speedracer Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, SRT100 said: Most Australians who follow AFL/Rugby know a lot about ACL injuries (not to mention PCL etc) because it is not only a common injury in these sports which is discussed in great detail but effectively ends the player for the next 12 months. If Pant has damaged/strain/torn/tear his ACL, he is looking at 12 months out of the game at least. Thats not taking into account that he then needs to play state cricket and find form. If anything being wicketkeeper amplifies the issues of any damage, as this position involves a lot of 360 degree movement, then you add this in conjunction with batting and running between wickets and I can confidentially tell you the medical advice will be 12 months minimum out of the game. There is an option if it is an ACL tear that he can get a transplant from a cadaver or an artificial graft. This would lead to return to the playing field within potentially 3-4 months. The last part would mean surgery though? Sounds bad for us. We badly need him. I guess next bgt is at the end of the year I believe? Link to comment
mani sha Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, speedracer said: The last part would mean surgery though? Sounds bad for us. We badly need him. I guess next bgt is at the end of the year I believe? I really doubt if he has a tear of ligaments . Car driving injuries are usually crush injuries and bone injuries . For Acl to get injured , his knee has had to have rotated somehow badly . Mercedes is a strong car and my best guess is he has a small contusion of his ligaments . Ct scans are highly inaccurate - mri is needed to look for tears and in all likelihood his injury will be less than what jadeja had - I am more worried about jadeja comeback than pant Link to comment
speedracer Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, mani sha said: I really doubt if he has a tear of ligaments . Car driving injuries are usually crush injuries and bone injuries . For Acl to get injured , his knee has had to have rotated somehow badly . Mercedes is a strong car and my best guess is he has a small contusion of his ligaments . Ct scans are highly inaccurate - mri is needed to look for tears and in all likelihood his injury will be less than what jadeja had - I am more worried about jadeja comeback than pant Hopefully. When will jadds be back? Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 27 minutes ago, speedracer said: Hopefully. When will jadds be back? maybe a few months from now Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 55 minutes ago, mani sha said: I really doubt if he has a tear of ligaments . Car driving injuries are usually crush injuries and bone injuries . For Acl to get injured , his knee has had to have rotated somehow badly . Mercedes is a strong car and my best guess is he has a small contusion of his ligaments . Ct scans are highly inaccurate - mri is needed to look for tears and in all likelihood his injury will be less than what jadeja had - I am more worried about jadeja comeback than pant Both injuries were avoidable. Jaddu did some half baked underwater training. Pant drove alone in the wee hours with nobody to accompany. Then we have Hit man rather injury-Hit man Hit man injury list/Rest list Feb 2020 - Calf injury OCt 2020 - Hamstring injury Dec 2021 - Hamstring injury June 2022 - Rested July 2022 England match - COVID-19 Jul 2022 WI series - Rested Dec 2022 - Finger injury rollingstoned, SRT100, Vijy and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Both injuries were avoidable. Jaddu did some half baked underwater training. Pant drove alone in the wee hours with nobody to accompany. Then we have Hit man rather injury-Hit man Hit man injury list/Rest list Feb 2020 - Calf injury OCt 2020 - Hamstring injury Dec 2021 - Hamstring injury June 2022 - Rested July 2022 England match - COVID-19 Jul 2022 WI series - Rested Dec 2022 - Finger injury jaddu and pant should be a bit more responsible. as for fatman (i.e., hitman), time for him to retire rollingstoned and SRT100 2 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, speedracer said: The last part would mean surgery though? Sounds bad for us. We badly need him. I guess next bgt is at the end of the year I believe? First best to wait to see what the prognosis is and the extent of the ligament damage, if its strained, tear or torn. The Indian doctors should be consulting with experts overseas in the field who manage and deal specifically ACL and ligament damage to athletes. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, SRT100 said: First best to wait to see what the prognosis is and the extent of the ligament damage, if its strained, tear or torn. The Indian doctors should be consulting with experts overseas in the field who manage and deal specifically ACL and ligament damage to athletes. the BCCI doctors will find a way to botch if up. an incompetent board is likely to have incompetent doctors. SRT100 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 16 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Both injuries were avoidable. Jaddu did some half baked underwater training. Pant drove alone in the wee hours with nobody to accompany. Then we have Hit man rather injury-Hit man Hit man injury list/Rest list Feb 2020 - Calf injury OCt 2020 - Hamstring injury Dec 2021 - Hamstring injury June 2022 - Rested July 2022 England match - COVID-19 Jul 2022 WI series - Rested Dec 2022 - Finger injury You want to know something and its something you heard here first on ICF and not anywhere else. Its not been discussed anywhere else. Pant's Mercede's almost certainly 100% decelerated before impact. Those Mercedes safety systems activate in like millionths of a second, where they tighten seat belt, adjust headrest, and slow the car down almost to zero. He must have been literally flying on that road. As I said before if he was in your average car, he would be dead. I dont say that lightly or to be dramatic. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Vijy said: the BCCI doctors will find a way to botch if up. an incompetent board is likely to have incompetent doctors. It would be arrogant of them to deal with an ACL injury of an athlete without consultation with experts in this field who deal and have dealt with this successfully. Even in Australia, there is consultation with Euro and US doctors. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, SRT100 said: It would be arrogant of them to deal with an ACL injury of an athlete without consultation with experts in this field who deal and have dealt with this successfully. Even in Australia, there is consultation with Euro and US doctors. BCCI's middle name is arrogance. another middle name is incompetence. and one more is nepotism, corruption,... you get the gist SRT100 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, SRT100 said: You want to know something and its something you heard here first on ICF and not anywhere else. Its not been discussed anywhere else. Pant's Mercede's almost certainly 100% decelerated before impact. Those Mercedes safety systems activate in like millionths of a second, where they tighten seat belt, adjust headrest, and slow the car down almost to zero. He must have been literally flying on that road. As I said before if he was in your average car, he would be dead. I dont say that lightly or to be dramatic. Yup. Could have been a deadly tragedy. He was extremely lucky that there were no other vehicles involved in the crash. Hope he takes this up as a lesson. Vijy 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yup. Could have been a deadly tragedy. He was extremely lucky that there were no other vehicles involved in the crash. Hope he takes this up as a lesson. I hope so... he has been rather immature of late. I feel sorry for him though SRT100 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yup. Could have been a deadly tragedy. He was extremely lucky that there were no other vehicles involved in the crash. Hope he takes this up as a lesson. I will give you another exclusive here first on ICF, Pant's Merceds GLE43 will have likely recorded the moment before impact, ie, what speed, whether he was breaking etc etc which is called EDR. Now Im not 100% sure it would have survived the fire bomb that ensued. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Vijy said: I hope so... he has been rather immature of late. I feel sorry for him though Felt sorry for him being mocked in Australia for his weight, when he was clearly the best batsmen in our side that didnt play in the First Test. Vijy 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Vijy said: I hope so... he has been rather immature of late. I feel sorry for him though This is a traumatizing experience. He is unlikely to take oral advices seriously. Dhawan already offered him. Although Police say he is not "over speeding" video doesn't lie. That speed zone is apparently 50 to 80 km. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: This is a traumatizing experience. He is unlikely to take oral advices seriously. Dhawan already offered him. Although Police say he is not "over speeding" video doesn't lie. That speed zone is apparently 50 to 80 km. I hope he will at least learn from what happened now Link to comment
speedracer Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 32 minutes ago, SRT100 said: I will give you another exclusive here first on ICF, Pant's Merceds GLE43 will have likely recorded the moment before impact, ie, what speed, whether he was breaking etc etc which is called EDR. Now Im not 100% sure it would have survived the fire bomb that ensued. My partner has the c200 and it does have some pretty cool advanced gadgets. Built dash cam etc. Automatic safety systems. accident alerts. And man those cars are durable as f. Outstanding design and overall safety. Vijy 1 Link to comment
Stuge Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 https://m.timesofindia.com/city/dehradun/pant-undergoes-plastic-surgery-on-forehead/articleshow/96657159.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOICitiesNews Link to comment
Stuge Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: This is a traumatizing experience. He is unlikely to take oral advices seriously. Dhawan already offered him. Although Police say he is not "over speeding" video doesn't lie. That speed zone is apparently 50 to 80 km. 1 hour ago, SRT100 said: First best to wait to see what the prognosis is and the extent of the ligament damage, if its strained, tear or torn. The Indian doctors should be consulting with experts overseas in the field who manage and deal specifically ACL and ligament damage to athletes. They ae waiting for clots to heal up than they will.perform MRI . Link to comment
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