Gollum Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 No bad blood towards normal Gujjus who won't benefit from all this, applies to 99.9% of the state's people. But if a few billionaires are benefitting, if Reliance gets a push, if infrastructure contracts are preferentially allotted to say Adani, we have every right to ask whether decisions have been taken in right earnest or to benefit the nation. IMO if we want to reach an acceptable level in sports (Olympics, Asian Games ones), major focus should be on the Punjab-Haryana-Delhi-Rajasthan (partially) belt. Secondary centres in pahadi regions, North East etc. Gujarat has high ceiling in cricket, as does Mumbai, TN has chess/tennis, Telugu states with badminton, Kerala in track/football, tribal regions in archery/hockey, Bengal/Goa in football etc. But when it comes to a diversity of sports, these states don't cut it. Vilander 1
FischerTal Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 OP should change title now to Projects lost to Amaravati. coffee_rules 1
Vilander Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 12:19 AM, Gollum said: As is the norm, Haryana helped us get our first medal in Paris. Haryana, Punjab sportspersons made a few more finals, another medal round today by a Haryana/Punjab team in mixed 10m air pistol. These two states will give us 5-6 medals at least by end of the games. Let us see how many from Guj. Can they justify the above table? Btw India bidding for 2036 Olympics, campaign entrusted on Ambanis, even had IOC President in their residence recently. Choice of venue, Ahmedabad 2036!!!!! In WC also they hosted the money spinner IndoPak game (despite drama about isolating Pak), and the farcical WC final. No they can't. 3 athletes from guj. 25 odd from har and punj. 15 odd from TN. So nope
Vilander Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 OK correct numbers https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fstate-wise-representation-in-team-india-at-the-paris-v0-6ljg506brzed1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D316fd6b49bc372515d2bf5fe68ca09b901414706 H25, p19, tn13 Guj 2
Chaos Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 40 minutes ago, Vilander said: OK correct numbers https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fstate-wise-representation-in-team-india-at-the-paris-v0-6ljg506brzed1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D316fd6b49bc372515d2bf5fe68ca09b901414706 H25, p19, tn13 Guj 2 its obvious… modi will help his own state. As long as he does development in other states he will be fine. No better running candidates anyway. That rahul gandhi is a joke
coffee_rules Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 12:49 AM, FischerTal said: OP should change title now to Projects lost to Amaravati. Or to Patna or Bhubaneswar FischerTal 1
Chaos Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Or to Patna or Bhubaneswar it will be mission AMARAVATI.
Vilander Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 12 hours ago, Chaos said: its obvious… modi will help his own state. As long as he does development in other states he will be fine. No better running candidates anyway. That rahul gandhi is a joke No it's not obvious it's pathetic immoral and disingenuous is he gujrat pm? He is Indias pm right? Only people who have similar morals will condone this. Such loose morals will land people in trouble. Look at this guy for instance. https://www.fox4news.com/news/store-clerk-steal-lottery-ticket Meet Patel https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/store-clerk-arrested-for-stealing-winning-1m-lottery-ticket-b2585045.html Chaos 1
Gollum Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 16 hours ago, Vilander said: OK correct numbers https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fstate-wise-representation-in-team-india-at-the-paris-v0-6ljg506brzed1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D316fd6b49bc372515d2bf5fe68ca09b901414706 H25, p19, tn13 Guj 2 TN and some other states may have sent many athletes but none of them is close to winning any medal. Haryana, Punjab in a different stratosphere, only they are winning or coming close to winning medals. Gujarat is a non-entity, joke that they get so much funding. In a fair world, you reward a performing state like Haryana which is an Olympic medal winning factory despite 2.5 crores population.
LordPrabhzy Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 47 minutes ago, Gollum said: TN and some other states may have sent many athletes but none of them is close to winning any medal. Haryana, Punjab in a different stratosphere, only they are winning or coming close to winning medals. Gujarat is a non-entity, joke that they get so much funding. In a fair world, you reward a performing state like Haryana which is an Olympic medal winning factory despite 2.5 crores population. if the funding from Khelo Bharat in majority has gone to Gujarat ( or a lot of it) and there is no return of investment in the number of athletes or medals then the funding should be minimal and id rather that money be pumped into Punjab/Haryana for Boxing/wrestling and hockey + in NE for finding gymnasts. Gujjis have no interest in sport or military, they just want to go to America or have businesses. Not sure why non related stuff to this is reserved for them- develop cities economically, but dont give them money for something they aint interested in. Gollum 1
Gollum Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 1 minute ago, LordPrabhzy said: if the funding from Khelo Bharat in majority has gone to Gujarat ( or a lot of it) and there is no return of investment in the number of athletes or medals then the funding should be minimal and id rather that money be pumped into Punjab/Haryana for Boxing/wrestling and hockey + in NE for finding gymnasts. Gujjis have no interest in sport or military, they just want to go to America or have businesses. Not sure why non related stuff to this is reserved for them- develop cities economically, but dont give them money for something they aint interested in. Clear bias at play. But many choose to deliberately ignore. Invest that much in Haryana, Punjab and they will give you many more medals in 2032 or 2036 Games.
Vilander Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 5 hours ago, Gollum said: TN and some other states may have sent many athletes but none of them is close to winning any medal. Haryana, Punjab in a different stratosphere, only they are winning or coming close to winning medals. Gujarat is a non-entity, joke that they get so much funding. In a fair world, you reward a performing state like Haryana which is an Olympic medal winning factory despite 2.5 crores population. Performance required to be eligible for competition. But compensation can be linked to performance at podium for individual for shre . State performance otoh should be based on how their involvement enables more athletes to reach Olympics. You want more athelete at that level.
Trichromatic Posted August 11, 2024 Posted August 11, 2024 Biggest expense in Gujarat is sports complex in Ahmedabad Serial Number State/UTs with district Project Name Grantee Type Infrastructure Date of sanction Amount sanctioned Amount released Amount Remaining Work Completed 1 Gujarat Construction of Synthetic Athletic Track at Naroda, District Ahmadabad State/UT Government Athletic Track 2017-03-20 5.00 5.00 0 100% 2 Gujarat Laying of Synthetic Hockey Turf at Devgadh Bariya, District Dahod State/UT Government Hockey Field 2017-07-28 4.38 4.38 0 100% 3 Gujarat Construction of Multi-Purpose Hall at Swarnim Gujarat Sports University, Valavav, District Vadodara Other eligible entities Multipurpose Hall 2017-12-08 8.00 8.00 0 100% 4 Gujarat Construction of Swimming Pool at Swarnim Gujarat Sports University, Valavav, District Vadodara Other eligible entities Swimming Pool 2018-12-18 5.00 5.00 0 100% 5 Gujarat Construction of sports complex at Naranpura District Ahmedabad State/UT Government Others 2021-08-03 583.99 403.75 180.24 73%
Trichromatic Posted August 11, 2024 Posted August 11, 2024 This sports complex is hardly 8 km from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardar_Vallabhbhai_Patel_Sports_Enclave which is supposed to be largest sports complex in India. You really needed a sports complex next to largest sports complex of India?
Trichromatic Posted August 11, 2024 Posted August 11, 2024 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/state-govt-ready-with-svp-sports-enclave-master-plan/articleshow/106651518.cms This is 6000 cr project different from 583 cr project from Khelo India. Quote GANDHINAGAR: Gujarat government, which is preparing to make a bid for Ahmedabad to host the 2036 Olympic Games, has readied the master plan for the Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel Sports Enclave. It is expected to be ready in three years and promises to be the country’s largest integrated sports infrastructure precinct.
Trichromatic Posted August 11, 2024 Posted August 11, 2024 No prizes for guessing where 2nd biggest project under Khelo India scheme is. Serial Number State/UTs with district Project Name Grantee Type Infrastructure Date of sanction Amount sanctioned Amount released Amount Remaining Work Completed 29 Uttar Pradesh Development and Modernisation of Sigra Stadium, District Varanasi State/UT Government Others 2022-07-05 315.48 265.81 49.67 82%
Trichromatic Posted August 11, 2024 Posted August 11, 2024 On 8/1/2024 at 12:17 PM, Gollum said: Clear bias at play. But many choose to deliberately ignore. Invest that much in Haryana, Punjab and they will give you many more medals in 2032 or 2036 Games. Because it's done by their favorite party. If you question, they will show how others are doing same.
mishra Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 On 8/11/2024 at 4:05 AM, Trichromatic said: This sports complex is hardly 8 km from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardar_Vallabhbhai_Patel_Sports_Enclave which is supposed to be largest sports complex in India. You really needed a sports complex next to largest sports complex of India? If Its part of Olympic bid planning. It has to be at close locations. Olympic Complexes dont win you medals. You win medals by Research in Medical Science, Coaches and facilities at grass root level
Trichromatic Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 8 hours ago, mishra said: If Its part of Olympic bid planning. It has to be at close locations. Olympic Complexes dont win you medals. You win medals by Research in Medical Science, Coaches and facilities at grass root level Then the Naranpura complex of 584 cr should have been funded by Ahmedabad Municipal corporation or some other scheme of central government and not under Khelo India scheme. Bigger sports complex in motera was funded by AMC for 6000 cr. Why is central govt funding ambition of one state to bid for Olympics under a scheme which was not meant for hosting Olympics?
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