LordPrabhzy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, Vilander said: Don't talk disrespectfully, i am being reapectful so keep yourself in line. 620 vs 30 that's unfair budget allocation only possible reason for that is hardcore bias. and youre gonna do what exactly? Machine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 3 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: which of the parties in my list are pro India? Are you going to add AIMIM to that list too? This should be interesting as most of their existence is based on spiting BJP rather than focusing on developing their state and they will go to any lengths to do this. As i said having a democratic right comes with consequences.. as a voter of these anti national parties you cannot have your cake and eat it too. You cant abuse the party in centre and the people they are mandated by and also at the same time enjoy unlimited financial investment for development ( which could have happened if their regional parties didnt loot the money and use it for freebies) How are regional parties anti India ? AIMM wins only 4-5 seats. Even owasi defends india against Pakistan multiple interviews on YouTube if you care to look. How is TRS, Biju Janata dal, AAP etc anti india ? Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vilander said: I mentioned that since you mentioned anti bihari anti tamil riots in mah. Look your posts are very subjective mine are factual. So far in your responses you have provided no statistical explanation behind the budget allocations for gujrat. That shows the reality. Anti Bihari anti Tamil in Maharashtra is regional stuff and is not same as communal riots. data you provided is presumed correct by me but context and reasoning is what we differ upon. For example GDP per capita of Gujrat(3rd) should be same or more than Maharashtra (1st) but I am not blindly concluding on that data, that Maharashtra has had unfair lions share of National budget which is what one can easily deduce if it wants to do simple logic. One can also argue that previous central gvmnt has been unfair to other state’s citizens vis a vis Maharashtrian and just some rebalancing is happening as Gujrat is equally well placed geographically. But bottomline is , Gujrat is probably easier to develop now as its strategically placed and politically stable. GoI will pick nxt state once it find investment vs reward ratio is better in some other state( just like Andaman and Nicobar) Edited January 3 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) / Edited January 3 by Moochad Not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, mishra said: Anti Bihari anti Tamil in Maharashtra regional stuff and is not same as communal riots. data you provided is presumed correct by me but context and reasoning is what we differ upon. For example GDP per capita of Gujrat(3rd) should be same or more than Maharashtra (1st) but I am not blindly concluding on that data that Maharashtra has had unfair share of National budget which is what one can easily deduce if it wants to do simple logic. One can also argue that previous central gvmnt has been unfair to other state’s citizens vis a vis Maharashtrian and just some rebalancing is happening as Gujrat is equally well placed geographically. OK on that account how about TN that has second gdp and KA , guj has far greater allocation as well. No matter how you look at it any unbiased person will clearly see a case of favoritism in play here. This is sub optimal and will lead to other states attempting the same. I could not care less about maharashtra may be they did the same in their time. So it's a template pretty much. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, LordPrabhzy said: and youre gonna do what exactly? You won't have a discussion with em that's about it. What do you think anyone can do its a discussion forum. Keep it to that otherwise there is none. Binary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Vilander said: OK on that account how about TN that has second gdp and KA , guj has far greater allocation as well. No matter how you look at it any unbiased person will clearly see a case of favoritism in play here. This is sub optimal and will lead to other states attempting the same. I could not care less about maharashtra may be they did the same in their time. So it's a template pretty much. I firmly believe Tamilnadu should build Ram Sethu and Sethusamudram Canal instead of wasting energy on other stuff. That will immensely benefit State and country. Stalin shoul go with plan to Modi. Edited January 3 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, gattaca said: How are regional parties anti India ? AIMM wins only 4-5 seats. Even owasi defends india against Pakistan multiple interviews on YouTube if you care to look. How is TRS, Biju Janata dal, AAP etc anti india ? Yes I referred to the list I stated in my earlier post- not EVERY regional party in the country. Jheez you lot need to improve your analytical skills. also doesn’t matter what Owaisi says in Pakistan when his own brother and his party members threaten to kill Hindus openly ( who are incidentally Indians too) so don’t use that dogshite of an instance as an attempt to whitewash Owaisi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 (edited) 22 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: Yes I referred to the list I stated in my earlier post- not EVERY regional party in the country. Jheez you lot need to improve your analytical skills. also doesn’t matter what Owaisi says in Pakistan when his own brother and his party members threaten to kill Hindus openly ( who are incidentally Indians too) so don’t use that dogshite of an instance as an attempt to whitewash Owaisi. Being anti India different than being anti bjp. Assauddin owasi never threatened Hindus. There were BJP leaders who threatened Muslims as well. Does that constitute anti India ? Edited January 3 by gattaca Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 43 minutes ago, gattaca said: Being anti India different than being anti bjp. Assauddin owasi never threatened Hindus. There were BJP leaders who threatened Muslims as well. Does that constitute anti India ? He has never stopped his party and his family members saying those statements so yes by association he has the same views. you can put it anyway you want- but in the garb of being anti bjp the regional parties I mentioned have made their stance clear about what they think about India. And most Hindus in india have seen through them now- so either way regardless of how ideal BJP may not be on governing but as of now all the opposition is out of the race of governing the country for many years. The sooner people accept it the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 44 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: He has never stopped his party and his family members saying those statements so yes by association he has the same views. you can put it anyway you want- but in the garb of being anti bjp the regional parties I mentioned have made their stance clear about what they think about India. And most Hindus in india have seen through them now- so either way regardless of how ideal BJP may not be on governing but as of now all the opposition is out of the race of governing the country for many years. The sooner people accept it the better. TRS was never against BJP they voted for multiple bills for BJP. They became anti BJP after improper funding allocations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LordPrabhzy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, gattaca said: TRS was never against BJP they voted for multiple bills for BJP. They became anti BJP after improper funding allocations. Politics aside https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/kolkata/stones-pelted-vande-bharat-express-west-bengal-launch-bjp-tmc-8358302/ This is the reason states like this dont deserve anything nice.. fecking animals the lot of them. Tibarn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFever Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 12/29/2022 at 4:40 AM, mishra said: Advantage BJP has over any other state including Maharashtra is following. 1. Consistent BJP Government. 2. No opposition to people from other states on grounds of "Outsider". All states with sea shore have a advantage vis a vis land locked state but only Gujrat has shown that they are okie with anyone working in their state. 3. Politicians failed to divide Community on basis of cast (Reservation for Patels and other freebies failed) 4. It has couple of richest Indians belonging to that community. So they can make/do deals with Western heads (You do know that long before Indian PM visited white House, Ambains used to visit white House and their influence must have played role during Clinton era). 5. It has very solid NRI base, even those NRI's are core pro India and nationalistic which is very clear on issues like Kashmir, Khalistan, Pakistan, China and so on. Even on this forum, You never see any Gujju displaying any regionalist sentiments. 6. Agreed that Gujju Community is money minded but what they do when they get rich. They end up buying creating Mumbai Indians and Not Mumbai Gujratis in India and building traditional temples and pro India social groups in West. So conclusion, Projects which have long term, National and Security (It include economic security) implications will automatically choose Gujrat as safest place by Central Government headed by BJP. Dairy, Diamond, Dispensary (pharmaceutical) of India belongs to Gujjus. Chemical,Chips will belong to Gujjus. Despite not being a Gujju, I am proud of Gujjus achevements and consider them as role model for other Indian State Communities. We have one gujju on this forum who is single handedly destroying the credibility of the gujrati community, with his regional bias towards only Gujrati players. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: and youre gonna do what exactly? Is that the right way to talk to a fellow member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, RedFever said: We have one gujju on this forum who is single handedly destroying the credibility of the gujrati community, with his regional bias towards only Gujrati players. One person never defines a community. Gujaratis have our respect, and nothing will diminish that. Difference of opinion is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, Khota said: Is that the right way to talk to a fellow member? Very aggressive vegetarians and Internet tough guys Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 6 hours ago, gattaca said: Being anti India different than being anti bjp. Yup so when faced with insurmountable evidence of biased pm hm pseudo pressure to divert funding and allocations to home state, proof given is rest of Indian states are anti India for some or other reason. May be we should add guj is not equal go india. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 37 minutes ago, Vilander said: Very aggressive vegetarians and Internet tough guys Lot of e-courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) On 12/31/2022 at 2:16 AM, Clarke said: That's just the quality of the forum these days. A rat that belongs to the sewer gets to define the narrative of my state. Find me one such comment from a Gujarati leader of importance like the one your Raja put out earlier this year or the Pani Puri jibes that are trendy these days or even the other Thackeray type ideology. I'm not even going to the tens of thousands, maybe lakhs of Kashmiris or Punjabis or Northeasterners that either supported militant secessionist movements or sympathized with them. Well said, here's a more complete list : 1)People from states with significant populations who actively opposed the Indian independence movement as loyal British servants (Punjab and TN), 2) Tried to balkanize India before/during Independence, ie Dravida Nadu/Khalistan (Punjab and TN), 3)Murdered Indian PMs (Punjab and TN) 4)Attempted an ethnic cleansing of their Hindu population(Punjab, J&K, NE) 5)Past terror movement against India(Punjab, J&K, NE) 6) Currently have people with separatist fantasies (Punjab, Kashmir, TN) These types are claiming that Gujaratis are the most regional minded. Edited January 4 by Tibarn Vilander, mishra, coffee_rules and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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