Gollum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 We dominated NZ in that game, were the much better side, still lost, happens. Like Brazil vs Croatia in the recent FIFA QF. But our overall performance after the Spain and England games was worrying. No team is going to go deep with a 10% PC conversion, that sealed our fate. Too much dependence on the skipper, other PC takers not sufficiently groomed. Fitness too was bad and played like old India in dying stages, despite circle penetrations we didn't have any clear plan, nerves as well. We actually played brilliantly in Tokyo, crushing Arg, Esp, NZ, Jap, GBR, controlling Bel until that Manpreet yellow card (umpiring fraud), beating Ger in bronze playoff. Here even if we had beaten NZ, the path ahead was insurmountable with Bel/Aus in QF/SF. We didn't play anywhere near the level to challenge those sides this time. Sreejesh has a worthy successor in Krishan Pathak, that's the main positive from this tourney. Thank you to Odisha govt for making this happen, pity our team didn't do well. Back to the drawing board again, Asian Games this year, Olympics next year. No time to sit and cry. Frustrated and rollingstoned 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Penalty shootout is so random. Korea beating Argentina was a bigger upset than NZ beating India tbh., the way Arg scared Aussies, I thought they would be dark horses These things happen in sports, Indian fans should have patience, no sporting revolution happens overnight. Give it a decade or two, just continue the backing. If we can support our cricket team after 10 years of ICC screw ups that too against jokes like Pakistan and Lanka, surely our other sportspersons should get some leeway. rollingstoned, Number and Suhaan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Belgium without Hendrickx is there for the taking. Aussies have become chokers in KOs recently but on paper they are better than Belgium. Dutch are looking ominous as well. Btw how big a miss was Hardik for us!!! The first two games, he was playing at another level, very unfortunate injury. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) On 1/23/2023 at 9:30 AM, LordPrabhzy said: Its like saying kids who grow up playing cricket on bouncy pitches somehow have the skills to play on spinning tracks.. Hockey isn't like Tennis or Cricket which has different types of surfaces in game to allow for different styles of players.. hockey is a one surface type sport which need the skills to play on that surface throughout your journey as a player- you cant just transition overnight to another surface and have the same speed and ball control and power. Its impossible hence the conclusion is we wont ever be competitive seriously at international hockey to challenge Europeans You are still not getting the point, When large percentage of population is not having enough to eat, you want govt to spend money on astro turfs. The only option left is Indian hockey becoming self sufficient with their own funds and spread the game to grass roots level. That is not the case now , so only option left is groom the talented players who are junior level and hope they transition from grass to turf. Edited January 24, 2023 by putrevus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Bel-NZ game was so pathetic. NZ never even tried to win, whole game was played in their half. India would have made a far more exciting game, even in our heavy losses against the top dogs we manage to give them plenty of scares. This parking the bus in own half and hoping to minimize margin of defeat is the trait of losers. Mohun Bagan, Mohmd Sporting did that a couple of times in friendlies against European giants like Bayern Munich. Same mentality on display today. This 0-2 defeat only looks good on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Bel missing its best player so much. Finally a chance for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, putrevus said: You are still not getting the point, When large percentage of population is not having enough to eat, you want govt to spend money on astro turfs. The only option left is Indian hockey becoming self sufficient with their own funds and spread the game to grass roots level. That is not the case now , so only option left is groom the talented players who are junior level and hope they transition from grass to turf. LOL and where will will the funds come from? TV rights? not really.. Sponsors? Not much more than right now.. spectators? the way they are playing they wont have any interest outside Odisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: LOL and where will will the funds come from? TV rights? not really.. Sponsors? Not much more than right now.. spectators? the way they are playing they wont have any interest outside Odisha Lol it is very simple. if the funds don't come , the only way is players will get to play on turfs only after reaching certain level.You cannot blame govt or IHF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Eng-Ger QF should be good match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 England 2-0. Q3 in progress. England seem the most improved team in last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Number said: Eng-Ger QF should be good match. England have come leaps and bounds as a side- leading Germany 2-0 Number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: England have come leaps and bounds as a side- leading Germany 2-0 Their coach said it is Bazball effect. Edited January 25, 2023 by Number sage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: England have come leaps and bounds as a side- leading Germany 2-0 If England go all the way then we shouldn't feel too bad about our result. We held them for a draw although we can could have won that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Wow England blew away their lead in last 150 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 If England choke in penalty shootout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingstoned Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Apart from ned every other fancied team has stumbled and had moments when they could have crashed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 Final Netherlands 5- 1- Korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: Final Netherlands 5- 1- Korea Ned Aus Belgium Germany All the best teams in semis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 India still cannot score against Japan 3PC and all misses meanwhile other teams put 7/8 goals past these minnow nations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustrated Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Can't blame the Indian fans for not bothering to watch the hockey games, if our team is this s**t. It might sound harsh, but that's the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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