Khota Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Unfortunately, Indias is a single sport nation. Hockey is not one of it. In any case let us thank the CM of Odisha for at least trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, Khota said: Unfortunately, Indias is a single sport nation. Hockey is not one of it. In any case let us thank the CM of Odisha for at least trying. Even then we haven’t won a ICC trophy for 10 years.. India is a money/fame chasing nation- once you get that there’s no personal pride left to perform. Frustrated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 43 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: Even then we haven’t won a ICC trophy for 10 years.. India is a money/fame chasing nation- once you get that there’s no personal pride left to perform. That can be blamed on the culture. Look at Rohit, he has put on weight. Not one football player in your premier league looks so pathetic as he does. Stan AF, Frustrated and speedracer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Lol nz again. We need to develop a sports culture. Not good enough. Nothing to do with physical ability. There are plenty of players with physical ability but if we are going to play domestic games on grass then how would that help us perform on astro in WCs? Belgium Aussies and nedtherlands are a level above. England is on a similar level to us at the moment. Then Germany is around there too. Argentina can surprise teams but aren't consistent. Rest are just well below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, Khota said: That can be blamed on the culture. Look at Rohit, he has put on weight. Not one football player in your premier league looks so pathetic as he does. Correct. As soon as we attain a bit of fame, it's like they stop trying. Target achieved so now they feel entitled to do as the please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 32 minutes ago, speedracer said: Lol nz again. We need to develop a sports culture. Not good enough. Nothing to do with physical ability. There are plenty of players with physical ability but if we are going to play domestic games on grass then how would that help us perform on astro in WCs? Belgium Aussies and nedtherlands are a level above. England is on a similar level to us at the moment. Then Germany is around there too. Argentina can surprise teams but aren't consistent. Rest are just well below. Profoundly disagree- there are hundreds of hockey clubs in the communities and universities with astro turfs everywhere in UK. Same with Germany. They have a better sporting culture than us We are at best 8/9th best in the world when it comes to consistent results. winning some fluke games against 2nd string Dutch/Belgium/Aus sides in the Pro League doesnt mean jack shite speedracer and Khota 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek04 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We as a land of yoga and meditation, always crumbles when there are pressure situations be it in big icc match or in other sports like today. Talent is not enough to win but cool and calm un tough situations is equally important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 I fear what will happen if hypothetically if Patnaik's party loses in Odisha.. the hockey team can overnight lose all its sponsorships.. has the Indian Gov thought about this eventuality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: I fear what will happen if hypothetically if Patnaik's party loses in Odisha.. the hockey team can overnight lose all its sponsorships.. has the Indian Gov thought about this eventuality? Can't say what will happen if patnaik's party(BJD) loses. But i dont see that happening anytime soon. Niether Bjp nor congress has any presence here in odisha, as of now. Coming to hockey, i think it's high time our govt takes this seriously. Afterall, it's our national game. We saw considerable improvements in many events of the 2021 olympics (No one would hv thought about securing the gold and overall decent medals tally, by our standard). So, it's not all doom and gloom. As fans, we can only hope though. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: Profoundly disagree- there are hundreds of hockey clubs in the communities and universities with astro turfs everywhere in UK. Same with Germany. They have a better sporting culture than us We are at best 8/9th best in the world when it comes to consistent results. winning some fluke games against 2nd string Dutch/Belgium/Aus sides in the Pro League doesnt mean jack shite Lack of sports culture. No astro at domestics. Regional and punjabi bias. How can you win like that? How da FAQ do we not have astro at domestics?, ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Disgusting loss to fkn kiwis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Fukn india. Such a disgrace. Left a sour taste in my mouth. I don't even want to watch bgt now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 26 minutes ago, speedracer said: Lack of sports culture. No astro at domestics. Regional and punjabi bias. How can you win like that? How da FAQ do we not have astro at domestics?, ffs As i said before, Hockey in Europe pays peanuts for most players, YET their club scene has great players who work part time as well AND win Gold medals and World cups, same with Australia. These sports are not even watched by most people in the country- they play this for a hobby and still wipe the floors with India.. who use this as a way of securing a job and some regional fame. No wonder our cupboards are bare and the money is only spent in infrastructure. Like punjab has probs 3/4 times the players than Odisha at grassroots so there should be astroturfs in every district of the state but its not the case and coaches cannot teach modern fast hockey on grass-- how the hell are we going to compete at international level. speedracer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 30 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: As i said before, Hockey in Europe pays peanuts for most players, YET their club scene has great players who work part time as well AND win Gold medals and World cups, same with Australia. These sports are not even watched by most people in the country- they play this for a hobby and still wipe the floors with India.. who use this as a way of securing a job and some regional fame. No wonder our cupboards are bare and the money is only spent in infrastructure. Like punjab has probs 3/4 times the players than Odisha at grassroots so there should be astroturfs in every district of the state but its not the case and coaches cannot teach modern fast hockey on grass-- how the hell are we going to compete at international level. Can't compare aus man. I live here. Good athletes get sponsorships and get promoted to AIS. University pays for funding etc. They get to do part time courses. There are athlete based scholarship programs etc. India don't have that sort of funding to promote athletes. Not yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 32 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: As i said before, Hockey in Europe pays peanuts for most players, YET their club scene has great players who work part time as well AND win Gold medals and World cups, same with Australia. These sports are not even watched by most people in the country- they play this for a hobby and still wipe the floors with India.. who use this as a way of securing a job and some regional fame. No wonder our cupboards are bare and the money is only spent in infrastructure. Like punjab has probs 3/4 times the players than Odisha at grassroots so there should be astroturfs in every district of the state but its not the case and coaches cannot teach modern fast hockey on grass-- how the hell are we going to compete at international level. Sad deplorable state. How da FAQ is Argentina affording astros in their uni games and district level tournaments yet we can't. Disgraceful. We don't have the sports culture, support and appropriate athelete based programs via university campuses and district tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 33 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: As i said before, Hockey in Europe pays peanuts for most players, YET their club scene has great players who work part time as well AND win Gold medals and World cups, same with Australia. These sports are not even watched by most people in the country- they play this for a hobby and still wipe the floors with India.. who use this as a way of securing a job and some regional fame. No wonder our cupboards are bare and the money is only spent in infrastructure. Like punjab has probs 3/4 times the players than Odisha at grassroots so there should be astroturfs in every district of the state but its not the case and coaches cannot teach modern fast hockey on grass-- how the hell are we going to compete at international level. And honestly I am so pissed off we lost to fkn kiwis. I don't fkn care about bgt anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 15 hours ago, Khota said: That can be blamed on the culture. Look at Rohit, he has put on weight. Not one football player in your premier league looks so pathetic as he does. This is Hockey, this is sport we were supposed to dominate with our skill once we added fitness. This is land of Dhyan Chand, Mohd Shahid who dazzeled opponents with their stickwork .Once India had enough Astroturfs and improved fitness they were supposed to be dynamite team. But all we saw is players who were neither this nor that.It was horrible display from Indian team. Edited January 23 by putrevus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: This is Hockey, this is sport we were supposed to dominate with out skill once we add fitness. This is land of Dhyan Chand, Mohd Shahid who dazzeled opponents with their stickwork .Once India had enough Astroturfs and improved fitness they were supposed to be dynamite team. But all we saw is players who were neither this nor that.It was horrible display from Indian team. We actually do t have astros in domestic though which is even more pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, putrevus said: This is Hockey, this is sport we were supposed to dominate with out skill once we add fitness. This is land of Dhyan Chand, Mohd Shahid who dazzeled opponents with their stickwork .Once India had enough Astroturfs and improved fitness they were supposed to be dynamite team. But all we saw is players who were neither this nor that.It was horrible display from Indian team. we only have astros in big cities and stadiums with odd astros dotted around. As most of the player demographics is from the rural side, im sure there isnt the availability of astros so kids start of their hockey journey on grass.. how is this ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, putrevus said: This is Hockey, this is sport we were supposed to dominate with our skill once we added fitness. This is land of Dhyan Chand, Mohd Shahid who dazzeled opponents with their stickwork .Once India had enough Astroturfs and improved fitness they were supposed to be dynamite team. But all we saw is players who were neither this nor that.It was horrible display from Indian team. You only dominate if you have speed. India does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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