling attack of Wasim, Waqar and Saqlain and then in '99, add Shoaib too.

 

They underperformed because Waqar was not doing good I think in 1999 and Inzy was a flop in his so called peak years. Anwar was inconsistent and can't recall what Razzaq did. Damn they had quite a few batsman but they underachieved massively.

[SRT100]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

Bowling attack of Wasim, Waqar and Saqlain and then in '99, add Shoaib too.

 

They underperformed because Waqar was not doing good I think in 1999 and Inzy was a flop in his so called peak years. Anwar was inconsistent and can't recall what Razzaq did. Damn they had quite a few batsman but they underachieved massively.

 

Probably underachieved because they were match fixing.

 

This was right at the height of all the gambling scandals.

[putrevus]

5 hours ago, Majestic said:

Bowling attack of Wasim, Waqar and Saqlain and then in '99, add Shoaib too.

 

They underperformed because Waqar was not doing good I think in 1999 and Inzy was a flop in his so called peak years. Anwar was inconsistent and can't recall what Razzaq did. Damn they had quite a few batsman but they underachieved massively.

They never even good batsmen much like India team of last few years.India atleast had Kohli .If India in last five years had any batting they would have won lot of overseas series and ICC cups. You need batsmen also to be a strong team.Pakistan catching and fielding was atrocious. Were they better than India in 90s answer would be yes but that is not great.

 

Kohli's Indian team would whitewash them both home and away.

[the don]

Its all very hypothetical but i always felt Pakistan of the 90s was suited to t20 cricket. With Wasim akram and Akhtar yorkers. Saqlain was unhittable at the time and batsmen like Anwar, Ijaz who played unorthodox shots.

 

[vvvslaxman]

T20 may be lottery. But One day ICC trophy can be achieved through careful planning from now.  India used 7 or 8 openers right before world T20. We thought India would be a flexible unit under Rohit. But they once again circled back to their old tried, tested and failed batting order.

[deepdynamo]

ICC Trophies Count after AUS triumph in WTC 2023.

 

1) Australia 9
5 ODI WC ( 1987, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2015)

2 CT (2006, 2009)

1 T20 WC (2021)

1 ICC Test Championship (2023)

 

2) West indies 5
2 ODI WC (1975, 1979)

1 CT (2004)

2 T20 WC (2012, 2016)

 

3) India 5
2 ODI WC (1983, 2011)

2 CT (2002, 2013)

1 T20 WC (2007)

 

4) Pakistan 3
1 ODI WC (1992)

1 CT (2017)

1 T20 WC (2009)

 

5) Srilanka 3
1 ODI WC (1996)

1 CT (2002)

1 T20 WC (2014)

6) England 3

1 ODI WC (2019)

2 T20 WC (2010, 2022)

 

7) New Zealand 2

1 ICC Test Championship (2021)

1 CT (2000)

8) South Africa 1
1 CT (1998)

[deepdynamo]

Last 5 ICC Trophies dominated by SENA countries ( except South Africa )

Australia 2
England 2
Newzealand 1

[Vijy]

13 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

ICC Trophies Count after AUS triumph in WTC 2023.

 

1) Australia 9
5 ODI WC ( 1987, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2015)

2 CT (2006, 2009)

1 T20 WC (2021)

1 ICC Test Championship (2023)

 

2) West indies 5
2 ODI WC (1975, 1979)

1 CT (2004)

2 T20 WC (2012, 2016)

 

3) India 5
2 ODI WC (1983, 2011)

2 CT (2002, 2013)

1 T20 WC (2007)

 

4) Pakistan 3
1 ODI WC (1992)

1 CT (2017)

1 T20 WC (2009)

 

5) Srilanka 3
1 ODI WC (1996)

1 CT (2002)

1 T20 WC (2014)

6) England 3

1 ODI WC (2019)

2 T20 WC (2010, 2022)

 

7) New Zealand 2

1 ICC Test Championship (2021)

1 CT (2000)

8) South Africa 1
1 CT (1998)

Aus is so far ahead of the rest. Bang's lack of titles despite their population and enthusiasm is quite cringey

[deepdynamo]

ICC Trophies Count after AUS triumph in ODI WC 2023.

 

1) Australia 10
6 ODI WC ( 1987, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2015)

2 CT (2006, 2009)

1 T20 WC (2021)

1 ICC Test Championship (2023)

 

2) West indies 5
2 ODI WC (1975, 1979)

1 CT (2004)

2 T20 WC (2012, 2016)

 

3) India 5
2 ODI WC (1983, 2011)

2 CT (2002, 2013)

1 T20 WC (2007)

 

4) Pakistan 3
1 ODI WC (1992)

1 CT (2017)

1 T20 WC (2009)

 

5) Srilanka 3
1 ODI WC (1996)

1 CT (2002)

1 T20 WC (2014)

6) England 3

1 ODI WC (2019)

2 T20 WC (2010, 2022)

 

7) New Zealand 2

1 ICC Test Championship (2021)

1 CT (2000)

8) South Africa 1
1 CT (1998)