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ENG vs NZ | 1st Test | Bay Oval | Feb 16 - 20, 2023 | Match Thread


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18 minutes ago, speedracer said:

Milne is trash in tests. 

Henry is a cannon fodder outside swing conditions. 

 

Omly Indian fodder batsmen who csnt play swing struggle vs these dud fodder cans.

Tickner in his debut test today removed Duckett before Lunch but yes his economy worst 

 

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9 minutes ago, putrevus said:

It is really surprising that Harry Brooks's FC avg is just 38.He has played over 60 FC games , so sample size is big enough to make judgement.He was wonderful yesterday too, he should have scored his fourth 100.

He has been talked up of as the English Kohli for a long time in the circuit. Coaches and ECB rate him very highly in terms of potential so gave him a long rope

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14 minutes ago, putrevus said:

It is really surprising that Harry Brooks's FC avg is just 38.He has played over 60 FC games , so sample size is big enough to make judgement.He was wonderful yesterday too, he should have scored his fourth 100.

I am not sure if even prime kohli would average more than 40 in England given the conditions. 

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15 minutes ago, putrevus said:

It is really surprising that Harry Brooks's FC avg is just 38.He has played over 60 FC games , so sample size is big enough to make judgement.He was wonderful yesterday too, he should have scored his fourth 100.

Some players play at another level in Internationals like Warner.Some on the other hand are brilliant in domestics and leagues and absolute duds at international level. 

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36 minutes ago, putrevus said:

It is really surprising that Harry Brooks's FC avg is just 38.He has played over 60 FC games , so sample size is big enough to make judgement.He was wonderful yesterday too, he should have scored his fourth 100.

For a gifted stroke maker these are good numbers in swinging conditions. 

Brook can be really dangerous on batter friendly tracks or places where you get true bounce like SA Aus. 

 

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4 hours ago, nitinbwj said:

NZ playing like the cowards and pussies that they are BUT always play like champions against us :facepalm::wall:

And Biatch of Pak in WC's

 

Can't believe we lose to their shitty team in ICC tournaments :wall:

 

But this is not their top bowling line up. Two guys make debut today. Southee past by sell date. Wagner is not a new ball bowler. 

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52 minutes ago, putrevus said:

It is really surprising that Harry Brooks's FC avg is just 38.He has played over 60 FC games , so sample size is big enough to make judgement.He was wonderful yesterday too, he should have scored his fourth 100.

 

Don't look at this overall career. Look at his most recent first class performances. It is staggering. Him and Duckett's. He was not a T20 product. Came through ranks properly.

 

2022 county stats Averages 107 @75. If he were to be playing for INdia he will be waiting for Pujara to retire

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=14444;type=tournament

 

 

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59 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Some players play at another level in Internationals like Warner.Some on the other hand are brilliant in domestics and leagues and absolute duds at international level. 

He sure looks like a dynamic player. He looks so composed and has all the shots in the book and is so pleasing to watch.

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29 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Don't look at this overall career. Look at his most recent first class performances. It is staggering. Him and Duckett's. He was not a T20 product. Came through ranks properly.

 

2022 county stats Averages 107 @75. If he were to be playing for INdia he will be waiting for Pujara to retire

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=14444;type=tournament

 

 

You need to give it a rest on whinging about Pujara and Kohli. This is the same England team still playing 100 year old Anderson and Broad. They had to give Brook a chance once Johny got injured and Brook has not looked back.Ducket has been called back in side after a long time too.

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1 hour ago, putrevus said:

You need to give it a rest on whinging about Pujara and Kohli. This is the same England team still playing 100 year old Anderson and Broad. They had to give Brook a chance once Johny got injured and Brook has not looked back.Ducket has been called back in side after a long time too.

 

You really think England will persist with Anderson if he sucks for 3 years?

Performance of Pujara/Kohli have been on the decline for a long time. We shouldn't get  fooled by random 50s somewhere. They hold the key position in the batting order. 3 and 4.  Moment viv richards started waning in reflex he dropped himself down the order. Atleast Pujara played some B grade first class game in England. Kohli didn't even do that.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

England's seam attack more impressive than their batting. Got loads of seam movement where NZ barely got any. 

Anderson seems to be getting better with age.   Owning sides in subcontinent as well.  Too accurate & if he gets helping conditions,  near unplayable

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4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Anderson seems to be getting better with age.   Owning sides in subcontinent as well.  Too accurate & if he gets helping conditions,  near unplayable

Yeah. Anderson, Broad and Ollie together form a very accurate trio.  Decent pace, release height, movement and accuracy.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yeah. Anderson, Broad and Ollie together form a very accurate trio.  Decent pace, release height, movement and accuracy.

 

 

 

6 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Anderson seems to be getting better with age.   Owning sides in subcontinent as well.  Too accurate & if he gets helping conditions,  near unplayable

 

6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yeah. Anderson, Broad and Ollie together form a very accurate trio.  Decent pace, release height, movement and accuracy.

 

 

Problem is when ball gets old they will get whipped hard. They are poor flat pitch bowlers. All of them. Wood is decent in flat wickets.

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