R!TTER Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 hours ago, MechEng said: The mines are located in Jammu area, so it's relatively better. Kashmir valley or Ladakh mein hota then China and Pakistan would have made life extremely difficult for us. Jokes apart, what I am actually concerned about is our relationship with the US. Amreeka fought 20 year war in Afghanistan for gaining control over lithium mines there and could not win, wonder how things will span out now... There are already alternatives out there, in fact Li(ion) could well lose out to more chemically stable/cheaper & higher (energy) density alternatives! https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/03/26/the-weekend-read-sodium-ion-batteries-go-mainstream/ 12 minutes ago, Khota said: EV's are 10 years away. It is a technology India can invest in since missing the complete IC engine revolution. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Khota said: EV's are 10 years away. It is a technology India can invest in since missing the complete IC engine revolution. Say what ! Do you follow latest trend on automobile market in India ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 So for my understanding. Does 5.9 MT meets India’s requirements completely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Say what ! Do you follow latest trend on automobile market in India ? I do. I live that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Khota said: I do. I live that stuff. ok cool. https://www.autocarpro.in/analysis-sales/ev-sales-in-india-in-2022-record-210-growth-cross-a-million-for-the-first-time-113710 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Jai Mata di... This is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, ravishingravi said: ok cool. https://www.autocarpro.in/analysis-sales/ev-sales-in-india-in-2022-record-210-growth-cross-a-million-for-the-first-time-113710 Still under 3% for total market share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM2907 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 9 hours ago, MechEng said: The mines are located in Jammu area, so it's relatively better. Kashmir valley or Ladakh mein hota then China and Pakistan would have made life extremely difficult for us. Jokes apart, what I am actually concerned about is our relationship with the US. Amreeka fought 20 year war in Afghanistan for gaining control over lithium mines there and could not win, wonder how things will span out now... If America enters J&K - India , Pak and China can forget that land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 21 hours ago, ravishingravi said: So for my understanding. Does 5.9 MT meets India’s requirements completely ? india is 1,4 billion people developing very quickly. Nothing will meet our energy requirements. I am guestimating but this is like "may meet our reserve requirement", just in case ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 To maximise the potential of this discovery we will need to put in place the value chain from 1. Mining 2. Refining 3. Fabrication for end-use 4. Deployment in finished goods. The challenge here is that after steps 1 through 3 the product needs to be lower in cost that the landing cost of the same goods from China. And China essentially operates with slave-wages throughout the chain. So either we make it cheaper or we add import taxes for lithium-based products to make indigenously produced lithium goods competitive for EV makers, solar energy and battery companies. And meanwhile China will be doing its best to encourage India to export the lithium in raw material form to it. Mariyam, Under_Score and ravishingravi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM2907 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 7:18 PM, Khota said: I do. I live that stuff. You are then wrong on your stuff. EV are note more than 3 - 4 years away in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 19 hours ago, mishra said: india is 1,4 billion people developing very quickly. Nothing will meet our energy requirements. I am guestimating but this is like "may meet our reserve requirement", just in case From the wiki page, on known Li reserves, we can make about 10-11 billion Tesla (S) obviously depending on range. The reserves in J&K will do us good for quite a few decades to come, the real challenge would be minimizing the environmental impact. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) On 2/12/2023 at 7:18 PM, Khota said: I do. I live that stuff. got you there Edited February 14, 2023 by velu Mariyam, dial_100, mishra and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 hours ago, velu said: got you there That's me. velu, coffee_rules and dial_100 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 10 hours ago, Prakat said: To maximise the potential of this discovery we will need to put in place the value chain from 1. Mining 2. Refining 3. Fabrication for end-use 4. Deployment in finished goods. The challenge here is that after steps 1 through 3 the product needs to be lower in cost that the landing cost of the same goods from China. And China essentially operates with slave-wages throughout the chain. So either we make it cheaper or we add import taxes for lithium-based products to make indigenously produced lithium goods competitive for EV makers, solar energy and battery companies. And meanwhile China will be doing its best to encourage India to export the lithium in raw material form to it. Any idea of how strategic is the Aksai-Chin region occupied by China wrt to mineral reserves ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakdephatte Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Lithium reserves were discovered there way back in 1996. Don't know why everyone ignored it for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, diga said: Any idea of how strategic is the Aksai-Chin region occupied by China wrt to mineral reserves ? The cost of extraction from elevated inhospitable terrain and transportation via the mountains back to the processing centres will make any mineral resources discovered there prohibitively expensive. China is usually happy to acquire and ship raw materials from high grade sources anywhere in the world as long as the cost of extraction is low - as they do in many parts in Africa, Balochistan etc. Under_Score, dial_100, diga and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 10:51 PM, SM2907 said: If America enters J&K - India , Pak and China can forget that land. I remember some news about rare earth material find in Afghanistan https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/24/mapping-afghanistans-untapped-natural-resources-interactive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 14 hours ago, diga said: Any idea of how strategic is the Aksai-Chin region occupied by China wrt to mineral reserves ? Only Missile silos & G219 highway connecting Tibet to Xinjiang there. That highway was the root cause of 1962 war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Only Missile silos & G219 highway connecting Tibet to Xinjiang there. That highway was the root cause of 1962 war. Are there any mineral reserves that China covets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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