1st Test Nagpur, February 09 - 13, 2023, Australia tour of India - PREMATCH

[wanted_desi]

Quote

"Speaking about Gill and Surya, they obviously bring different things to the table for us. Gill obviously has been in supreme form in the last three to four months, a lot of hundreds, big hundreds as well. And on the other hand, Surya has shown in T20 cricket what he's capable of and what sort of game he can bring to Test cricket as well. So both are quality options for us. "

 

I have heard people mixing up T20 with ODIs, but T20 with Test Cricket makes you sounds like an idiot. 

 

If SKY plays, we will have 4 underserving batsman in the line up out of 5. Might as well give trophy to Australia in that case. 

[putrevus]

31 minutes ago, Lord said:

it was always like this. Teams start whining moment they land here

To be fair Aussies give fair pitches when India travel there. I don't think we should do what we did against England that will back fire on us. Their batting is more adapt in playing spinners than our batsman.

[sandeep]

3 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

To be clear, it's their media, ex cricketers and fans who are whining. Their cricketers haven't uttered a word yet. They look dead serious about winning this series. 

Their cricketers know how to manage PR - their whining about the pitch is on full display when they lost their home series to India - Langer, and entire Aus pace bowling unit is shown whining in the Amazon documentary series - the narrative is not that Pujara bested the Australian bowling unit with his discipline and batting - its that the wickets in Australia, prepared by Australian cricket board employees were somehow overly "subcontinental" and "didn't give a chance to Aussie bowlers", who tirelessly toiled against the odds and went down fighting. 

 

Just because Cummins or Smith hasn't said something outright stupid as an on-the-record quote, does  not mean that they aren't whining. 

[R!TTER]

Why are you surprised, this TM (basically drunken Master & Brat) played Kuldeep & Ashwin on the greenest deck at Lord's that I've seen in a lifetime & played 4 WK's at 2019 WC semis - this would be par for course with them 

 

Oh did I mention he announced the team just a day before the WTC final & didn't change it even when the first day was washed out 

Edited February 8 by R!TTER

[sandeep]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

To be fair Aussies give fair pitches when India travel there. I don't think we should do what we did against England that will back fire on us. Their batting is more adapt in playing spinners than our batsman.

 

Indian team at this point is strong enough to win across multiple conditions - the extra turn friendly tracks are there to manage the scenario where a touring team wins the toss and piles up 500 in the 1st innings.  That's really the only way for touring teams to have a chance to win - if they get to bat on a flat track, put up scoreboard pressure and the currently frail Indian batting unit crumbles in the 1st dig - then game over for India.  

 

That's why the emphasis on turn, to ensure that losing the toss doesn't jack the odds against India too badly.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

 

I have heard people mixing up T20 with ODIs, but T20 with Test Cricket makes you sounds like an idiot. 

 

If SKY plays, we will have 4 underserving batsman in the line up out of 5. Might as well give trophy to Australia in that case. 

David Warner has become of one of greatest test openers in Australian history.He was at20 only player.

 

So graduating to test cricket from t20s for a batsman like SKY should not not that big deal.The one team SKY can play attacking cricket in test against is Australia, they always play to win so they will always have attacking fields.

 

Will he succeed is yet to be seen but I would not say it is wrong selection.

[Nikola]

Think we should win this series 2-1 or 3-1.

Edited February 8 by Nikola

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, sandeep said:

 

Indian team at this point is strong enough to win across multiple conditions - the extra turn friendly tracks are there to manage the scenario where a touring team wins the toss and piles up 500 in the 1st innings.  That's really the only way for touring teams to have a chance to win - if they get to bat on a flat track, put up scoreboard pressure and the currently frail Indian batting unit crumbles in the 1st dig - then game over for India.  

 

That's why the emphasis on turn, to ensure that losing the toss doesn't jack the odds against India too badly.

If Indian team is strong enough to win across multiple conditions then it should be able to back their bowlers with good enough score if they bowl first on a flat deck.

 

While I understand your point on having turning tracks to negate the toss but it can backfire too like Pune 2017.

 

The only team I want to have fair pitches is against Aussies.To me that will get the best of both teams and let the better team win the series.That does not mean we roll out flat pitches but let us not play on Bunsen burners.

 

 

[sandeep]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

If Indian team is strong enough to win across multiple conditions then it should be able to back their bowlers with good enough score if they bowl first on a flat deck.

 

While I understand your point on having turning tracks to negate the toss but it can backfire too like Pune 2017.

 

The only team I want to have fair pitches is against Aussies.To me that will get the best of both teams and let the better team win the series.That does not mean we roll out flat pitches but let us not play on Bunsen burners.

 

 

yeah, I am not in favor of Pune type crazy pitches - that only reduces the game to a lottery and makes it easier for lesser skilled touring teams to pull off upsets.

[Moochad]

Australia looks like they will have at least 4, up to 5 left handers in the batting side. Ashwin is licking his chops

[Moochad]

 

[Number]

I believe this selective watering thing was pure mind game.

There were reports that Unadkat was practising batting against fast bowling whole day. I won't be surprised if we see a pacey pitch with 3 seamers in our side.

[Number]

As per reports

KL-Rohit will open.

Surya will get debut.

Gill to miss out.

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, Number said:

As per reports

KL-Rohit will open.

Surya will get debut.

Gill to miss out.

:wtf: 

[Nikola]

[cowboysfan]

25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

:wtf: 

this was predicted long time ago.

[Nash]

If I am not wrong then this will be the last BGT ? are they permanently closing these tours or it will be less in future but with different name.

[BacktoCricaddict]

5 hours ago, gattaca said:

Ravi shastri is saying Gill should get Rahul’s place considering form. Man he was always ridiculed but he makes sense most of the times.

RJS was seriously under-rated.  BGT 2020-21 was proof of that, IMO. 

[R!TTER]

Last with 4 test per series, because apparently Oz figured out, just like Eng, that 1 (more) test with India is worth 2-3 as compared to other minnows! They're just looking to milk the Indian market & I guess will also have to play 5 tests in return over here as well. It will be a bad thing IMO because 5 test series can really be a drag, if the away team loses the first 1-2 in a row then such series will generally be totally one sided 

[SRT100]

9 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

Actually, the fact that Aussie pitches are by far the worst when it comes to aiding spinners, I would say they are the most unfair for the Indian bowlers atleast. 

 

It's just that because our Batsmen play pace & bounce relatively well but can't play swing & seam to save their lives, you get the impression that they provide fair pitches. 

 

Correct. Kumble, Murali, etc etc world class champions have all struggled to be a dominating force in Australia.