zen Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 11 hours ago, Clarke said: One has to wonder off late how "Indian" is this forum called Indian cricket fans. There has been very active members who are khalistan movement deniers, the khalistan movement is something the Indian govt & intelligence apparatus takes very seriously. If that wasn't bad enough, sedition talk is seemingly accepted. Although this is mostly by members who are foreigners, it creates an absurd impression for netizens. Goodbye! Now dragging in Khalistan It is a discussion for the people of Punjab! Some leaders in TN have said this - https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/national/south/don-t-push-us-to-revive-separate-country-demand-dmk-s-raja-to-centre-1123819.html Don’t push us to revive 'separate country' demand: DMK’s Raja to Centre. That is a discussion for the people of TN. These can be discussions b/w centre and the respective states. Most states in India are like countries with their unique culture, which has existed even before India was “India”. Self respecting cultures are not going to marginalize themselves with a mass paint brush of a “Soviet” or a “British” India. Countries are for people not the other way around. The British rule brought these people together in the 20th century. 21st or 22nd century would have different priorities. Do not judge the world with your limited knowledge. A person can be a Sikh/Hindu/etc, a Punjabi/Tamil/etc and Indian/etc at the same time and also assign different weights. Edited January 1 by zen Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/24/2022 at 11:29 PM, Khota said: And of course, it has nothing to do with Modi. THREAD Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 The biggest problem is with social media and internet folks take a harsh stance. Everything is binary, right or wrong, but real life is shades of grey. I think every member on this forum is a real nice person, one can converse with. But on internet for some reason the worst comes out. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Old one: (2020) IT IS OFFICIAL: CITY’S IFSC DREAM DEAD It’s official -- Mumbai’s long-held dream of becoming an International Financial Services Centre (IFSC) is dead and buried. The central government in its gazette notification dated April 27 has declared that Gandhinagar in Gujarat will be the headquarters for the IFSC Authority. Gandhinagar is where Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s dream project – the Gujarat International Finance-Tech City (GIFT) – is taking shape. While it has been clear for a few years that Modi wanted Gandhinagar to have the coveted title, that Mumbai stood no chance became apparent when he forced his own government in Maharashtra to give up the land set aside for IFSC in BKC for a Bullet Train terminal. According to a senior banker, an IFSC in Mumbai would have helped create at least 100,000 new jobs in the financial sector directly and another 100,000 in ancillary services.A CEO of a major brokerage house, who did not wish to be identified, said: “After Modi became the prime minister in May 2014, Mumbai’s dream of becoming an IFSC was dead. The January 27 notification has only confirmed the death.” In December 2017, while answering a question in the Lok Sabha, the then finance minister Arun Jaitley had made it clear that there can be only one IFSC in the country and that it will be the GIFT city.Political analyst Hemant Desai said Modi’s love for his home state defeated Mumbai’s natural claim to the status of an IFSC. “Modi, even after becoming the prime minister, has not forgotten that he is a Gujarati first,” he said.Another banker requesting anonymity, however, said that just the title does not make an IFSC. “As long as Mumbai has the RBI, SEBI, BSE, NSE and several national and international financial institutions are headquartered here, the city cannot be robbed of its status as the financial capital of country,” he said. https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/cover-story/it-is-official-citys-ifsc-dream-dead/articleshow/75481064.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Congress slams move to shift ISRO programme from Bengaluru to Gujarat BENGALURU: Congress leaders on Wednesday staged a protest outside the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) office in the city demanding that the space agency drop the proposal to shift the Indian Human Space Flight Programme to Gujarat from Bengaluru. "Karnataka is not just the IT hub, but it is also a technology hub and ISRO is headquartered here. They are now shifting the Human Space Flight Programme to Gujarat,” Shivakumar said. After the Congress opposed the move, ISRO Chairman K Sivan is defending the government, he said." “If it happens (the proposal materialises), the Kannadigas will feel that the Central Government is ignoring, betraying and giving scant respect to the feelings of the local people,” Shivakumar had stated in his letter to the CM. https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/2021/dec/02/congress-slams-move-to-shift-isroprogramme-from-bengaluru-to-gujarat-2390668.html https://www.deccanherald.com/state/karnataka-congress-protests-shifting-gaganyaan-to-gujarat-1056707.html Edited January 2 by Pollack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) On 12/31/2022 at 5:43 PM, Vilander said: Folks it's disgusting to see a central govt in India which is this outright biased and clanish. Its even more disgusting to see folks trying to support such behavior. Such behavior should never be normalised, as it would be gujrat now and then some other state next. Only thing disgusting is divisive regionalist politics of regional family run parties being sold as projects lost to Gujrat when Gujrat model was allways quoted as example during anti Modi/anti BJP, Congress rule in Centre Edited January 2 by mishra zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 13 hours ago, Pollack said: Congress slams move to shift ISRO programme from Bengaluru to Gujarat BENGALURU: Congress leaders on Wednesday staged a protest outside the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) office in the city demanding that the space agency drop the proposal to shift the Indian Human Space Flight Programme to Gujarat from Bengaluru. "Karnataka is not just the IT hub, but it is also a technology hub and ISRO is headquartered here. They are now shifting the Human Space Flight Programme to Gujarat,” Shivakumar said. After the Congress opposed the move, ISRO Chairman K Sivan is defending the government, he said." “If it happens (the proposal materialises), the Kannadigas will feel that the Central Government is ignoring, betraying and giving scant respect to the feelings of the local people,” Shivakumar had stated in his letter to the CM. https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/2021/dec/02/congress-slams-move-to-shift-isroprogramme-from-bengaluru-to-gujarat-2390668.html https://www.deccanherald.com/state/karnataka-congress-protests-shifting-gaganyaan-to-gujarat-1056707.html Why shouldn’t ISRO program go to Bihar or Mizoram? Why Karnataka only? zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) In makes no difference to “India” whether Mumbai or whatever has IFSC or ISRO or whatever. Moreover projects should now go out of these metros, which have benefitted a lot in the past, to other cities. Edited January 2 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, mishra said: Why shouldn’t ISRO program go to Bihar or Mizoram? Why Karnataka only? All space programs need to be near ocean usually. Houston and Sriharikota are examples. Bihar and mizoram are land locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 So many articles show clear bias for gujarat. No defending that. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, mishra said: Why shouldn’t ISRO program go to Bihar or Mizoram? Why Karnataka only? I agree. But you do need coastline to avoid population centers but some other projects can easily be diverted to Bihar. Semiconductor industry is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) I have provided articles clearing showing bias. Discussed why Gujarat was not the correct choice for many of the projects with proper data, logic and arguments. Many of these projects were "Shifted" to Gujarat so werent the first choice but last moment jumlas influenced by political interference. What arguments those defending this bias have: "Gujarat was always great. Gujaratis are businessman. Its in their blood.Gujarat is in India." Only generalized statement. No proper counter arguments. What qualifications does Gujarat have for IFSC when all the finance bodies are headquartered in Mumbai? This was long cherished dream of Mumbai since 2009. What qualifications does Gujarat have for such huge funds under "Khelo India" scheme? Why no arguments like Gujarat is always great in sports? Gujaratis are always sports loving people. Regarding space program it almost looks like a "need" is forcibly been created to accommodate ambition of Gujarat in space programs. If the control centre is moved Karnataka will obviously feel betrayed but in the long run it will be good to have another centre for space program. The problem here is instead of getting new projects/programs on its own for fulfilling ambitions of Gujarat, Modiji snatches it from other states which creates discontent. This is my last post here because for "bhakts" modiji is not human, he is God. He cannot have personal bias. He can do no wrong. He is perfect. Edited January 3 by Pollack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 hours ago, mishra said: Only thing disgusting is divisive regionalist politics of regional family run parties being sold as projects lost to Gujrat when Gujrat model was allways quoted as example during anti Modi/anti BJP, Congress rule in Centre Explain this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 hours ago, mishra said: Why shouldn’t ISRO program go to Bihar or Mizoram? Why Karnataka only? Why everything should go to gujrat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Why everything should go to gujrat ? Read my earlier post as to why Gujrat is most reliable state to invest when it comes to FDIs or national interest project. Bottom line is, You can’t have a anti Hindi, anti Hindu, pro communist or a family rule in a state and then assume that rest of India will blindly trust that state for critical projects. Sinple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 9 hours ago, Khota said: I agree. But you do need coastline to avoid population centers but some other projects can easily be diverted to Bihar. Semiconductor industry is one. And then use road to reach Kolkata or Mumbai or Other coastal state for export purpose while occasionally production gets hijacked by Bahubali’s of Bihar. FYKI, Russian Space Program is HQed in Moscow. Our Rockets dont fall in Bay of Bengal or Arabian ocean as they used to do in 90s Edited January 3 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Explain this. IIRC Andaman has got most amount of money compared to land mass and population. So interest of nation is kept ahead of politics by GoI https://eurasiantimes.com/choking-china-indias-strategic-islands-get-a-3-4b-investment/ Also MP doesnt gets that much importance as UP, goes to show that despite being a BJP rule state ,Investment not a guranteed unless state CM is desperate and can pull strings. Yogiji is going to Davos to get investment not Stalin and he wont get drunk and delay the flight https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/did-a-drunk-bhagwant-mann-delay-an-international-flight/cid/1887567 Edited January 3 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 32 minutes ago, mishra said: IIRC Andaman has got most amount of money compared to land mass and population. So interest of nation is kept ahead of politics by GoI https://eurasiantimes.com/choking-china-indias-strategic-islands-get-a-3-4b-investment/ Also MP doesnt gets that much importance as UP, goes to show that despite being a BJP rule state ,Investment not a guranteed unless state CM is desperate and can pull strings. Yogiji is going to Davos to get investment not Stalin and he wont get drunk and delay the flight https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/did-a-drunk-bhagwant-mann-delay-an-international-flight/cid/1887567 What is your point ? How do you explain Gujrat getting 20 times funding of similar sized states like Andhra or TN or 25 times Kerala. What's the logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, mishra said: Read my earlier post as to why Gujrat is most reliable state to invest when it comes to FDIs or national interest project. Bottom line is, You can’t have a anti Hindi, anti Hindu, pro communist or a family rule in a state and then assume that rest of India will blindly trust that state for critical projects. Sinple as that Which state js like that ? All that are your assumptions. Others would opinion that funds are influenced by amit shah and modi to their state of birth. Plain simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Hindi or Hindu is not equal to Indian. That's not a reason to divert funds and projects from other states to Guj. Its laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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