Hindenburg group accuses Adani group of fraud

[kepler37b]

1 hour ago, BlueBlood said:

 

Name and reputation is earned not handed to them.

 

Look at Tata not a single person even blatant haters can point to any wrong doing. 

 

Even Bajaj recently with their IPO showed how much brand value matters.

 

Adani has only himself to blame as other than brainwashed bots who religiously support him, not a single reputable analyst even bothers tracking his stocks. Yet, instead of building his name through specializing in ports and things like data centers he wanted to muscle his way through electricity, airports, edible oil and anything he could get his hands in through unethical and immoral means.

 

The chickens are coming home to roost. 

 

I have been saying this forever. Now Adani will get ZERO FDI. He will get uncle Modi to talk to Trump to drop the charges and uncle Trump will play Modi like a fiddle by imposing tariffs on IT, pharma and other critical industries and making the H1B program hell in return. This was bound to happen and to save one corrupt man, India will be thrown under the bus as usual.

10 years of BJP has produced a new breed of 80 IQ pseudo-nationalists. The one that denies the social reality and thinks that we have already arrived.  The one that counters every genuine criticism of india with following rants :-

 

"You are blackpillar saar"

"You are agent of Soros saar"

"You are aunty-nashunal saar"

[Vicks57]

7 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

10 years of BJP has produced a new breed of 80 IQ pseudo-nationalists. The one that denies the social reality and thinks that we have already arrived.  The one that counters every genuine criticism of india with following rants :-

 

"You are blackpillar saar"

"You are agent of Soros saar"

"You are aunty-nashunal saar"

 

Criticising Adani is now "anti national" as well.

 

Morons of the highest order.

 

[R!TTER]

5 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

The fact that you don't even know what you are talking out of your ass is the critical problem I am mentioning.

 

Nvidia GPU's are not a fad ya putz. If you read even a little you know they power ChatGPT, OpenAi, Anthropic, Tesla Autonomous computer vision based self driving models etc.

 

The fact you don't even know this and commend Ambani getting this contract over so many other actual players in India with real knowledge of data centers and how to operate them shows why India will lag China and even Europe in AI let alone US. You give bids to the best and most knowledgeable people not to the best buddy of the PM.

 

Now, in regards to Nvidia selling to China, again you don't know crap. I work in the industry, Nvidia doesn't sell H100, H200 and B200 their latest Gen GPU's to China. They sell watered down versions to China which are not as powerful as what they sell within US, Europe etc.

 

But ironically the biggest frauds that caught breaking sanctions and selling to China and Russia are Indian IT firms who as usual have no ethics or morals. Other big one doing this is Malaysian and Indonesian firms.

 

Now, your God Adani and Ambani to a smaller extent will ruin the country as they want their hands on every industry with zero knowledge to innovate further. What that means is simply trying to get heart surgery from a neurosurgeon, he might know the basics but will kill you.

 

The only exports India does is generic drugs (that flaut US IP) and body shops exporting labour. None of these are high margin or high growth sectors long term. Even Apple hasn't made much progress in manufacturing iPhones in India as Modi wanted as India has no tooling engineers and no hardware base. All a farce where Apple will have Chinese managers assemble iPhones in India to appease the brainwashed.

I said "AI" is a fad, Mr. Smarty Pants—it is without a shadow of a doubt right now, and as far as AI is concerned, pretty much every major company is developing their own "IP" to make it work inhouse! You know why, because Nvidia is ripping them off.

The heck are you talking about? Don't know what? A lot of companies operate DC for their own "cloud" services and even in terms of cloud, there's only 4-5 big names you need to remember who do it at scale for other customers; Ambani is not even in the top 20 globally when it comes to that—they are for all intents & purposes irrelvant right now!

And do you know how they are "watered" down? Your laziness knows no bounds; you may be working in the industry, but it looks like you have zero knowledge of the hardware itself!

Frauds in what sense? Financials like Adani or something else?

I don't pray to a god & haven't done that in 25+ years, but maybe you should start praying to the Goddess of knowledge to make you a bit better at this.

India exports a lot of goods & services, but that doesn't mean that the vast majority of those exports are from Indian firms! If that was your intention, maybe you were right, but China does the same—who do you think exports the most out of China? US companies: Apple, Intel, QC, AMD, Nvidia, Broadcomm, TI, Micron, Tesla, Cargill et al. The "value add" from China is minimal in most of their products & again one of the major reasons why they're going almost completely detached from the West, especially internally.

 

 

This is for your typical Xiaomi phone from a couple of years back, in this QC sells the modem (baseband) separately. SD elite IIRC is the first(?) 5G integrated SoC they're making.

[velu]

2 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Criticising Adani is now "anti national" as well.

 

Morons of the highest order.

 

 

 

It may sound idiotic to you , but its something like

 

Myself vs my brother ,

Myself and my brother vs my cousin 

Myself , my brother , cousin vs the world 

 

I think you are still living with 1960s DK/DMK propoganda , only thing changed is Brahim with gujjus , congress with BJP

 

Bro I got a beach in Chennai next to kalaignar memorial which I would like to sell to potential buyers like you

[Vicks57]

14 minutes ago, velu said:

 

 

It may sound idiotic to you , but its something like

 

Myself vs my brother ,

Myself and my brother vs my cousin 

Myself , my brother , cousin vs the world 

 

I think you are still living with 1960s DK/DMK propoganda , only thing changed is Brahim with gujjus , congress with BJP

 

Bro I got a beach in Chennai next to kalaignar memorial which I would like to sell to potential buyers like you

 

I am not even a DMK supporter. Yet I look like one in this forum.

 

That's how right wing this forum is.

 

Adani is doing stock market manipulation and moron is bringing down the reputation of Indians businesses across different countries like Kenya and Australia.

[mishra]

4 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

None of it is baseless. All accused ministers got money.

 

Adani funds BJP's coffers. Adani was present in meetings hosted by

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/adani-hosted-2019-talks-but-he-wasnt-part-of-it-sharad-pawar/articleshow/115312066.cms

 

 

 

Re read my previous comment. The three CMs as per allegations are Reddy, stalin and  Patnaik all are NOT BJP as u are trying to infer too.

 

They denied it. Its just another allegation. Case over

 

However most Indians including media are grade idiots who are automatically giving their sovereignity to US and not asking did US authorities prove the Corruption case in Indian Court.

 

Tommorrow someone can lodge a case of corruption against Trump in India , Nigeria or Madgascar. Does it mean Trump will defend it in those countries. There is something called “jurisdiction “. People like you are slaves for life 

Edited November 23, 2024 by mishra

[Vicks57]

1 minute ago, mishra said:

Re read my previous comment. The three CMs as per allegations are Reddy, stalin and  Patnaik all are NOT BJP as u are trying to infer too.

 

However most Indians including media are grade idiots who are automatically giving their sovereignity to US and not asking did US authorities prove the Corruption case in Indian Court.

 

Tommorrow someone can lodge a case of corruption against Trump in India , Nigeria or Madgascar. Does it mean Trump will defend it in those countries. People like you are slaves for life 

 

 

Lol No one in India is asking Adani to be extradited.

 

But Adani needs to be fined heavily for his stock market manipulation using shell companies and jailed appropriately in India.

 

Adani usually doesn't create business. He just buys other existing businesses.

 

How are you even defending him using shell companies to pass off as institutional investment is beyond me?

 

[Vicks57]

8 minutes ago, mishra said:

Re read my previous comment. The three CMs as per allegations are Reddy, stalin and  Patnaik all are NOT BJP as u are trying to infer too.

 

They denied it. Its just another allegation. Case over

 

However most Indians including media are grade idiots who are automatically giving their sovereignity to US and not asking did US authorities prove the Corruption case in Indian Court.

 

Tommorrow someone can lodge a case of corruption against Trump in India , Nigeria or Madgascar. Does it mean Trump will defend it in those countries. There is something called “jurisdiction “. People like you are slaves for life 

 

Launch an investigation into all 3 CM.  Start it. We already know all 3 are guilty on varying degrees. Just like we knew Jaya was corrupt even before the conviction.

 

After all, Jayalalitha was jailed on corruption charge. 

 

Edited November 23, 2024 by Vicks57

[mishra]

^ Why , because US says so. Most likely it was just an attempt by CCP to get Adani out of Kenya and Australia. Kenya done. Australia being democracy requires bigger push. 
 

Even if we assume all politicians are guilty, still it has to be prosecuted in court of law. As per details available so far, there is nothing to even file a case against Redfy or Stalin or Patanaik. 
 

Again, Ask the right question. What jurisdiction US has to say all these 3 CMs and Adani is corrupt?

Edited November 23, 2024 by mishra

[velu]

3 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

I am not even a DMK supporter. Yet I look like one in this forum.

 

That's how right wing this forum is.

 

Adani is doing stock market manipulation and moron is bringing down the reputation of Indians businesses across different countries like Kenya and Australia.

 

Lol

Can you name few foreign business houses or companies with good reputation ? 

[Vicks57]

51 minutes ago, velu said:

 

Lol

Can you name few foreign business houses or companies with good reputation ? 

 

So you agree that Adani is doing stock market manipulation using shell companies.

 

Which other posters here refuse to accept.

 

Good old whataboutism.

 

 

Edited November 23, 2024 by Vicks57

[R!TTER]

Did you really compare "market cap" with actual real economies & you think you're smart, maybe you were born after 2008 that's why  

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, BlueBlood said:

Just ONE US company. That's the power of AI. It's not a fad. 

Oh shut the * up you don't even know what part of Grace Hopper or Blackwell is "AI" & you're talking big like a know it all.

[velu]

3 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

So you agree that Adani is doing stock market manipulation using shell companies.

 

Which other posters here refuse to accept.

 

Good old whataboutism.

 

 

 

i said everyone is corrupt including your DMK marans  ..

 

but you are yet to give some clean firangi company who follow ethics and have good reputation 

 

[randomGuy]

4 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

And to all you fools who think India is "detached" from the West and can sustain internally. 

 

Your tribal behavior is exactly the issue. Even China the example you keep citing got hurt bad when they made FDI difficult by jailing Jack MA from AliBaba and tried to make it hard for US companies to take their profits out of China.

 

China's economy now is in shambles and no matter how much stimulus they are trying is not working as FDI is critical. 

 

This is why Adani got caught. He wants US investor money but wants to run his companies with corruption and bribery.

 

Ask Adani to survive with just Indian investors and his stock will be worth 10%

 

To crash the Indian market over night all Trump has to do is put 10% tariff on IT, Pharma and BPO sector and the whole country will go down. That's how reliant India is on US let alone the West.

 

It's sad I have to make this argument with tribal behavior fools who will support the destruction of the country and their own self interests to protect a corrupt businessman.

1. He is not in business of defaulting. He returns the money on time with interest.

 

2. China has demographic issues due to one-child policy... with or without FDI, it is destined to contract.

 

3. Indian bond market doesn't have fdi,fii - reason for India's macro stability. Equity market as well, the domestic money n Indian money routed via foreign lands is increasingly the major investor....Foreign reserves more than the foreign currency debt...

 

4. India is majorly independent of the west. This bugs them the most. 

 

5. But one feature of India is the few average IQ Indians like yourself who think highly of themselves (and the west) but actually quite wrong on several issues.

[kepler37b]

4 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

 I don't want to waste my time arguing with an idiot who thinks AI is a fad and not willing to admit lack of knowledge from someone who's actually working in the machine learning and computer vision field.

 

Go worship your God Adani while he and his ilk plundering the country through monopolistic behavior is the reason you left India in the first place and living as NRI talking about Indian issues.

 

Go and work for an Adani company if you so love him. You are the type of hypocrites who don't want to work for a desi boss in the US due to abuse but support even more extreme type of behavior in India as it's easy to speak living far away from consequences of monopolistic behavior.

 

India could have been a leader in AI but once you bring in someone like Ambani into it who has no experience or skill in managing it, you give all the power back to US and Chinese companies again. You still have slavery mentality where just to support your tribe you will discount all types of logic.

There is one more messiah of nashunalists, Bhavish Brat Agarwal, working on so called "Krutrim". He will  make us the leader in AI.

[R!TTER]

This guy's a self-professed "AI" professional who's done jack all and explaining GPUs to someone who's doing RTL designs  

If irony had a twin, this guy would be it's long-lost brother

 

And yes "AI" is a fad just like crypto!

Edited November 23, 2024 by R!TTER

[mishra]

4 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

TATA is clean as it gets.

 

Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffet as clean as it gets.

 

Now tell me why Adani gets all projects above Tata, Bajaj and other industrialists?

Really? Warren Buffet is clean?

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Really? Warren Buffet is clean?

George Soros is a gem of a person 

[velu]

8 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

TATA is clean as it gets.

 

Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffet as clean as it gets.

 

Now tell me why Adani gets all projects above Tata, Bajaj and other industrialists?

Ever heard radia tapes ?

Do you know they started as opium traders ?

 

BH is merely investment company who puts money on other companies .

 

Bajaj and Tatas are not in ports if I am not wrong