jf1gp_1 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 even broken clock is right twice a day Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 hours ago, nevada said: Another orange cap at 118.88 strike rate coming up! And Mahakavi Gavaskar composing poems,songs adorned with towering metaphors nevada, Mosher, deepdynamo and 1 other 4 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 17 hours ago, Lord said: He gets centuries but is followed by string of low scores. Still better than Pujara and maybe even Kohli currently as long as he bats in middle. I get the criticism he gets in T20s, but as a test opener he's done alright. It's extremely difficult to be consistent as a test opener especially for some one who plays all the formats. He could still be averaging around 42-43 , but somehow dosent score big in SC and he's also missed out a lot of home series in the past. Shubman is a good bat, but if he opens his SENA average will be in 20s and on the other hand KL if he bats in the middle order he will average closer to 45-50 imo Chakdephatte, Lord and Kothili 3 Link to comment
Jamadagni Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, jusarrived said: I get the criticism he gets in T20s, but as a test opener he's done alright. It's extremely difficult to be consistent as a test opener especially for some one who plays all the formats. He could still be averaging around 42-43 , but somehow dosent score big in SC and he's also missed out a lot of home series in the past. Shubman is a good bat, but if he opens his SENA average will be in 20s and on the other hand KL if he bats in the middle order he will average closer to 45-50 imo Gill is a generational talent. Stop comparing nobodies with him. Bigg Brother 1 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Jamadagni said: Gill is a generational talent. Stop comparing nobodies with him. No he's not. I don't think you know the meaning of generational talent. Kothili 1 Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, jusarrived said: I get the criticism he gets in T20s, but as a test opener he's done alright. It's extremely difficult to be consistent as a test opener especially for some one who plays all the formats. He could still be averaging around 42-43 , but somehow dosent score big in SC and he's also missed out a lot of home series in the past. Shubman is a good bat, but if he opens his SENA average will be in 20s and on the other hand KL if he bats in the middle order he will average closer to 45-50 imo Should learn to statpad. Convert his 60-70s into 150s. Kohli is fairly inconsistent throughout his career but always made the most out of his starts. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, jusarrived said: No he's not. I don't think you know the meaning of generational talent. i agree.he has serious technical flaws.he is working on it but he cannot be a test opener or his test career will be short lived.he nneds to play at 4 which is his ideal spot in the lineup. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: i agree.he has serious technical flaws.he is working on it but he cannot be a test opener or his test career will be short lived.he nneds to play at 4 which is his ideal spot in the lineup. We have seen several players coming out of under-19. Gill was considered to be one of the best ever to have come out. Dhawan made headlines with his under-19 performances. Since then we have seen so many Rohit/Kohli/Pujara/Rahul/Agarwal/Sarfarz/Pant/Kishan. Nobody was hyped as much as Gill was. There is something about his game against pace that stood out. Ofcourse we only got to watch his game against pace as it happened in NZ. Then he followed up with great Ranji season.First time had a taste of batting on turning wickets he was found wanting. May be lack of practice as he spent most of the time practicing against pace. He is still a pedigree batsman. But it is entirely upto him how to carve his career. Taking opportunities seriously and making the most of it should be his top priority. cowboysfan 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 hours ago, jusarrived said: I get the criticism he gets in T20s, but as a test opener he's done alright. It's extremely difficult to be consistent as a test opener especially for some one who plays all the formats. He could still be averaging around 42-43 , but somehow dosent score big in SC and he's also missed out a lot of home series in the past. Shubman is a good bat, but if he opens his SENA average will be in 20s and on the other hand KL if he bats in the middle order he will average closer to 45-50 imo As I said he's inconsistent. He never scored 2 tons in a series AFAIK. Even in top form he doesn't dominate. Gill is young and already has Gabba 90. Both will do well in middle order but someone has to open/ Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, Lord said: As I said he's inconsistent. He never scored 2 tons in a series AFAIK. Even in top form he doesn't dominate. Gill is young and already has Gabba 90. Both will do well in middle order but someone has to open/ Inconsistent players like him are more harmful than helpful. Because you can't really bank on them. You never know which match they will click. He earned that inconsistent tag from the very first series he played. Boom or Bust. He broke that cycle for one series. Scored a few fifties. That one series where he scored 393 runs in 4 tests. Scored 6 fifties. Against England in India he averaged 58.25. But 199 came in one innings. 34 came in 3 other innings. Same way against England in England he made 149 in one innings. Then 150 in the remaining 9 innings. This is such a sorry career to be honest. Lord 1 Link to comment
Jamadagni Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 7 hours ago, jusarrived said: No he's not. I don't think you know the meaning of generational talent. I know what I'm saying. He is a superior version of Kohli in every sense. If one is not able to recognize the talent and potential he has, better stop following cricket. Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 17 hours ago, Jamadagni said: Gill is a generational talent. Stop comparing nobodies with him. Was Rahul not seen similarly around 2014? Kothili 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 12 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Inconsistent players like him are more harmful than helpful. Because you can't really bank on them. You never know which match they will click. He earned that inconsistent tag from the very first series he played. Boom or Bust. He broke that cycle for one series. Scored a few fifties. That one series where he scored 393 runs in 4 tests. Scored 6 fifties. Against England in India he averaged 58.25. But 199 came in one innings. 34 came in 3 other innings. Same way against England in England he made 149 in one innings. Then 150 in the remaining 9 innings. This is such a sorry career to be honest. High standard deviation, must be unique for a player. A lot of low scores followed by a high one. Unreliable to a team Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: High standard deviation, must be unique for a player. A lot of low scores followed by a high one. Unreliable to a team Tendulkar had that famous tag as well. Never touched 500 runs in a Test series. But he won't get out to single digits like KL Rahul does in every other Test. He would score a decent amount of runs. KL Rahul is the opposite of Rahul Dravid who was one of the better "two innings specialist" and series specialist. 233 & 72* at Adelaide oval 200* & 70* vs Zimb at Adelaide oval 110 & 135 vs Pakistan 81 & 68 vs Windies on a dreadful pitch Link to comment
Jamadagni Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, rollingstoned said: Was Rahul not seen similarly around 2014? No. Rahul, Rohit, Dhawan etc...players like these come and go, and we tend to hype them. Gill is a few levels above them. I'd be disappointed if he doesn't end up with 70+ centuries by the time he retires. Best batting talent since Tendulkar. Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 19 hours ago, Jamadagni said: No. Rahul, Rohit, Dhawan etc...players like these come and go, and we tend to hype them. Gill is a few levels above them. I'd be disappointed if he doesn't end up with 70+ centuries by the time he retires. Best batting talent since Tendulkar. gill looked better than kohli in tests if we look at first 5 tests of both players. after that, he has fallen off clearly - 2 100s were against either weak-ish team or flat track or both. hardly can be called best bating talent after tendu Link to comment
Vijy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 19 hours ago, Suhaan said: prasad needs to amp up his game. stronger criticism warranted raki05 1 Link to comment
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